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List Anything Islam Has Right?

Kangaroo Feathers

Yea, it is written in the Book of Cyril...
This is a quote by Greg Koukl: "So let's set the record straight. Faith is not the opposite of reason. The opposite of faith is unbelief. And reason is not the opposite of faith. The opposite of reason is irrationality." He goes on to say that there is such a thing as irrational faith. For example if you are having an operation, you would put faith in your doctor that he would do a good job. That would be a rational faith. However if your friend, who did not even study Medicine, decided to operate on you and you believed that they would do a good job, that would be an irrational faith.

Like I mentioned before in my previous post, religious texts are not scientific textbooks so you cannot apply the scientific method to disprove/prove its claims. However (like I mentioned in my previous post) there are ways of confirming certain aspects of the text as science continues to advance (The field of study is called religious epistemology). Yes you need faith to believe in your religion, I agree with that completely. But if your religion describes a worldview which is incoherent and inconsistent with what you see around you, and you believe in such a religion, that would be an irrational faith. As such, believing in your religion need not be a blind leap in the dark. Logic and reason can go a far way as to what is true and what is false.
I didn't say faith was the opposite of reason. I said it's not objectively verifiable.
 

ManofIslam

Member
Well as Muslims, we believe that Islam has everything right! We believe that The Holy Qur'an is the True and Final Word of Allah (SWT) (GOD), and so that we believe that everything that The Holy Qur'an instructs us to do, and which it says in general, is right/correct for us to believe and to follow.
 

kiwimac

Brother Napalm of God's Love
Islam, like all faiths, gets some things right and others wrong. It is, after all, mediated through fallible humans.
 

Muffled

Jesus in me
They believe that the message was not well kept and that made a third revelation by way of the Qur'an necessary.

Of course, that in practice means that they don't much trust the discernment of Christianity.

I believe that is ethnocentric bias on their part. There is no evidence that the Gospel isn't correct.
 

Muffled

Jesus in me
Oh, please. If you want to know what it really feels like to not be safe in America, drive a car with a Trump bumper sticker on it in one of the “tolerant” leftist strongholds like San Francisco or Portland.

Car With Trump MAGA Bumper Sticker Spray Painted, Tires Slashed In SF

Police: Trump bumper sticker triggered vandalism

I have to laugh. everyone thinks he is so pure. My wife has a n unfavorable view of African-Americans but DNA revealed 1.9 % Nigerian. My dad always had a thing about Jews but I found a Jewish ancestor which probably explains why I match DNA with someone in Israel. And if I thought I might not have any connection to people in the Middle East my DNA comes from there also although I haven't found an ancestor yet.
 

Muffled

Jesus in me
Uh, Jesus did not even marry. Or did he? (Mary Magdalene). There is a tomb in which Jesus, his wife and child are interred.

I believe it is impossible to find Jesus in a tomb. A man named Jeshua with a wife and child could exist but Jeshua is a common Jewish name.
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
I believe that is ethnocentric bias on their part. There is no evidence that the Gospel isn't correct.
That is IMO very much a matter of faith and faith alone. I don't know that it even makes sense to say that the Gospels "are correct" or even false.
 
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