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Are we a simulation?

Segev Moran

Well-Known Member
Nice try... but your dismissal didn't do the trick just yet :)
Of course, one can dismiss that. It is very simple, actually. Look.
Looking :)
These beliefs are a mix of religion and new aged
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I have some problem with you saying new age.
What i described is described in much more details and much more accurate when describing our reallity was from a book that was FOUND 1400 years ago.
If you refer to the past 2000 years as new age, we are in an agreement.
built up by no greater education than watching chralatans on youtube
Unfortunately there are many charlatans.
These things (At least in the Jewish documents) are not from youtube rather books and articles that were written by people who lived in a much "low tech" era.
YouTube was a stepping stone in the visual communication for humans, oddly enough also described (not the literal site, rather the ability to see someone all over the world without going anywhere) thousands of years ago.
Charlatans will always exist. that is part of the problem and what makes religion a dangerous tool for people who abuse it.
In order to be able to "clean" the BS, you need to study, understand and see if things comply with your reality.
That is the only way i accept things, i assume you do the same.
and based on the same evidence that leads people to believe in horoscopes,
Can't see the resemblance here.
I do believe that there is some effect to stars on our reality, it will be absurd to think that a 5 sentences paragraph represent ANY portion of truth to 8% of the world.
homeopathy is not even close to the reality test.
You should however not be absurd and really think that medicines cure anything.
Antibiotics for example was thought to be a "miracle worker". it was taught to cure people. it took too many years to understand how bad antibiotics are for curing illness and for the human body in general.
If you'll study recent medical articles, you'll surprisingly discover that the modern "cures" are not really that effective and at times cause more harm then help.
The eastern doctrines cannot be argues. most medical authorities today support alternative method and if you'll watch closely you'll see the trend changes in favor of natural healing and not poison as a cure.
when i take a pill, i think 10 times if i really need it! I advice you to do the same.
Advil doesn't cure whats wrong with your body, it simply suppresses the symptoms! how convenient, yet far from effective!
and that black cats bring bad luck.
I am not even going to respond to that :) this goes in the same category as walking under a ladder :)
They are usually motivated by a bunch of meaningless deepities or just straight ignorance about what modern science really entails.
I agree. many (too many) do. a few don't. they actually much more scientifically educated than me, or you or probably most of the people on earth.
I advise you to verify whose word your listening to when studying such things.
Not to speak of the everlasting hope to extend biological life beyond the obvious irreversible death of our brains.
Unlike science? what do you think science tries to achieve?
In that respect, they can be considered not logical conclusions based on no evidence whatsoever.
Obviously you never red the correct books :)
The illogical thought i used to have was similar to your i assume. how foolish i was :)
If we do not count wishful thinking as evidence.
I don't :) hope your not either ;)
How am I doing in dismissing that? Seems really possible after all :)
You were quite bad actually.. you didn't dismiss anything i talked about. you simply dismissed A because B doesn't sound right ;)
Ciao back at ya ;)
Segev
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Isn't pain just electrical signals interpreted by the brain? Why could they not be simulated?

I don't know. Do you know one cannot?

What video game are you playing? :D

Are there no simulations that exists that have no bugs or glitches? Can a simulation exist without one?

Yes, but in a simulation, you would not be privy to the power source.

Indeed. And as I see it, that makes it possible for our reality to be a creation of an Absolute. :)

You know the funny thing is in regards to pain, that I keep thinking it's just electrical signals from the receptors to the brain and that pain is just an Illusion. While try as hard as I might to convince myself of that, I will never get used to stubbing my toe or nailing my funny bone right square in that 'special spot'.

I still entertain the thought from time to time that the characters in my video games are alive and aware in some capacity because the AI has apparently a sense of sorts to recognize and react.

When I play the ai enemies in Halo for instance , and more recently Red Dead Redemption 2 where they dodge, panic, runaway, retaliate , hide and shoot back with a semblance of self-preservation. When they're hit, they react accordingly and believably. What's interesting is that it's not scripted on rails as other AI, but to a degree have automony. I can see where people might think we are a simulation in that regard for which we are likely programmed in thinking and acting within certain parameters with a limited scope of freedom.

The issue I have with that is, we are comprised entirely of independent organisms each with their own type of automony. It gets to a point where you wonder what kind of "programming" could ever accomplish this, and even more amazing what kind of intelligence could devise something on this type of scale.

I'm not aware of any simulation without bugs or glitches. I suppose you could call the Paranormal or similar phenomena bugs and glitches. Probably the most popular would be the Mandela effect. But then again, with our glitchy and buggy brains.......:0)

While it's true we may not be aware of any type of power if we are encased in a simulation by which we are a simulation as well, we would likely never ever know. But it is interesting that were thinking about these things which would seem counterproductive to our "programme".

Still , we have highly educated people in Academia that are far more familiar with the intricacies of the universe in terms of the nature of matter as a result of years if not decades of study. I follow the experiments and any discovery with great interest for which it seems, according to a good number of physicists and those in related disciplines, that it has been determined that we are not actually in any type of simulation. At least not in our conventional understanding as to what a simulation is. I mean a simulation really isn't a simulation , it's just a facet of reality in my opinion whereas a simulation simply has its own aspect of reality.

Physicists Confirm That We're Not Living In a Computer Simulation
 

DanishCrow

Seeking Feeds
It's an interesting question, for certain.

Perhaps all of our lives and perception is dictated by higher powers, though I would consider such a simulation to be spiritual in nature, and as most pagans, therefore also both biological and scientific. I don't subscribe to a "computer simulation run by higher-singularity beings", no.

At any rate, I don't trouble myself overmuch with the subject if it's true, and I actively detest scoundrels like Elon Musk who pour millions into researching the hypothesis while forcing his janitorial staff to have three jobs in order to feed their kids. One world at a time, no?
 
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