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I could do better than God!

Were I to do everything as I said in the OP, You would: (Choose the best answer available)

  • Prefer that PopeADope was God

    Votes: 3 23.1%
  • The world would be better without injustice, violence, handicaps, hunger, disabilities etc.

    Votes: 1 7.7%
  • I prefer the world the way it is. (PLEASE explain!!!)

    Votes: 3 23.1%
  • I don't like how the world is, but I prefer God's decisions above PopeADope's. (Explain why)

    Votes: 2 15.4%
  • I think the world would overall be a better place if God did as the OP suggests, but I'm still torn

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • No, God does a better job than described in the OP! (Please explain)

    Votes: 4 30.8%

  • Total voters
    13

Spiderman

Veteran Member
I don't claim to be any better than the average poster at RF. If you are law abiding, educated, productive member of society who follows the golden rule, you are better than myself.

But I am better than God. You know why I don't heal quadriplegics, establish women's equality in terribly misogynistic places like Saudi-Arabia, or help police catch pedophiles and mass-murderers?? Because I can't!!

If I were God, and I could, you bet I would.


I would tell Adolf Hitler, Sadaam Hussein, Osama Bin Laden, Jeffry Dahmer, Ted Bundy, Charles Manson, and other such people, "please don't even think about it or I will kill you! Now, if you want to be healthy and not be a sociopath, just ask, and I will give you healthy desires and a change of heart. And Ted, I might create for you the perfect masochistic woman for who likes to be controlled, as long as you don't kill her, alright!":innocent: (sorta joking. I'd make them perfect for each other:holdinghands:. )

If I had a problem with homosexuals, I would simply make them heterosexual and then problem solved! :thumbsup:

I would give pedophiles the ability to choose whether they want to be attracted to people their own age or not, and as a Father to all people, I wouldn't let them touch or rape any of my kids. I would actually be a responsible father and restrain them.

I would anoint some yummy young ladies to work the miracles of Moses, Elijah, Jesus, and Michael the Archangel, and send them to Saudi Arabia, Iran, Pakistan, (and other places that do stupid things like imprison women for getting raped or showing hair) and preferably they would be wearing thongs, bikinis, or lingerie in defiance of the misogynistic dress-code laws. They would be bullet proof, and have all kinds of Angels protecting them, and they would work miracles greater than the ones in Scripture to destroy all dark-aged tyranny and misogyny, release those who are imprisoned for stupid reasons, and establish healthy laws that actually make sense. It would be the age of girl power!:dancer::dancers:

If I were God, instead of thousands of protestant denominations, Hindus, Jehovah's witnesses, Catholics, Orthodox, Muslims, atheists, Shintos, Buddhists, Jews, Polytheists, and countless others, I would simply speak to all people regularly and let them know the truth.

There would be no need for a Bible or Qur'an because I would speak to people regularly and if they needed a sacred text, they could get a pen and write down what I'm saying. But no need, I live in their heart and mind, and simply remind them. ;)

I would make the blind see, the deaf hear, the Crippled walk, take away cancer, feed the hungry, cure HIV, and give people euphoria that is better than the best drug or the high that resembles being in love. And everyone would be beautiful and have a perfect body. And I give amputees new limbs.

I would make everyone like so many liberals these days in the sense that, people would have their inclinations to not be racist or bigots, and anyone could choose their race and appearance, and I provide.

And suddenly, if everyone gets tired of the euphoria, bliss, and dopamine, serotonin, norepinephrine, Gabba, adrenaline, and endorphin rush and decides they prefer not to exist....well, then I comfortably make them cease to exist. After giving them 40 days to think about it.

So, if I were God, I give sociopaths a conscience, help rapists lose the desire to rape, help wannabe killers lose the desire to kill, establish leaders who want what is most kind to others and what is most just. I protect children, outlaw sex-slavery, and rescue people from all forms of slavery (or prevent it from happening). No war. No terrorism. I tell everyone the truth so that no one is confused, feed the hungry, build mansions for the homeless, stop animal cruelty and slaughter houses. No need for tests on animals, I just tell researchers and scientists what they need to know!

People don't make many mistakes because I tell them what they should do.

I'll even give a transgender female a penis and testicles. Or vice versa. :p

However, everyone has a free-will still. I'm not violating free-will anymore than a police man or Angel violates free-will by arresting or killing threats to society.

Would you prefer that I was God? Keep in mind that if you like morphine, PCP, cocaine, Ketamine, Benzodiazepines, amphetamines, adrenaline, whatever, I'd make it grow on trees, put it in your lettuce. Only it would be safe, non-addictive, no comedown, or you simply ask me "God, please give me the epitome of joy, euphoria, and pleasure. God please give me an orgasm. God, please give me the perfect partner." And I would provide, as long as you weren't repeatedly rebelling against me and hurting others.

If you wanted your own Blimp, your own hot air balloon, your own wings, your own pet Dinosaur or pet whatever, your own submarine or yacht, your own walk on the moon or mars, just try to obey me and listen to me, and it shall be granted! No need for astronauts, everyone gets to go to mars, the moon, or Uranus. If you want to walk on the sun, well, that can be arranged honey! You want a boob job or something further south, just ask! :D

Keep in mind , in Scripture God made all things with the words of his mouth, and in Scripture turned a woman into a pillar of salt, made frogs materialize out of nothing, turned water into blood, destroyed cities with fire and brimstone, raised the dead, restored flesh to people where leprosy had eaten it away. This means, if I was God, I would have the power to do all this. No one gets tossed into a lake of fire either. Do you have any better ideas to add? Were I God, I would grant them most likely, as long as it didn't cause others suffering. Ask and you shall receive. Were I God, I would actually do what I say. :)
 
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Spiderman

Veteran Member
God doesn't do what he says.

Scripture says, "ask and you shall receive, ask anything of the father in my name and it shall be granted, seek and you shall find, knock and the door shall be opened unto you".

I would simply say, "Ask and you shall receive" and add, "as long as it doesn't involve causing somebody else suffering". And then, unlike our current God, I would be obedient to my promises...:innocent:
 

Spiderman

Veteran Member
Also,
if I were God, you would never have body odor (unless you like your own stench, I'd give you the best stench ever :mask:), you would never defecate (unless you like defecating, then I would make it smell good as well :D) you would never get tooth decay or obesity (unless you really wanted it.)

You would never grow hair where you don't want it. I would cut your hair as you want it and give you a clean shave and wax your vagigi! :tongueclosed::smileycat:

Menstruation would be a discharge of gold, diamonds, pearls, roses, lilies, tulips, and any treasure your heart desires. :smirk:

No sexually transmitted diseases...everyone gets what they want, as well as any erotic pleasures, rushes, or highs...

If you want to jump out of a plane with no parachute and splatter on the ground, I would grant it, and then relieve you of all pain and put you back together. Everyone does what they want to do, and it's true joy that lasts, fullness of pleasure, delight to all the senses, delicious food, perfect spouse, and completely orgasmic (for those who want it)!
:hugehug:
 

Spiderman

Veteran Member
Nobody has to build a building, mansion, or castle. Just ask me and ill build it for you.

Also, if you want fairies, leprechauns, and unicorns to exist, ill make them exist for you! :)
 

SomeRandom

Still learning to be wise
Staff member
Premium Member
You have some very deep seated hate issues towards God.
Not that I can really blame you. I just hope these venting sessions are helping you find some sort of peace.
 

Jumi

Well-Known Member
If you became a super-magician "god", I don't think everything you would do would be "good".
 

Duke_Leto

Active Member
I feel compelled to find some flaw in your ideal world, or some way to defend the current world, but the more I think about the idea, the better I prefer your world.

If only there were a college of cardinals for God! I would stuff the ballots for you!
 

Spiderman

Veteran Member
Then you are now a god.

Feel free to discuss it with Him when you get up there.
Oh, so you prefer a world of violence, murder, war, rape, confusion, division, crime, unhappiness, cancer, HIV, disease, ugliness, body odor, cavities, and other disabilities and suffering?? Got it!

Can you give a rational explanation as to why? o_O
 

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
Oh, so you prefer a world of violence, murder, war, rape, confusion, division, crime, unhappiness, cancer, HIV, disease, ugliness, body odor, cavities, and other disabilities and suffering?? Got it!

Can you give a rational explanation as to why? o_O
man
 

Jainarayan

ॐ नमो भगवते वासुदेवाय
Staff member
Premium Member
Oh, so you prefer a world of violence, murder, war, rape, confusion, division, crime, unhappiness, cancer, HIV, disease, ugliness, body odor, cavities, and other disabilities and suffering?? Got it!

Can you give a rational explanation as to why? o_O

What makes you think God did all that? Not everything has or needs a rational explanation.
 

sojourner

Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
Here’s the problem: theology isn’t a “If-I-Ran-the-Circus” proposition. Theology is coming to terms with the world the way it is through an understanding of how we relate to the Divine nature of things. “God” is an idealized vision of our highest, best selves, and a world that reflects and fosters goodness. Kind of like the OP lays out, the difference being that the OP isn’t realistic. And that’s the beef I have with the OP. It doesn’t meet the world on the world’s terms.
 

allfoak

Alchemist
God doesn't do what he says.
It is impossible to know the truth of that assertion since there is no objective proof that God even exists.
If you assert that there is a God, you by default give up your right to argue with your God because it is God.
If you assert that there is no God then perhaps saying you could do a better job than you are now would be more realistic.
 

1213

Well-Known Member
...There would be no need for a Bible or Qur'an because I would speak to people regularly and if they needed a sacred text, they could get a pen and write down what I'm saying. But no need, I live in their heart and mind, and simply remind them.

It is interesting that Bible tells:

For finding fault with them, he said, "Behold, the days come," says the Lord, "That I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah; Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers, In the day that I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; For they didn't continue in my covenant, And I disregarded them," says the Lord. "For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel. After those days," says the Lord; "I will put my laws into their mind, I will also write them on their heart. I will be to them a God, And they will be to me a people. They will not teach every man his fellow citizen, Every man his brother, saying, 'Know the Lord,' For all will know me, From the least of them to the greatest of them. For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness. I will remember their sins and lawless deeds no more."
Hebrews 8:8-12 (Jeremiah 31:31-34)

That covenant was done through Jesus. We all have the opportunity you seem to offer. But it seems that many don’t really want that.
 

ChanaR

Member
In my deepest thoughts, I have tried to imagine heaven. As I imagine, I run into difficulty.

I imagine a world with no illness, pain, or suffering. As a person who has had an unusual amount of suffering, this was at first an important thing for me. But then as I thought back over my life, I realized that all my pain had been opportunities for growth. Not everyone who suffers becomes wise, but no one becomes wise who suffer. We cannot control what happens to us, but we can control how we respond -- instead of getting bitter, we get better. Not that I'm wise yet, but I'm well on my way. I remember reading a novel once about a boy who could feel no pain, who made no mistakes. He became evil. It made me think a lot. I don't know if lack of suffering would make us evil, but certainly suffering is the greatest opportunity for self cultivation. I cannot imagine heaven without it.

The I thought about growing old -- something that really scares me. I don't want to end up in a nursing home with bed sores. But the more i thought about my mother, I thought about how priceless her maturity had become to me, how I often go to her for advice. My life would be so much poorer if she were not there. There is a certain kind of understanding of the world that only comes as we age and mature. When I was 20, I thought my parents were dumb. By the time I was thirty, it was amazing just how much smarter they had become! LOL :) Now at my age i have a handle on things in a way that makes me just smile at how naive I was when I was younger. If that's true, just think how much more I will understand when I'm 80. I can't imagine heaven if I can't grow to be old and wise.

Then I thought about how heaven being eternal life. Death breaks our hearts, and causes primal fear. Life without death at least would be a blessing, right? But without death there can be no birth, because we would quickly become awfully crowded. And without the cycle of birth and death, the loveliest things in life would be missing; flowers, butterflies, the laughter of children, the racing heart of a first kiss, the joy of holding your newborn baby or seeing your daughter walk down the aisle dressed in white. Without those things, I don't think it would be heaven. So death is worth it.

There is heaven to be found right here in this life if one can see it. Let go of the desire for something better. It is an illusion. The grass is not greener on some other side. Like Dorothy in the Wizard of Oz, you can find what you are seeking right where you are, in your own backyard.
 
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