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United Nations is a joke

Altfish

Veteran Member
Tax reform, deregulation, doing away with unfair trade deals, ....resulting in record number of jobs and increases in wealth and economic growth. And on foreign policy... getting back hostages without paying ransom.

The Trump administration has done more in less than 2 years than what Obama, Bush, Clinton did in 8 years. Maybe Reagan was better ...but that's debatable.
You forgot the record level of debt, on which all this prosperity is based on.
Obama was bringing that down and still growing your economy.
 

Kangaroo Feathers

Yea, it is written in the Book of Cyril...
Did you see the way the UN general assembly had disrespected President Donald Trump after he was speaking? They laughed at him, and thought our President was a joke, when in fact, the UN is a total disaster.
When Trump starts respecting foreign leaders (other than dictators, I mean) maybe he can start expecting respect
 

Kangaroo Feathers

Yea, it is written in the Book of Cyril...
Tax reform, deregulation, doing away with unfair trade deals, ....resulting in record number of jobs and increases in wealth and economic growth. And on foreign policy... getting back hostages without paying ransom.

The Trump administration has done more in less than 2 years than what Obama, Bush, Clinton did in 8 years. Maybe Reagan was better ...but that's debatable.
And you have objective, non partisan evidence of these claims and that Trump is responsible, do you?
 

Woberts

The Perfumed Seneschal
Tax reform, deregulation, doing away with unfair trade deals, ....resulting in record number of jobs and increases in wealth and economic growth. And on foreign policy... getting back hostages without paying ransom.

The Trump administration has done more in less than 2 years than what Obama, Bush, Clinton did in 8 years. Maybe Reagan was better ...but that's debatable.
Record number of jobs?
His tariffs are causing more jobs to be lost than they generate.
He ripped the EPA apart.
He leaked Israeli intelligence to Russia.
Oh, and he's a dick.
 

Altfish

Veteran Member
Sooo.....how much has the globe warmed in, let's say, the last 100 years? Last 50? Last 20? Any takers?
The Earth’s average surface temperature over the past century has risen about 1.5 F; the trend is continuing to be upward.
The sea level has risen about 0.06" per year since 1880. BUT since 1993 it is rising at twice that rate.
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
The UN were created at a saner time. Its current bizarry is a reflection of that of its members. The USA definitely included.
 

BSM1

What? Me worry?
The Earth’s average surface temperature over the past century has risen about 1.5 F; the trend is continuing to be upward.
The sea level has risen about 0.06" per year since 1880. BUT since 1993 it is rising at twice that rate.

1.5 F (which is questionable) is not going to boil away the water any time soon. Relax, we'll find a real reason for a war.
 

Altfish

Veteran Member
1.5 F (which is questionable) is not going to boil away the water any time soon. Relax, we'll find a real reason for a war.
I expected the ignorant "That's not much" reply which was why I posted the sea level rises too. (which you chose to ignore)
The sea is rising because of global warming - I assume you'd connected the dots.
Places like The Florida Quays, The Maldives, Seychelles, Hawaii and other places with low lying land are already suffering and people are starting to leave as their homes are inundated. So 1.5F may not sound a lot but it is having significant affects on some places.

You can bury your head in the sand, put your fingers in your ears BUT it is happening.
 
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shunyadragon

shunyadragon
Premium Member
1.5 F (which is questionable) is not going to boil away the water any time soon. Relax, we'll find a real reason for a war.

Actually the water is an important issue for the future. The global warming trend has cause increased arid conditions around the globe on the borders of the arid dessert zones where the majority of the worlds cropland is located. Global food issues follow global water issues.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
Did you see the way the UN general assembly had disrespected President Donald Trump after he was speaking? They laughed at him, and thought our President was a joke, when in fact, the UN is a total disaster.

The Donald is the laughing stock of the world and he's taking America with him
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
Sooo.....how much has the globe warmed in, let's say, the last 100 years? Last 50? Last 20? Any takers?

According to a continuous study conducted by the NASA’s Goddard institute, the Earth’s average global temperature has risen by 0.8 degrees Celsius or 1.4 degrees Fahrenheit since 1880. Since the beginning of the Industrial Revolution, the thermometer readings have risen continuously.
http://www.theworldcounts.com/stories/Temperature-Change-Over-the-Last-100-Years
 

Kangaroo Feathers

Yea, it is written in the Book of Cyril...
1.5 F (which is questionable) is not going to boil away the water any time soon. Relax, we'll find a real reason for a war.
Yep, if you average out the temperature rise globally you can ignore the local effects. If one country becomes a desert, that's evened out by some other country becomming a swamp. Problem solved!
 

Salvador

RF's Swedenborgian
You forgot the record level of debt, on which all this prosperity is based on.
Obama was bringing that down and still growing your economy.

Economic growth under Obama was less than half the rate it is now under Trump, and Obama had cheap interest free money to spend.
 

Shad

Veteran Member
The fact that North Korea is a member of the United Nations is bizzare.

Most of the nations in the UN would be removed if held to the standards the UN proclaims. Every OIC nation due to the refusal to sign the UN declaration of Human Rights for example. US for it's actions and wars post WW2. China and Russia are obvious as well.
 

Altfish

Veteran Member
Economic growth under Obama was less than half the rate it is now under Trump, and Obama had cheap interest free money to spend.
Get out of the bubble my friend. There is truth beyond Fox.
Anyone can boost an economy by hugely increasing debt; try bring debt down and still increase the economy - Obama did that. Trump hasn't even tried, despite promising to reduce debt.,
 

Salvador

RF's Swedenborgian
Get out of the bubble my friend. There is truth beyond Fox.
Anyone can boost an economy by hugely increasing debt; try bring debt down and still increase the economy - Obama did that. Trump hasn't even tried, despite promising to reduce debt.,

Deregulation and fair trade , record level of jobs...4 percent GDP growth under Trump...$ 1 trillion annual debt in last spending year during Bush era and early years of Obama...GOP needs 60 vote filibuster proof majority in Senate to bring federal spending under control....Not gonna happen this election year, but hopefully in 2020.
 

Altfish

Veteran Member
Deregulation and fair trade , record level of jobs...4 percent GDP growth under Trump...$ 1 trillion annual debt in last spending year during Bush era and early years of Obama...GOP needs 60 vote filibuster proof majority in Senate to bring federal spending under control....Not gonna happen this election year, but hopefully in 2020.
Let's be honest ...
GOP spends time increasing debt
DEMs spend their years trying to reduce or control it.

GDP is important but only as a part of a raft of measurements.
The biggest threat at the moment is a collapse of the Chinese economy, that will have catastrophic consequences worldwide. Trump is trying to bring that about.
 

Salvador

RF's Swedenborgian
Let's be honest ...
GOP spends time increasing debt
DEMs spend their years trying to reduce or control it.

GDP is important but only as a part of a raft of measurements.
The biggest threat at the moment is a collapse of the Chinese economy, that will have catastrophic consequences worldwide. Trump is trying to bring that about.

The GOP controlled house has a budget blueprint that would result in a balance budget by 2028,

Reference: Introducing Budget for a Brighter American Future

Unfortunately, the Senate failed to produce a spending plan towards balancing the budget, because a 60 vote filibuster proof majority in the Senate is needed to get anything done.


China will do just fine if they agree to follow fair trade practices and stop stealing intellectual property from America.
 
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Altfish

Veteran Member
The GOP controlled house has a budget blueprint that would result in a balance budget by 2028,

Reference: Introducing Budget for a Brighter American Future

Unfortunately, the Senate failed to produce a spending plan towards balancing the budget, because a 60 vote filibuster proof majority in the Senate is needed to get anything done.


China will do just fine if they agree to follow fair trade practices and stop stealing intellectual property from America.
Putting budgets 10-years in advance is a fail safe because the chances of you being in charge in 10-years time are not good.
Filibustering is a US Hobby the GOP were experts at it under Obama, they should expect the same from the DEMs when the GOP are in charge.
 
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