Can God see into the future?

For anybody having doubts about the existence of God:

“And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared.” [Revelation 16:12]

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Keep in mind, the bible was written 2000+ years ago.

PopeADope said:

A Bible believer here argued with me that God does not see into the future.

I mentioned how often prophecy had to deal with future events including some reign of an antichrist.

I feel there is plenty of biblical evidence that God can see into the future, if indeed the Bible is true.

What scripture verses do you have for believing one way or the other?

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Modern-day Physics is based on the premise that we can see the future and the past.

ChristineM said:

Doesn't it? You offer no evidence to show god is anything but a figment of the imagination.

As for Akhenaten, all religions start somewhere, nothing surprising there.

Measurement by mri is somewhat more refined than a hemesphemi

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But Akhenaten didn't start a religion, he basically ran his empire with the belief in one god named RA. The position I hold is that the fMRI (not MRI as incorrectly stated) only shows activity but belief is not allocated to the firings of the brain hemispheres. There is experience. I've experienced it and many others not under the influence of drugs or hysteria, but actual experience that is immeasurable.

You're speaking to someone who was a graduate student that had to do research using fMRI so I'm quite familiar with regions of the brain that are active when someone is emotional. There are things in this universe that cannot be measured and that is the point. you cannot discount the feelings someone has had because you lack faith in it.

PopeADope said:

A Bible believer here argued with me that God does not see into the future.

I mentioned how often prophecy had to deal with future events including some reign of an antichrist.

I feel there is plenty of biblical evidence that God can see into the future, if indeed the Bible is true.

What scripture verses do you have for believing one way or the other?

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Predestination is a Jewish belief adapted by both the Pharisees and Essenes, especially Essenes.

Predestination (disregarding how it can be defined), means God not only has the ability to foresee the future, He also has the ability to lay a fate (again, whatever it can be) ahead of us.

Hawkins said:

Predestination is a Jewish belief adapted by both the Pharisees and Essenes, especially Essenes.

Predestination (disregarding how it can be defined), means God not only has the ability to foresee the future, He also has the ability to lay a fate (again, whatever it can be) ahead of us.

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“7 Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called.
8 That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.
9 For this is the word of promise, At this time will I come, and Sarah shall have a son.
10 And not only this; but when Rebecca also had conceived by one, even by our father Isaac;
11 (For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth)
12 It was said unto her, The elder shall serve the younger.
13 As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.
14 What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness with God? God forbid.” [Romans 9:7-14]

Epic Beard Man said:

But Akhenaten didn't start a religion, he basically ran his empire with the belief in one god named RA. The position I hold is that the fMRI (not MRI as incorrectly stated) only shows activity but belief is not allocated to the firings of the brain hemispheres. There is experience. I've experienced it and many others not under the influence of drugs or hysteria, but actual experience that is immeasurable.

You're speaking to someone who was a graduate student that had to do research using fMRI so I'm quite familiar with regions of the brain that are active when someone is emotional. There are things in this universe that cannot be measured and that is the point. you cannot discount the feelings someone has had because you lack faith in it.

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It is considered that Akhenaten pioneered monotheistic religion.

So you were having a mri (or fmri) when you had this immeasurable experience?

If a whole hemisphere were active that would be one very unique subject.

Feelings are not evidence, i can have feelings, so can just about anyone else. Without evidence they are simply emotions.

The future is written in the past.

Epic Beard Man said:

The point is, in one version the clock maker may not know when the battery will run out although the clock maker knows the capability of the clock.

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It's also not hard to study batteries and determine how long they last. They even make it so you can see it too, when you see that little icon on your phone or whatever and it tells you how much power you have left.

Epic Beard Man said:

Does a husband have responsibility to his wife's ring when he gives it to her as a gift?

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Does he still owe money on it?

If he's paying in installments and he stops paying, they aren't coming after the person who received it, but the person who bought it.

Epic Beard Man said:

Akhenaten probably the oldest known character to worship one God retreated in solitude to dedicate his life to worshipping the Sun God RA. Why out of his entire family history of worshipping a pantheon of God’s why would this individual defy his family spiritual beliefs for monotheism?

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The key is how religious facilities work. With polytheism, you have competing depositories of funding. With monotheism, it's the same bank account.

Also, Ra isn't Atun, the God he worshiped.

Epic Beard Man said:

He obviously had a spiritual experience that he himself felt real.

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Or he wanted to monopolize religious authority. Given the politics of religion, I can no longer view monotheism as anything other than a cash grab.

We see this in the bible as well. If others put up their own altars or whatever, they were persecuted up to and including death. Clearly, Jerusalem wanted all the tithes going to them. King Josiah makes it a point to create a national origin story that promotes one God, even though historically people worshiped many. This is done to ensure a lack of competition for food and money and other riches.

PopeADope said:

A Bible believer here argued with me that God does not see into the future.

I mentioned how often prophecy had to deal with future events including some reign of an antichrist.

I feel there is plenty of biblical evidence that God can see into the future, if indeed the Bible is true.

What scripture verses do you have for believing one way or the other?

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God knows what his will, will accomplish in the future. As well can see from mortal lack of intelligence, that satan has mislead about 99% all throughout. And in these last days would be worse than ever-2Timothy 3.

PopeADope said:

A Bible believer here argued with me that God does not see into the future.

I mentioned how often prophecy had to deal with future events including some reign of an antichrist.

I feel there is plenty of biblical evidence that God can see into the future, if indeed the Bible is true.

What scripture verses do you have for believing one way or the other?

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I like this one because it was fulfilled within the lifetime of the Apostles. Mat. 24: Jesus left the temple and was going away, when his disciples came to point out to him the buildings of the temple. 2 But he answered them, “You see all these, do you not? Truly, I say to you, there will not be left here one stone upon another that will not be thrown down.

God told me that He exists throughout time and all time exists.

InChrist said:

God is in the eternal realm outside of time. He sees past, present, and future all at once.

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I believe that is true but he also exists in time as well even if one were only to limit that to His sojourn as Jesus.

Salvador said:

If your god can travel between different slices of time, then why doesn't he change the past for the betterment of the future?

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I believe some people's idea of better is not everyone's idea of better.

PopeADope said:

A Bible believer here argued with me that God does not see into the future.

I mentioned how often prophecy had to deal with future events including some reign of an antichrist.

I feel there is plenty of biblical evidence that God can see into the future, if indeed the Bible is true.

What scripture verses do you have for believing one way or the other?

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As far as I believe, He can. He is not very clear on what he sees. At least in relating it to us. I'm not sure Revelation is a prophecy, despite what so many think. I'm not even certain why it was included as part of the Bible when that book was finally collated into its present form.

According to my belief, God is omniscient, so seeing into the future would be no problem. Though, I'm more of deist than a believer in an omnipresent God, though I see no reason God couldn't fill that role either.

PopeADope said:

A Bible believer here argued with me that God does not see into the future.

I mentioned how often prophecy had to deal with future events including some reign of an antichrist.

I feel there is plenty of biblical evidence that God can see into the future, if indeed the Bible is true.

What scripture verses do you have for believing one way or the other?

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Just because bible Prophecy deals with the future does not mean God sees into the future.
Let's look at this, If God can see into the future, Than why would God Need to see into the future to see what is happening to give his Prophecy about the future.

God would already know, without having to see into the future to give his Prophecy about the future.

Let's for say, that you saw into the future knowing the bridge is definitely out, Why would you need to drive over the bridge to find it's out, knowing beforehand that the bridge is out ?
That means you didn't see into the future, otherwise there would be no use in you to drive over the bridge to find out it's definitely out.

So why would God need to see into the future to see what is happening,
Seeing God would already know without having to see into the future.

God gives Prophecy, then God guide's his Prophecy down thru the ages to see his Prophecy's are fulfilled.

Ok, let's for say on the other hand, that God can see into the future what is happening to give his Prophecy about what is happening in the future.

If God is in control of all things whether it be on Earth or in heaven.
How does this work ?
If God controls all things, but yet God can see into the future, Then why doesn't God change the course of things to make the future better.

In knowing God, If God can see into the future and God doesn't do anything to change the course of things, to make what is to happen in the future, doesn't happen.
That means that God can not see into the future. Otherwise God would change the course of things to see it doesn't happen in the future.

Only that God gives Prophecy and then guides his Prophecy down thru the ages to see his Prophecy's are fulfilled in the future.