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Zeus or God

Do you think that Zeus and Hercules are the true God and Jesus since that story is older

  • Yes

    Votes: 1 12.5%
  • No

    Votes: 7 87.5%

  • Total voters
    8
  • Poll closed .

MissLisaM

New Member
Another question.. is Zeus God and Hercules Jesus? I mean the stories are very similar.. except in Zeus days they had lesser Gods like Athena Goddess of war and Aphrodite Goddess of love while in the God version they have only men and they are called Arch Angels..

I mean Zeus was first and his story was the original story.. the God story is a copy of the Zeus story.. so is Zeus God? And if he is God where did all the lesser Gods go? And why don't we mention his first son Hercules? I mean he fought bravely.. shouldnt we honor that son too? Or did someone just steal the story and re-write it?
 

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
Another question.. is Zeus God and Hercules Jesus? I mean the stories are very similar.. except in Zeus days they had lesser Gods like Athena Goddess of war and Aphrodite Goddess of love while in the God version they have only men and they are called Arch Angels..

I mean Zeus was first and his story was the original story.. the God story is a copy of the Zeus story.. so is Zeus God? And if he is God where did all the lesser Gods go? And why don't we mention his first son Hercules? I mean he fought bravely.. shouldnt we honor that son too? Or did someone just steal the story and re-write it?
I think the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob predated Zeus as it is Greek in nature.
 

Brickjectivity

wind and rain touch not this brain
Staff member
Premium Member
The OP is comparing the characters in the Ten Commandments and Clash of the Titans. Religion is about how you live not about the cosmic stories. Followers of Zeus believe that wars and conflicts are caused by opposing and sneaky gods. Followers of God do not. Followers of Zeus believe in a tumultuous conflict between the gods and a huge pack of superstitions surrounding disease and death. Followers of God believe war is evil. The difference between God and Zeus is many layered but I think that is the main thing on the ideological side, but ideology is not the main thing. If the followers and Zeus and the followers of God have the same behavior then the two are the same, otherwise not. Its not the gods or the stories but the behavior of the followers that can be compared. Similarly you can try to compare and contrast any two religions and come up short, but you can compare the behavior of the followers with a clear result.
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
Another question.. is Zeus God and Hercules Jesus? I mean the stories are very similar.. except in Zeus days they had lesser Gods like Athena Goddess of war and Aphrodite Goddess of love while in the God version they have only men and they are called Arch Angels..

I mean Zeus was first and his story was the original story.. the God story is a copy of the Zeus story.. so is Zeus God? And if he is God where did all the lesser Gods go? And why don't we mention his first son Hercules? I mean he fought bravely.. shouldnt we honor that son too? Or did someone just steal the story and re-write it?

I assume since christianity has such a Greek and roman influence more than jewish I just laughed. But I don't see the relations. Jesus is just a dude. God of abraham doesnt have a shape or wears skirts or anything. So I'd say no.
 

MissLisaM

New Member
Hmmmz isnt there a religious war that has been going on for years? And Greeks might have wanted to blame Gods for war which is alot nicer than God followers being racist and causing wars... Honestly isnt it God that allows for people to be petty and racist and start wars? Bottom line is the Greeks told the story first... it was stolen later and altered to benefit the ruler of that time... The thought of a God whoever u pick for it... makes u fall in line, think twice, makes consequences more severe because they become marks on ur eternal "soul".
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
Another question.. is Zeus God and Hercules Jesus? I mean the stories are very similar.. except in Zeus days they had lesser Gods like Athena Goddess of war and Aphrodite Goddess of love while in the God version they have only men and they are called Arch Angels..

I mean Zeus was first and his story was the original story.. the God story is a copy of the Zeus story.. so is Zeus God? And if he is God where did all the lesser Gods go? And why don't we mention his first son Hercules? I mean he fought bravely.. shouldnt we honor that son too? Or did someone just steal the story and re-write it?
Just to point out that G-d existed before Jesus was even born of Mary. Jesus was made G-d by the Pauline Christianity. Jesus was not a god in literal and physical terms, please.
Is it the same for Zeus and Hercules?

Regards
 

1213

Well-Known Member
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I mean Zeus was first and his story was the original story.. the God story is a copy of the Zeus story.. so is Zeus God? And if he is God where did all the lesser Gods go? And why don't we mention his first son Hercules? I mean he fought bravely.. shouldnt we honor that son too? Or did someone just steal the story and re-write it?

I think Greek gods are poor copy of Jewish beliefs. OT says for example:


God presides in the great assembly. He judges among the gods.

Psalms 82:1


I said, "You are gods, All of you are sons of the Most High. Nevertheless you shall die like men, And fall like one of the rulers."

Psalms 82:6-7


Now it happened on the day when the sons of God came to present themselves before Yahweh, that Satan also came among them.

Job 1:6

It happened, when men began to multiply on the surface of the ground, and daughters were born to them, that God's sons saw that men's daughters were beautiful, and they took for themselves wives of all that they chose.
Genesis 6:1-2

It seems Greeks copied those ideas.
 

The Kilted Heathen

Crow FreyjasmaðR
It seems Greeks copied those ideas.
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Jainarayan

ॐ नमो भगवते वासुदेवाय
Staff member
Premium Member
It seems Greeks copied those ideas.

Yeah, uh no...

Hesiod's Theogony, which details the origins of the universe and the gods in Greek stories, was composed around 700 BC. And while that was about 700 years after the time of Moses, what is written in the Theogony is a polar opposite of the stories from the OT. Actually it's probably totally incorrect to say "opposite", and more correct to say "totally unrelated in every possible which way from Sunday". The Theogony is probably cognate with Vedic stories, both being descendants of Proto-Indo-European religion, completely unrelated to Semitic religions in the same way that the language families are completely unrelated.
 

Kelly of the Phoenix

Well-Known Member
Another question.. is Zeus God and Hercules Jesus?
Samson is more of a rip-off of Herc. Jesus can't even hold a wooden beam without falling down.

I voted no, btw, because I'm still mad James Woods isn't Hades. :p

Followers of Zeus believe that wars and conflicts are caused by opposing and sneaky gods. Followers of God do not.
Debatable. Satan is often the villain. You'd think he'd merit no more than an eye-roll from an omnipotent being.

Followers of God believe war is evil.
LOL.

If the followers and Zeus and the followers of God have the same behavior then the two are the same, otherwise not.
Technically, from here:
The bull was the symbolic animal of Hadad. He appeared bearded,[10][11] often holding a club and thunderbolt while wearing a bull-horned headdress.[12][13] Hadad was equated with the Greek god Zeus; the Roman god Jupiter, as Jupiter Dolichenus; the Indo-European Nasite Hittite storm-god Teshub; the Egyptiangod Amun.[citation needed]

In the Baal Cycle, Yah(weh) would've been Poseidon, not Zeus.

Just to point out that G-d existed before Jesus was even born of Mary. Jesus was made G-d by the Pauline Christianity. Jesus was not a god in literal and physical terms, please.
Is it the same for Zeus and Hercules?
Zeus and Hercules were both gods who were born and died (at various points in the story).
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
Just to point out that G-d existed before Jesus was even born of Mary. Jesus was made G-d by the Pauline Christianity. Jesus was not a god in literal and physical terms, please.
Is it the same for Zeus and Hercules?

If Zeus has the same attributes as has Allah mentioned in Quran- the pristine and secure Word of G-d, I have no problem in believing Zeus as Allah, it would mean the same personage in different languages of people.

Regards
 

The Anointed

Well-Known Member
According to the ancient cultures, we live in an eternal oscillating universe that expands outward and contracts back to its beginning in space time.

“Universe after universe is like an interminable succession of wheels forever coming into view, forever rolling onwards, disappearing and reappearing; forever passing from being to non being, and again from non being to being. In short, the constant revolving of the wheel of life in one eternal cycle, according to fixed and immutable laws, is perhaps after all the sum and substance of the philosophy of Buddhism. And this eternal wheel has so to speak, six spokes representing six forms of existence.” ---- Mon. Williams, Buddhism, pp. 229, 122.

The days and nights of Brahma are called Manvantara, or the cycle of manifestation, ‘The Great Day,’ which is a period of universal activity, that is preceded, and also followed by ‘Pralaya,’ a dark period, which to our finite minds would seem as an eternity, or but a moment in time.

‘Manvantara,’ is a creative day as seen in the six days of creation in Genesis, ‘Pralaya,’ is the evening that proceeds the next creative day. The six periods of Creation and the seventh day of rest in which we now exist are referred to in the book of Genesis as the “GENERATIONS OF THE UNIVERSE.”

The English word “Generation,” is translated from the Hebrew “toledoth” which is used in the Old Testament in every instance as ‘births,’ or ‘descendants,’ such as “These are the generations of Adam,” or “these are the generations of Abraham, and Genesis 2: 4; These are the generations of the Universe or the heavens and earth, etc. And the ‘Great Day’ in which the seven generations of the universe are eternally repeated, is the eternal cosmic period, or the eighth eternal day in which those who attain to perfection are allowed to enter, where they shall be surrounded by great light and they shall experience eternal peace, while those who do not attain to perfection are cast back into the refining fires of the seven physical cycles of endless rebirths that perpetually revolve within the eighth eternal cosmic cycle.

Enoch the righteous, wrote that God created an eighth day also, so that it should be the first after his works, and it is a day eternal with neither hours, days, weeks, months or years, for all time is stuck together in one eon, etc, etc, and all who enter into the generation of the Light beings, are able to visit all those worlds that still exist in Space-Time, but not in our time.

A series of worlds following one upon the other-- each world rising a step higher than the previous world, so that every later world brings to ripeness the seeds that were imbedded in the former, and itself then prepares the seed for the universe that will follow it. This is the true resurrection in which all from the previous cycle of universal activity, who still have the judgmental war raging within them, are born again into the endless cycles of physical manifestation, or rebirths.

It was in the sixth creative day, or rather the sixth period of universal activity that Zeus, [THE SON OF MAN] and the MOST HIGH in the creation was born.

Zeus is called the father of Gods and men. He was the sixth child born to Cronos/TIME and Rhea/space, his five siblings, Hestia, Demeter, Hera, Hades, and Poseidon, were all swallowed by TIME/Cronos, before they had developed a supreme personality of Godhead within those universal bodies.

Zeus was the sixth child (The Spiritual Godhead and the Son of Man, born from the body of mankind, who is the most high that had developed in the sixth universal body). Zeus was born to Time (Kronos) and Space (Rhea) and of the six children born to time and space, Zeus was the only child that wasn’t swallowed by Time immediately after they were born and like Zeus, Osiris was born of the union of Space (Mut) and Time (Seb) and created from Nut (The primeval elements in space or in Mut) by Amen (the soul; the activating and creative force of the universe, or the Logos).

It was by a cunning devise of Metis ‘which is divine wisdom,’ that Zeus forced Cronos (Time) to bring up the five children or the five universal bodies that he had swallowed before they had developed an intellectual species within them.

Those children who were swallowed were the product of the first five creative days or periods of universal activity. Osiris like Adam was the first man to be mummified and Osiris is the god of the first of the five new made days, or periods of universal activity. Budge—Book of the Dead, p. 627, “O Osiris, son of Nut (Primeval matter), I have given unto thee the Sovereignty of thy father Seb (Time), and the goddess Mut (Space), thy mother, (Lord of Space and Time) who gave birth to the gods, brought you forth as the first born of five gods, and created thy beauties and fashioned thy members.”

Isis, the sister bride to Osiris, was the most popular goddess from the time of Psamtik 1 (663-610 B.C) till the coming of Christianity, her cult appealed to the Greeks and Romans alike and when Egypt came under Roman rule, her cult spread through much of Europe. By the time of Christ, the chief center of her worship was in Rome. Isis is commonly depicted with Horus the child (Harpocrates) on her lap, and today, it is impossible to distinguish between the late pagan and early Christian figures of the mother and child, it’s almost as though the old Pagan Queen was stripped of her old garments and clothed with the new covering of Christianity.
 
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