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who can answer to this question

the cycle of live for what

  • because enjoy live

    Votes: 1 14.3%
  • because learning more of life

    Votes: 2 28.6%
  • because we are getting a chance to be a good human

    Votes: 4 57.1%

  • Total voters
    7

the right way

New Member
yes, i have a question, i wish can get an answer to this question

the question is


what is a reason to everyday and everything is getting renewed everyday.

i mean, now every single day, i'm getting hungry, and i'll be an old man, and i'll be a weak man,
and i'll be that like i didn't living all of these years before.

so This circle for what, don't tell me, it's for enjoy in your life, because if it's for enjoy to live, i'm not getting an old, and no getting to a lot of pain in my whole life.

i think there is a deep real reason to this cycle, it's not for enjoy but for thing is a very Surprised to everyone living in the world.

yes this is what i have for the day, i hope i can see your answer about this question

and thank you for watching this thread.

yes, i'm waiting

tree-of-life.jpg
 

WalterTrull

Godfella
Same reason the universe is expanding. Because there are many iterations of a process, does not mean it's a cycle.
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
the question is what is a reason to everyday and everything is getting renewed everyday.
tree-of-life.jpg

What I see missing is the resurrection picture for the dead.
Not speaking about a heavenly resurrection for some, but a physical earthly resurrection.
I find ALL the people Jesus resurrected where resurrected Not to Heaven but here on Earth.
So, Jesus was giving us a small preview, or coming attraction of what he will be doing on a grand-global scale for most people during his 1,000-year reign over Earth when enemy death will be No more on Earth as mentioned at 1 Corinthians 15:26; Isaiah 25:8.

So, death (those pictured tomb stones) is Not the end but that a new beginning that awaits on Resurrection Day, meaning Jesus' millennium-long day of governing over Earth for a thousand years, that is when resurrected mankind will be re-newed with the opportunity to gain 'everlasting life' on a beautiful paradisical Earth as originally offered to Adam before his downfall.

So, in the meantime we can be re-newed 'spiritually' each day.
The inward person can be re-newed and re-freshed daily with the ' spiritual ' food of God's Word.
- 2 Corinthians 4:16-18
 
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Skwim

Veteran Member
First off, welcome to RF. Glad to see you here.

yes, i have a question, i wish can get an answer to this question
the question is
what is a reason to everyday and everything is getting renewed everyday.
How are all things being renewed? I see finality all around me: People die, other animals die, plants die, fertile ground goes arid. etc, etc.
None are being renewed.

so This circle for what, don't tell me, it's for enjoy in your life, because if it's for enjoy to live, i'm not getting an old, and no getting to a lot of pain in my whole life.
i think there is a deep real reason to this cycle, it's not for enjoy but for thing is a very Surprised to everyone living in the world.
Why? Why do you believe there's some ultimate purpose to life?
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
Same reason the universe is expanding. Because there are many iterations of a process, does not mean it's a cycle.

I find the reason the universe is expanding is because God stretches out the heavens (universe) as per Isaiah 40:22.
Jeremiah also tells us God stretches out the heavens at Jeremiah 10:12, so to me that is why the universe is expanding.
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
First off, welcome to RF. Glad to see you here.
How are all things being renewed? I see finality all around me: People die, other animals die, plants die, fertile ground goes arid. etc, etc.
None are being renewed.
Why? Why do you believe there's some ultimate purpose to life?

Through physical eyes we see finality all around, but looking with spiritual eyes I find we can see eternity.
As 2 Corinthians 4:16-18 informs us we can be re-newed inwardly/within by taking in spiritual food from God's Word.
Even 'enemy death' can Not be the victor as per 1 Corinthians 15:55-57.
 

allfoak

Alchemist
yes, i have a question, i wish can get an answer to this question

the question is


what is a reason to everyday and everything is getting renewed everyday.

i mean, now every single day, i'm getting hungry, and i'll be an old man, and i'll be a weak man,
and i'll be that like i didn't living all of these years before.

so This circle for what, don't tell me, it's for enjoy in your life, because if it's for enjoy to live, i'm not getting an old, and no getting to a lot of pain in my whole life.

i think there is a deep real reason to this cycle, it's not for enjoy but for thing is a very Surprised to everyone living in the world.

yes this is what i have for the day, i hope i can see your answer about this question

and thank you for watching this thread.

yes, i'm waiting

tree-of-life.jpg
The purpose of life for most is to just live it.
Not having an answer to this question is common, which leads one to think that maybe there is no purpose at all but to live life the best we can.
It is hardly a satisfactory answer to a deep thinking person.
If one considers the question long enough certain conclusions can be reached.
The first is that we can only really know our own self.
The next would be that we should get to know this self and not waste anytime on anything else.
What follows as a result of getting to know ones self is that we begin to learn what makes us happy.
Acting on this knowledge makes for a happy and purposeful life.
Of course it goes much deeper than that but it's all that I have to say for the moment.
 
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URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
The purpose of life for most is to just live it.
Not having an answer to this question is common, which leads one to think that maybe there is no purpose at all but to live life the best we can.
It is hardly a satisfactory answer to a deep thinking person.
If one considers the question long enough certain conclusions can be reached.
The first is that we can only really know our own self.
The next would be that we should get to know this self and not waste anytime on anything else.
What follows as a result of getting to know ones self is that we begin to learn what makes us happy.
Acting on this knowledge makes for a happy and purposeful life.
Of course it goes much deeper than that but it's all that I have to say for the moment.
I find people with or without faith can find meaning and purpose in life.
However, without belief in the Resurrection then one lives without Hope.
 
Here is the very simple truth of our existence in the words of St. Augustine:

“Thou hast made us for Thyself, O Lord, and our hearts are restless until they rest in Thee.”

We were created to love, more specifically, to LOVE God above all things and to love others for His sake (that is, always desiring their temporal and eternal welfare). God created each one of us in order that we may know Him by the light of the Catholic faith, that we may love Him as the Source of all our good, and in order that we may do all according to His Will in this life by our thoughts, words, and deeds, so we may be at peace in this life and happy forever in the life to come. To love God and to be loved by Him- that is the reason why we were created by the good God.
 

A Vestigial Mote

Well-Known Member
All creatures are forced into the position known as "life." None get to make a choice beforehand. Once you are here, you do what you need to do. Or, at least, that's the way the process is geared. You can certainly make the choice not to participate anymore, but that goes against the grain of the great striving toward something "greater" that all life has been in since its inception. Here we all are - the culmination of millions of years of transformative processes. Life has no objective meaning on offer, per se. The striving began, and "you" have been granted the chance to participate. That's really all there is.
 

WalterTrull

Godfella
All creatures are forced into the position known as "life." None get to make a choice beforehand. Once you are here, you do what you need to do. Or, at least, that's the way the process is geared. You can certainly make the choice not to participate anymore, but that goes against the grain of the great striving toward something "greater" that all life has been in since its inception. Here we all are - the culmination of millions of years of transformative processes. Life has no objective meaning on offer, per se. The striving began, and "you" have been granted the chance to participate. That's really all there is.
Soo... not a clue either.
 

Epic Beard Man

Bearded Philosopher
I find the reason the universe is expanding is because God stretches out the heavens (universe) as per Isaiah 40:22.
Jeremiah also tells us God stretches out the heavens at Jeremiah 10:12, so to me that is why the universe is expanding.

Surah 51:47

"We have built the heaven with might, and We it is Who make the vast extent (thereof)."

"With power and skill did We construct the Firmament: for it is We Who create the vastness of pace."

-Yusuf Ali (Translation)
 

tayla

My dog's name is Tayla
what is a reason to everyday and everything is getting renewed everyday.
The purpose of living is to experience the living of life, the being itself. Best enjoy what you can and minimize the suffering. In my view, God is goodness and beauty, so every time we experience something good (or just, fair, kind, etc) or beautiful (with all our senses) we are communing with God merging in his/her divine nature.
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
Not if one believes in the immortality of the soul, then they live in hope of reunion with God.

However I find, an immortal soul is Not a biblical teaching.
Please notice Genesis 2:7 because Adam did Not become a living soul, a living person, until after his God breathed the breath of life into life-less Adam. At death Adam became a dead soul or a dead person.
Ezekiel 18:4,20 says the soul that sins dies. Adam sinned, Adam died.
Adam ' returned ' (Not to God) but Adam returned to the dust of the ground as per Genesis 3:19.
There was No post-mortem blessing or punishment for Adam but just going back to non-life.
So, Adam went from non-life, to life, and 'returned' back to non-life.
A person can Not ' return' to a place he never was before. Adam simply went back returning to the dust.
Also, if soul immortality was biblical then there would be No need for a resurrection.
Resurrection is for the dead and Not the immortal.
 

danieldemol

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
However I find, an immortal soul is Not a biblical teaching.
Please notice Genesis 2:7 because Adam did Not become a living soul, a living person, until after his God breathed the breath of life into life-less Adam. At death Adam became a dead soul or a dead person.
Ezekiel 18:4,20 says the soul that sins dies. Adam sinned, Adam died.
Adam ' returned ' (Not to God) but Adam returned to the dust of the ground as per Genesis 3:19.
There was No post-mortem blessing or punishment for Adam but just going back to non-life.
So, Adam went from non-life, to life, and 'returned' back to non-life.
A person can Not ' return' to a place he never was before. Adam simply went back returning to the dust.
Also, if soul immortality was biblical then there would be No need for a resurrection.
Resurrection is for the dead and Not the immortal.
The physical body of Adam returned to the dust, his soul returned to God. The need for resurrection is for "dead" living souls which sounds like a contradiction at first, but as per your hypothesis, a person with a dead soul cannot have a living body, yet Jesus said of the physically alive pharisees, "Let the dead bury their dead"Matt 8:22 Luke 9:60 meaning let those souls who are in a spiritually death like state, bury the physically dead.
Jesus was the first to rise from the dead according to Acts 26:23 It was the first awakening of Christ from spiritual slumber that allowed Him to guide others to become awakened or resurrected from spiritual slumber. Thus we find in the Bible that spiritual death is not absolute death, but rather a spirtually negative state to be in from which we must awaken or be raised.
Consider the following verse from John 3:16 "that whoever believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life" if this were a reference to the physical body of man then it is evident this verse is a lie, for the physical bodies of all men perish. It is only when read as a reference to the believing soul that this makes sense, for according to this verse of the Bible it is the believing soul that does not perish, but has life eternal.
 
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Trailblazer

Veteran Member
yes, i have a question, i wish can get an answer to this question
the question is

what is a reason to everyday and everything is getting renewed everyday.

i mean, now every single day, i'm getting hungry, and i'll be an old man, and i'll be a weak man,
and i'll be that like i didn't living all of these years before.

so This circle for what, don't tell me, it's for enjoy in your life, because if it's for enjoy to live, i'm not getting an old, and no getting to a lot of pain in my whole life.

i think there is a deep real reason to this cycle, it's not for enjoy but for thing is a very Surprised to everyone living in the world.

yes this is what i have for the day, i hope i can see your answer about this question

and thank you for watching this thread.

yes, i'm waiting

tree-of-life.jpg
I do not believe that the purpose of life is to enjoy life. That does not mean we cannot enjoy life, only that is not why God put us here on earth. In short, the purpose of life is to acquire the spiritual qualities we will need in the afterlife, since this life is very temporary and fleeting. It is important what we do in this life because we are here for a purpose so if we do not accomplish that purpose our life will be for naught and we will not be prepared for the afterlife. Loving God and others and service to others, sacrificing our own desires; that is what helps us acquire spiritual qualities, which simply means good character. Think of someone who has a bad character, a selfish immoral person, and then you will know how important it is to have a good character. Nothing is more important than character, nothing.

“The third Taráz concerneth good character. A good character is, verily, the best mantle for men from God. With it He adorneth the temples of His loved ones. By My life! The light of a good character surpasseth the light of the sun and the radiance thereof. Whoso attaineth unto it is accounted as a jewel among men. The glory and the upliftment of the world must needs depend upon it. A goodly character is a means whereby men are guided to the Straight Path and are led to the Great Announcement. Well is it with him who is adorned with the saintly attributes and character of the Concourse on High.”
Tablets of Bahá’u’lláh, p. 36
 
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