Huge gap between humans and animals

illykitty · Oct 19, 2018

You're making somewhat weird comparisons. There are things that animals are better than humans at. For instance, birds can feel magnetic poles, while we can't. Are we a midway between birds and animals that can't sense magnetic poles? What about bats and their sonar? Humans can't do that either. What's the midway then? I'm not asking these questions, I'm pointing out the faulty logic.

Evolution means adaptation to the environment that the species lives in, and for some reason we ended up having to use our brains, cooperation, tools and being able to walk and run standing up. Other animals didn't need to make these adaptations. Instead they had different ones. Plus we weren't the only kind of humanoids, there were others, but they didn't survive, or some mixed with us, but we only have a small amount of their DNA, not much.

Also, many animals do display pretty high levels of intelligence, dolphins, apes/chimps, certain birds and pigs, for example. They can use tools, have complex social structures and/or have brains that are developed enough to solve puzzles. Pigs are known to have around the same intelligence as a young child, they can solve colour/shape puzzles meant for 3-4 year olds.

Subduction Zone · Oct 19, 2018

FearGod said:
Still fish regardless of their sizes, but humans are unique.

If you call a Blue Whale a fish then by the same logic so are people.

Subduction Zone · Oct 19, 2018

FearGod said:
Do you believe that size is unique compared to the way of life for humans,
which animal on earth made a bathroom? which animal on earth write
and read, why no other animal but humans that have such different way of life?

This is called a special pleading fallacy.

FearGod · Oct 19, 2018

ADigitalArtist said:
Why are no animals but blue whales of such large size? Extremely large. Far and away the biggest animal to ever live by huge metrics more than even dinosaurs. It doesn't matter how much further to the extreme blue whale size is, or animal intelligence is, the process that resulted in it is the same.

Comparing sizes is meaningless, ants are very tiny and the blue whale is extremely large,
different size that all species have, some are tiny and others are bigger, but humans
are unique in their way of life in this planet.

Subduction Zone · Oct 19, 2018

FearGod said:
Comparing sizes is meaningless, ants are very tiny and the blue whale is extremely large,
different size that all species have, some are tiny and others are bigger, but humans
are unique in their way of life in this planet.

all species are unique.

George-ananda · Oct 19, 2018

ADigitalArtist said:
It should be hahad. Most foolish conspiracy theories are easy to leave in the garbage bin, but ancient aliens has always been purveyed by especially racist 'they were just too savage to figure that out' drek. No anthropologist worth their salt will take that crap.

Here I was just discussing the DNA enhancement of humans as it relates to the OP question of human separation from the rest of the animal kingdom. I am aware of the mainstream opposition to anything revolutionary in human history. I have come to believe in the DNA augmentation only in recent years myself by sources I believe that can tell us of our past in non-conventional ways.

In general, when it comes to things paranormal and alien I am convinced this universe is something vastly beyond our current mainstream science.

FearGod · Oct 19, 2018

illykitty said:
You're making somewhat weird comparisons. There are things that animals are better than humans at. For instance, birds can feel magnetic poles, while we can't. Are we a midway between birds and animals that can't sense magnetic poles? What about bats and their sonar? Humans can't do that either. What's the midway then? I'm not asking these questions, I'm pointing out the faulty logic.

Evolution means adaptation to the environment that the species lives in, and for some reason we ended up having to use our brains, cooperation, tools and being able to walk and run standing up. Other animals didn't need to make these adaptations. Instead they had different ones. Plus we weren't the only kind of humanoids, there were others, but they didn't survive, or some mixed with us, but we only have a small amount of their DNA, not much.

Also, many animals do display pretty high levels of intelligence, dolphins, apes/chimps, certain birds and pigs, for example. They can use tools, have complex social structures and/or have brains that are developed enough to solve puzzles. Pigs are known to have around the same intelligence as a young child, they can solve colour/shape puzzles meant for 3-4 year olds.

Sorry, but your examples are silly compared to the reality that humans are unique
creatures in this planet.

Cacotopia · Oct 19, 2018

Are you trying to say that animals don't speak to other animals? I think you wrong on that one. Big time.

Subduction Zone · Oct 19, 2018

FearGod said:
Sorry, but your examples are silly compared to the reality that humans are unique
creatures in this planet.

It only seems that way to you since you are human and are looking at this with human bias.

shunyadragon · Oct 19, 2018

FearGod said:
Why only humans are different than the rest of animals in terms of thinking, talking
and the way of living, no animal can be compared to humans?

Why we can't even see animals in midway between humans and animals in
terms of thinking, talking and the ability to invent ..etc?

How that is explained by science, we can see different kinds of animals horses, donkeys, dogs,
different kind of birds, but why humans are unique?

Humans are essentially animals and the difference between humans and animals is a matter of degree,

By the way whales species are known to have different languages between pods (herds?).

Cacotopia · Oct 19, 2018

FearGod said:
Comparing sizes is meaningless, ants are very tiny and the blue whale is extremely large,
different size that all species have, some are tiny and others are bigger, but humans
are unique in their way of life in this planet.

Can you lift an object 100x heavier than your own weight? An ant can.... can you withstand pressure 1000x heavier than your own body mass? I don't think so but an ant can.

Does the rest of the animal kingdom discriminate against homosexuality? Nope, but humans do...Do animals self mutilate themselves and others for a belief or idea? no, but humans do. Yeah we are unique, but I think in pretty terrible ways. But all animals have a uniqueness to them. That's why we are all classified into species. Take a class on Linneaen Classification.

FearGod · Oct 19, 2018

Subduction Zone said:
all species are unique.

In which way?, is the donkey unique compared to other animals, for example
comparing the donkey with the horse? then comparing humans with the chimpanzee.

FearGod · Oct 19, 2018

Cacotopia said:
Can you lift an object 100x heavier than your own weight? An ant can.... can you withstand pressure 1000x heavier than your own body mass? I don't think so but an ant can.

Does the rest of the animal kingdom discriminate against homosexuality? Nope, but humans do...Do animals self mutilate themselves and others for a belief or idea? no, but humans do. Yeah we are unique, but I think in pretty terrible ways. But all animals have a uniqueness to them. That's why we are all classified into species. Take a class on Linneaen Classification.

We make machines that carry tons and even moving tons of weights in high speed.
I wonder that some is making silly examples of how unique some animals are
compared to humans.

Audie · Oct 19, 2018

FearGod said:
Huge fish or small fish, humans are one specific kind, got it.

You came in with an "answer", not a question.

And

A whale is no more a fish than you are.

Audie · Oct 19, 2018

ADigitalArtist said:
Humans are a kind of specialists. But I do not think we are any more universally unique for our intelligence than the blue whale is for its size.

Au contraire, humans are great generalists

ADigitalArtist · Oct 19, 2018

FearGod said:
Comparing sizes is meaningless, ants are very tiny and the blue whale is extremely large,
different size that all species have, some are tiny and others are bigger, but humans
are unique in their way of life in this planet.

It isn't meaningless if we are talking about uniqueness. Blue whale size is unique. that doesn't mean it's significant. Human intelligence is unique. that doesn't mean it's significant.

nPeace · Oct 19, 2018

FearGod said:
Why only humans are different than the rest of animals in terms of thinking, talking
and the way of living, no animal can be compared to humans?

Why we can't even see animals in midway between humans and animals in
terms of thinking, talking and the ability to invent ..etc?

How that is explained by science, we can see different kinds of animals horses, donkeys, dogs,
different kind of birds, but why humans are unique?

This is a great question.
I was thinking of this only recently.
If you were to gather a hundred crows, or pigeons, or lions, or crocodiles, etc. all the same sex, and line then up, or pack them in a stadium, or field, you would not be able to tell the difference one apart from the other.

On the other hand, if you pack thousands of people in a stadium, it quickly becomes evident that humans have different unique features and characteristics, one from another.

QuestioningMind · Oct 19, 2018

FearGod said:
Why only humans are different than the rest of animals in terms of thinking, talking
and the way of living, no animal can be compared to humans?

Why we can't even see animals in midway between humans and animals in
terms of thinking, talking and the ability to invent ..etc?

How that is explained by science, we can see different kinds of animals horses, donkeys, dogs,
different kind of birds, but why humans are unique?

It could be argued that every animal species is unique is some way. Humans aren't the only animals that communicate... they simply communicate in different ways than humans do. Of course, there are other primates that have learned to communicate with humans using sign language. It could certainly be argued that some of these primates as well as perhaps dolphins ARE animals that are midway between humans and other animals. In fact, it's possible that dolphins might even be more intelligent than humans, since humans really have no way of comprehending dolphin intelligence. What IS unique about humans has been our ability to invent and create. That particular advantage appears to be due to our opposible thumbs which enable us to manipulate other objects with far greater efficiency than any other animal.

QuestioningMind · Oct 19, 2018

FearGod said:
Still fish regardless of their sizes, but humans are unique.

Of course, blue whales aren't fish, they are mammals.

ADigitalArtist · Oct 19, 2018

George-ananda said:
Here I was just discussing the DNA enhancement of humans as it relates to the OP question of human separation from the rest of the animal kingdom. I am aware of the mainstream opposition to anything revolutionary in human history. I have come to believe in the DNA augmentation only in recent years myself by sources I believe that can tell us of our past in non-conventional ways.

In general, when it comes to things paranormal and alien I am convinced this universe is something vastly beyond our current mainstream science.

Human DNA isnt revolutionary in the sense that it is all that remarkable for a chromosomal line to merge and produce new traits from a new arrangement. People who want to feel more cosmically significant try to do so at the antithesis of any science, mainstream or otherwise.

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