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Jayhawker Soule

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Premium Member
Yesterday I went to pick up my car in the garage of one of Chicago's Lake Shore high-rises. The garage office was staffed by a Black gentleman who was probably in his late 50's. Prominently displayed on his desk was the following framed quote ...

There is nothing in all the world more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity ... You have a moral responsibility to be intelligent.

- Rev. Martin Luther King Jr.
Simply outstanding!
 

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
How many kinds of intelligence do you think there are?


BTW, you misspelled intelligence in your sig.
 

d.

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lol Too funny, in light of the topic at hand.

could be, but i don't know if the quality of one's spelling necessarily says anything about one's intelligence? in that case, all dyslexic people would be stupid. well, i'm sure you didn't mean that...:sarcastic;)

personally i'd replace the 'intelligence' bit with something along the lines of 'you have a moral responsibility to educate yourself'; but that admittedly doesn't have the same ring to it. :)
 

Simon Gnosis

Active Member
Jayhawker Soule said:
Yesterday I went to pick up my car in the garage of one of Chicago's Lake Shore high-rises. The garage office was staffed by a Black gentleman who was probably in his late 50's. Prominently displayed on his desk was the following framed quote ...

There is nothing in all the world more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity ... You have a moral responsibility to be intelligent.

- Rev. Martin Luther King Jr.
Simply outstanding!


So you are saying stupid people are technically immoral?

I think what would be better would be.

You have a moral responsibilty to learn
 

michel

Administrator Emeritus
Staff member
Jayhawker Soule said:
Yesterday I went to pick up my car in the garage of one of Chicago's Lake Shore high-rises. The garage office was staffed by a Black gentleman who was probably in his late 50's. Prominently displayed on his desk was the following framed quote ...

There is nothing in all the world more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity ... You have a moral responsibility to be intelligent.

- Rev. Martin Luther King Jr.
Simply outstanding!
Like a lamb to the slaughter................

Intelligence, to my understanding is an ability; one that is inate. Intelligence cannot be earned or improved upon; do you disagree ?

The reason I say this is that for all those who are not intelligent (and I consider myself onesuch), the very best I can hope to achieve as a personal goal is the acquisition of knowledge, through hard work, and experience.

What about all those who are not intelligent / At what level of I.Q do you set the boundaries for the above to be true?

I don't know, it just seems to me as if the word "intelligent" is not the best word.

Do you disagree with me?
 

BrandonE

King of Parentheses
Fantastic.

Edit: For those picking it apart, intelligent may not in fact be the best word to use, but it's a quote from a great man. I think that most of you knew immediately what it was getting at, or you wouldn't have questioned whether it was the right word in the first place.
 

Simon Gnosis

Active Member
michel said:
Like a lamb to the slaughter................

Intelligence, to my understanding is an ability; one that is inate. Intelligence cannot be earned or improved upon; do you disagree ?

The reason I say this is that for all those who are not intelligent (and I consider myself onesuch), the very best I can hope to achieve as a personal goal is the acquisition of knowledge, through hard work, and experience.

What about all those who are not intelligent / At what level of I.Q do you set the boundaries for the above to be true?

I don't know, it just seems to me as if the word "intelligent" is not the best word.

Do you disagree with me?

I wasnt gonna say that...hehe
I was trying to be kind and then along comes Michel...hehe
 

Simon Gnosis

Active Member
BrandonE said:
Fantastic.

Edit: For those picking it apart, intelligent may not in fact be the best word to use, but it's a quote from a great man. I think that most of you knew immediately what it was getting at, or you wouldn't have questioned whether it was the right word in the first place.

Dont care who he was or what he meant, words are important, especially in quotes..
Besides my opinion and Michel's that the wording is rather a bad choice is a fair and acceptable one.
I think he should have said or even intended to use the world knowledge and not intelligence.

Besides its Jayhawker....hehe
 

CaptainXeroid

Following Christ
BrandonE said:
Fantastic.

Edit: For those picking it apart, intelligent may not in fact be the best word to use, but it's a quote from a great man. I think that most of you knew immediately what it was getting at, or you wouldn't have questioned whether it was the right word in the first place.
:clap Frubals for a most excellent point! 'Nuff said!
 

michel

Administrator Emeritus
Staff member
divine said:
could be, but i don't know if the quality of one's spelling necessarily says anything about one's intelligence? in that case, all dyslexic people would be stupid. well, i'm sure you didn't mean that...:sarcastic;)

personally i'd replace the 'intelligence' bit with something along the lines of 'you have a moral responsibility to educate yourself'; but that admittedly doesn't have the same ring to it. :)

That is exactly the point I was trying to make (sorry I did not see your post first time round).

What makes the answer even more difficult is that if you accept 'different intelligences' (as in the thread started by Sunstone), the use of the word is even more erroneous.
 

d.

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BrandonE said:
I think that most of you knew immediately what it was getting at,
yes...i for one didn't mean it as a critique. i just generally find the term 'intelligence' a bit problematic.
 

Feathers in Hair

World's Tallest Hobbit
I like it, Jay!

I'm not sure if I've ever seen people try to critisize MLK's words before... Maybe the purpose of the quote is its meaning? Maybe it's just me, but I think trying to edit a quote by such a person myself would be to suggest that I knew better than they. (And I don't.)
 
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