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I was just thinking

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Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
Was thinking about my former Catholic friend. We talked about relationships. Then, when I asked her if she would come to my wedding (if I had one). She said that was akin to murder.

I just thought this a contradiction.

Catholics have prison ministries. They help people be with Christ and so forth. They don't promote the crime but they are beyond that and doing gods work.

If she came to my wedding, it would be (to her) just going to a prison. But instead of helping and supporting the prisoners in christ, she turns me down who have not committed murder.

Christians, does that make sense?

If you are against homosexual marriage and have prison ministry, isn't that contradicting the nature of support and bringing people to Christ?
 
IsaiahX

IsaiahX

Ape That Loves
Unveiled Artist said:
Was thinking about my former Catholic friend. We talked about relationships. Then, when I asked her if she would come to my wedding (if I had one). She said that was akin to murder.

I just thought this a contradiction.

Catholics have prison ministries. They help people be with Christ and so forth. They don't promote the crime but they are beyond that and doing gods work.

If she came to my wedding, it would be (to her) just going to a prison. But instead of helping and supporting the prisoners in christ, she turns me down who have not committed murder.

Christians, does that make sense?

If you are against homosexual marriage and have prison ministry, isn't that contradicting the nature of support and bringing people to Christ?
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Going to a celebration of something is different than going to a place where someone is punished for something. A homosexual wedding would be, according to the Catholic, a celebration of the sin, while a prison for sinners would be recovery from sin.

I'm not convinced whether homosexuality is a sin or not, but if it is, there is a difference (in my opinion).
 
Milton Platt

Milton Platt

Well-Known Member
Unveiled Artist said:
Was thinking about my former Catholic friend. We talked about relationships. Then, when I asked her if she would come to my wedding (if I had one). She said that was akin to murder.

I just thought this a contradiction.

Catholics have prison ministries. They help people be with Christ and so forth. They don't promote the crime but they are beyond that and doing gods work.

If she came to my wedding, it would be (to her) just going to a prison. But instead of helping and supporting the prisoners in christ, she turns me down who have not committed murder.

Christians, does that make sense?

If you are against homosexual marriage and have prison ministry, isn't that contradicting the nature of support and bringing people to Christ?
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yet she worships a guy who reqularly ate with thieves and whores.....go figure.
 
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Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
IsaiahX said:
Going to a celebration of something is different than going to a place where someone is punished for something. A homosexual wedding would be, according to the Catholic, a celebration of the sin, while a prison for sinners would be recovery from sin.

I'm not convinced whether homosexuality is a sin or not, but if it is, there is a difference (in my opinion).
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I told her she can sit at the reception. I was thinking if it as supporting me. When you support a prisoner, you're not partaking in their sin. So.... :confused:
 
DustyFeet

DustyFeet

पैर है| outlaw kosher care-bear | Tribe of Dan
never fear
there's always beer
once she's drunk
she'll luv the queers

( no offense to beers or queers )
 
IsaiahX

IsaiahX

Ape That Loves
Unveiled Artist said:
I told her she can sit at the reception. I was thinking if it as supporting me. When you support a prisoner, you're not partaking in their sin. So.... :confused:
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That is a good point. It seems to be mostly subjective, but nonetheless it seemed that this woman acted without justification.
 
U

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
IsaiahX said:
That is a good point. It seems to be mostly subjective, but nonetheless it seemed that this woman acted without justification.
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I guess the justification was assumed. At the time I was Catholic so I guess she thought I understood her views. I told her it was an insult to compare who I love and our marriage as murder. While I understand homosexuality to her is a sin, I'd think she supports the person without defining him by his sin.

As friends, I thought the conversation would be more well rounded compared to RF among strangers.
 
U

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
@IsaiahX I don't know why but I can handle disagreements and contradictions on RF but those same views in person with her and a co-worker, I'm just shocked. I honestly didn't know people think this way...at least insofar to express it to others. My coworker said I would go to hell since I'm not a believer. Then she says quickly, "but you know my belief" as if that excused the insult.
 
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Dawnofhope

Dawnofhope

Non-Proselytizing Baha'i
Staff member
Premium Member
Unveiled Artist said:
Was thinking about my former Catholic friend. We talked about relationships. Then, when I asked her if she would come to my wedding (if I had one). She said that was akin to murder.

I just thought this a contradiction.

Catholics have prison ministries. They help people be with Christ and so forth. They don't promote the crime but they are beyond that and doing gods work.

If she came to my wedding, it would be (to her) just going to a prison. But instead of helping and supporting the prisoners in christ, she turns me down who have not committed murder.

Christians, does that make sense?

If you are against homosexual marriage and have prison ministry, isn't that contradicting the nature of support and bringing people to Christ?
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I'll come to your wedding. :)
 
U

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
Come to think of it I think I asked this before.

A more specific question. Homosexuality is a sin. Murder is a sin. I understand that. Murder is taking a life. homosexuality is two people, regardless if they are straight or not, having same sex relations.

Does taking a life and having sex, as sins, have any relation to each other that god would see them in the same light as abuse and rape?

When you have sex with someone of your gender does it harm another person? Abuse them? Rape them?

I know the foundation is god-said-so; it beyond that. Do you know gods logic behind the two actions, or does it matter that two people who love each other commit murder?

I understand murder akin to child abuse but not sex.

I understand they are both sins, but my questions doesnt refer to that. Just the logic behind the sin in relation to another.

Things like that.
 
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JesusMyFriend

Rosalia
Unveiled Artist said:
Was thinking about my former Catholic friend. We talked about relationships. Then, when I asked her if she would come to my wedding (if I had one). She said that was akin to murder.

I just thought this a contradiction.

Catholics have prison ministries. They help people be with Christ and so forth. They don't promote the crime but they are beyond that and doing gods work.

If she came to my wedding, it would be (to her) just going to a prison. But instead of helping and supporting the prisoners in christ, she turns me down who have not committed murder.

Christians, does that make sense?

If you are against homosexual marriage and have prison ministry, isn't that contradicting the nature of support and bringing people to Christ?
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Yes agree with you. Personally I support homosexual marriage, I support any person or any difference. Yet like you mentioned above there are people whose God (I say whose God because God is a God of love towards everyone) is really a strange being. I have friends like this and honestly how can they call themselves Christians if they turn their backs away to other people? Didn't Jesus teach us to love everyone? (Honestly Jesus would be frightfully disappointed with some people if he came back to life again.)
 
DustyFeet

DustyFeet

पैर है| outlaw kosher care-bear | Tribe of Dan
Unveiled Artist said:
When you have sex with someone of your gender does it harm another person?
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when 2 gay people get married, does it harm anyone? does it harm G-d?

freedom is found when letting go... the truth shall set you free... who can argue? anyone? anywhere?
 
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DustyFeet

DustyFeet

पैर है| outlaw kosher care-bear | Tribe of Dan
adrian009 said:
I'll come to your wedding. :)
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Hi adrian009 :)

would u please share more of the Baha'i perspective on this matter? these dusty feet have very much appreciated your kind and gentle approach in other areas. I expect your words will be very... productive... at least for me.
 
Jollybear

Jollybear

Hey
Unveiled Artist said:
Was thinking about my former Catholic friend. We talked about relationships. Then, when I asked her if she would come to my wedding (if I had one). She said that was akin to murder.

I just thought this a contradiction.

Catholics have prison ministries. They help people be with Christ and so forth. They don't promote the crime but they are beyond that and doing gods work.

If she came to my wedding, it would be (to her) just going to a prison. But instead of helping and supporting the prisoners in christ, she turns me down who have not committed murder.

Christians, does that make sense?

If you are against homosexual marriage and have prison ministry, isn't that contradicting the nature of support and bringing people to Christ?
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I got a question for ya.

If she had gone to the wedding but while there said shes her to support you, not the homosexual marriage, how would you take that?
 
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