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The dumbest Scripture contest

Spiderman

Veteran Member
Please quote the scripture that you find more stupid than the rest.

The winner of this contest wins $50 Monopoly money. :D

I'm not going to quote it, but I think it was really stupid that Canaan and all of his descendants were cursed because Ham saw his drunk father butt naked.

The reason this verse is so stupid to me, is his descendants were cursed, and there is indication that many of them would be slaves as a result of this curse.

I think of how much suffering his descendants went through because he looked at his father's nakedness. It just grinds my gears.

Anything in the Bible that suggest a person's descendants will be cursed because of actions they never did, is just really stupid to me!

(The way all women have to go through such labor pains because Eve ate an apple, and how we are all cursed because of Adam and Eve's sins is also stupid.)

Who do you think hams descendants are in the world today?
 
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Spiderman

Veteran Member
Yes, this is a dumb contest, but it could bear some good fruit as well.

People should love God without adhering to the Bible.

Perhaps your post will stear someone away from this bizarre Ancient book.

I still want everyone to believe in God though. You don't need to believe in a ridiculous book to believe in God and put God first in your life.
 

Rational Agnostic

Well-Known Member
Please quote the scripture that you find more stupid than the rest.

The winner of this contest wins $50 Monopoly money. :D

I'm not going to quote it, but I think it was really stupid that ham and all of his descendants were cursed because he saw his drunk father butt naked.

The reason this verse is so stupid to me, is his descendants were cursed, and there is indication that many of them would be slaves as a result of this curse.

I think of how much suffering his descendants went through because he looked at his father's nakedness. It just grinds my gears.

Anything in the Bible that suggest a person's descendants will be cursed because of actions they never did, is just really stupid to me!

(The way all women have to go through such labor pains because Eve ate an apple, and how we are all cursed because of Adam and Eve's sins is also stupid.)

Who do you think hams descendants are in the world today?

Ezekiel 23:20: There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses.
 

BSM1

What? Me worry?
Actually Noah didn't really curse Ham, he cursed his grandson Canaan. Ostensibly this was because Ham, finding his father drunk, 'fixed' him in the veterinarian sense. Noah, in what had to be a very painful hangover, punished Ham in the most outrageous way imaginable at the time. This stemmed from the fact that he, Noah, could not father a fourth child.
 

whirlingmerc

Well-Known Member
Please quote the scripture that you find more stupid than the rest.

The winner of this contest wins $50 Monopoly money. :D

I'm not going to quote it, but I think it was really stupid that ham and all of his descendants were cursed because he saw his drunk father butt naked.

The reason this verse is so stupid to me, is his descendants were cursed, and there is indication that many of them would be slaves as a result of this curse.

I think of how much suffering his descendants went through because he looked at his father's nakedness. It just grinds my gears.

Anything in the Bible that suggest a person's descendants will be cursed because of actions they never did, is just really stupid to me!

(The way all women have to go through such labor pains because Eve ate an apple, and how we are all cursed because of Adam and Eve's sins is also stupid.)

Who do you think hams descendants are in the world today?


Actually there is no curse of Ham, it was the curse of Canaan. Canaan was cursed because he had a father who ridiculed his own father making fun of his drunk nakedness

Having a bad parent is a curse
 

74x12

Well-Known Member
Please quote the scripture that you find more stupid than the rest.

The winner of this contest wins $50 Monopoly money. :D

I'm not going to quote it, but I think it was really stupid that ham and all of his descendants were cursed because he saw his drunk father butt naked.

The reason this verse is so stupid to me, is his descendants were cursed, and there is indication that many of them would be slaves as a result of this curse.

I think of how much suffering his descendants went through because he looked at his father's nakedness. It just grinds my gears.

Anything in the Bible that suggest a person's descendants will be cursed because of actions they never did, is just really stupid to me!

(The way all women have to go through such labor pains because Eve ate an apple, and how we are all cursed because of Adam and Eve's sins is also stupid.)

Who do you think hams descendants are in the world today?
It wasn't all of Ham's descendants. It was only Canaan his firstborn and the father of the Canaanites.

There is reason to believe that at the time of Peleg the people of the world decided to divide up the earth between themselves. This would likely have been accomplished through the casting of lots. All the descendants of Ham were going to Africa like Mizraim the founder of Egypt for example. But Canaan stayed in the land that was really meant for the descendants of Shem. This is why the "land of Canaan" was given to Abraham (a true descendant of Shem) instead.

As for your theory about them being slaves. I think you're reading into it. All people in the world have been slaves a time or two throughout history. Most recently in America it was people of African descent, but seriously that's the last 500 years of human history. We have thousands of years of slavery before that of other peoples.
 

Spiderman

Veteran Member
It wasn't all of Ham's descendants. It was only Canaan his firstborn and the father of the Canaanites.

There is reason to believe that at the time of Peleg the people of the world decided to divide up the earth between themselves. This would likely have been accomplished through the casting of lots. All the descendants of Ham were going to Africa like Mizraim the founder of Egypt for example. But Canaan stayed in the land that was really meant for the descendants of Shem. This is why the "land of Canaan" was given to Abraham (a true descendant of Shem) instead.

As for your theory about them being slaves. I think you're reading into it. All people in the world have been slaves a time or two throughout history. Most recently in America it was people of African descent, but seriously that's the last 500 years of human history. We have thousands of years of slavery before that of other peoples.
sometimes when the Bible refers to one person, it's referring to all of their descendants as well.

But I accept correction. Isn't it still stupid though that Canaan was cursed for what his father did?
 

crossfire

LHP Mercuræn Feminist Heretic ☿
Premium Member
Actually Noah didn't really curse Ham, he cursed his grandson Canaan. Ostensibly this was because Ham, finding his father drunk, 'fixed' him in the veterinarian sense. Noah, in what had to be a very painful hangover, punished Ham in the most outrageous way imaginable at the time. This stemmed from the fact that he, Noah, could not father a fourth child.
Ahem...Ham "uncovered his Father's nakedness." See Leviticus 20:11 for what this means:


11 And the man that lieth with his father's wife hath uncovered his father's nakedness: both of them shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.​

Apparently Ham had sex with Noah's wife while Noah (and perhaps his wife as well) was drunk. That would make Canaan the son of Noah's wife by Ham. The curse on Canaan would be Noah not giving him part of a son of Noah's inheritance. (You could understand why Noah didn't have any more children if his wife was complicit in this.)

I could be wrong, however.
 
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Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Mark 11: 12-14

12 The next day as they were leaving Bethany, Jesus was hungry. 13 Seeing in the distance a fig tree in leaf, he went to find out if it had any fruit. When he reached it, he found nothing but leaves, because it was not the season for figs.D)" style="font-size: 0.625em; line-height: 22px; vertical-align: top;"> 14 Then he said to the tree, “May no one ever eat fruit from you again.” And his disciples heard him say it.
 

Bob the Unbeliever

Well-Known Member
And, naturally, the 3rd from the end:

"19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book." Rev 21:19.

I find this one so ironic that it's quite funny: Considering the countless different and conflicting versions of the bible, you HAVE to see it as funny.
 

BSM1

What? Me worry?
Ahem...Ham "uncovered his Father's nakedness." See Leviticus 20:11 for what this means:


11 And the man that lieth with his father's wife hath uncovered his father's nakedness: both of them shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.​

Apparently Ham had sex with Noah's wife while Noah (and perhaps his wife as well) was drunk. That would make Canaan the son of Noah's wife by Ham. The curse on Canaan would be Noah not giving him part of a son of Noah's inheritance. (You could understand why Noah didn't have any more children if his wife was complicit in this.)

I could be wrong, however.


Sounds better than what I had...
 

sealchan

Well-Known Member
sometimes when the Bible refers to one person, it's referring to all of their descendants as well.

But I accept correction. Isn't it still stupid though that Canaan was cursed for what his father did?

I would have been like "Well I guess I won't be having any of grandsons named Canaan!"
 

InChrist

Free4ever
There is no possibility of "dumb or stupid scriptures", since the Bible is the word of an eternal Being who is the source of all wisdom. The stupidity lies with those who think they are smarter or wiser than an infinite Creator, mocking God's word out of ignorance of the actual point being expressed in passages of scripture or worse out of deliberate. arrogant hatred.

All flesh is as grass, And all ]the glory of man as the flower of the grass.
The grass withers, And its flower falls away, But the word of the Lord endures forever.” 1 Peter 1:24-25


And because God created mankind this way—of course, He did not have to, but chose to—we have the free will to disobey Him, blaspheme Him, and, yes, even mock Him. But we are warned in Galatians 6:7 that God will not always be mocked. The blasphemy and derision are temporary. There will be a day of reckoning, and, ultimately, a man reaps what he sows. https://www.gotquestions.org/mock-God.html

 

Spiderman

Veteran Member
There is no possibility of "dumb or stupid scriptures", since the Bible is the word of an eternal Being who is the source of all wisdom. The stupidity lies with those who think they are smarter or wiser than an infinite Creator, mocking God's word out of ignorance of the actual point being expressed in passages of scripture or worse out of deliberate. arrogant hatred.

All flesh is as grass, And all ]the glory of man as the flower of the grass.
The grass withers, And its flower falls away, But the word of the Lord endures forever.” 1 Peter 1:24-25


And because God created mankind this way—of course, He did not have to, but chose to—we have the free will to disobey Him, blaspheme Him, and, yes, even mock Him. But we are warned in Galatians 6:7 that God will not always be mocked. The blasphemy and derision are temporary. There will be a day of reckoning, and, ultimately, a man reaps what he sows. https://www.gotquestions.org/mock-God.html

Just because a book claims to be the word of God does not mean it is.

The first Christian Bible contained books that yours does not contain.

How do you know you have the right Bible?

so you think killing people for working on the wrong day of the week and a rapist marrying his rape victim is okay?
 

Spiderman

Veteran Member
There is no possibility of "dumb or stupid scriptures", since the Bible is the word of an eternal Being who is the source of all wisdom. The stupidity lies with those who think they are smarter or wiser than an infinite Creator, mocking God's word out of ignorance of the actual point being expressed in passages of scripture or worse out of deliberate. arrogant hatred.

All flesh is as grass, And all ]the glory of man as the flower of the grass.
The grass withers, And its flower falls away, But the word of the Lord endures forever.” 1 Peter 1:24-25


And because God created mankind this way—of course, He did not have to, but chose to—we have the free will to disobey Him, blaspheme Him, and, yes, even mock Him. But we are warned in Galatians 6:7 that God will not always be mocked. The blasphemy and derision are temporary. There will be a day of reckoning, and, ultimately, a man reaps what he sows. https://www.gotquestions.org/mock-God.html

God already told me the Bible has errors. Its obvious that it does.

You don't even follow the Bible and I can prove it!
 

InChrist

Free4ever
God already told me the Bible has errors. Its obvious that it does.

You don't even follow the Bible and I can prove it!
The number one method of satan is to cast doubt on the word of God. This has been his favorite tactic from the beginning. If "god" has told you the Bible has errors, other than minor grammatical, then it is the god of this world, the fallen angel, the devil and enemy of the Creator God, of humans made in His image, and His words in the scriptures given to humanity.

Maybe I don't follow the Bible all the time, maybe I often fall short...I do, but Jesus Christ never falls short and I am forgiven and have new life in Christ, in His righteousness, not my own.
 
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