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Islamaphobia, bigotry, hate, and cruelty!

How about this... You create a thread if you wish to debate, tag me and I'll debate you on this tireless point.

There's not much to debate as you've never offered a position other than generic hostility to me and what I said. I don't actually know what you believe I am misrepresenting.

If you can tell me which of these you disagree with then, no problem:

A. Muslims enslaved many white and black people

or any of:

1. Using antisemite to apply to a 7th C figure is anachronistic
2. Saying an Arab can't be 'antisemitic' because they are Semites makes no more sense than saying an Italian can't be prejudiced against a Francophone African because they are both 'Latin people'. They both belong to the same linguistic grouping after all.
3. There was no 'Semitic' identity to belong to
4. Modern genetics have conclusively demonstrated that considering peninsular Arabs and Mediterranean Jews as part of a common 'Semitic' ethnicity has no basis in fact.
5. Antisemite only applies to Jews because that's what the word was created to mean. It also makes no sense to apply anti-semite, to a broader group as that would only mean 'hostility to people who speak Semitic languages' which would be very silly indeed.
 

Epic Beard Man

Bearded Philosopher
There's not much to debate as you've never offered a position other than generic hostility to me and what I said. I don't actually know what you believe I am misrepresenting.

If you can tell me which of these you disagree with then, no problem:

A. Muslims enslaved many white and black people

or any of:

1. Using antisemite to apply to a 7th C figure is anachronistic
2. Saying an Arab can't be 'antisemitic' because they are Semites makes no more sense than saying an Italian can't be prejudiced against a Francophone African because they are both 'Latin people'. They both belong to the same linguistic grouping after all.
3. There was no 'Semitic' identity to belong to
4. Modern genetics have conclusively demonstrated that considering peninsular Arabs and Mediterranean Jews as part of a common 'Semitic' ethnicity has no basis in fact.
5. Antisemite only applies to Jews because that's what the word was created to mean. It also makes no sense to apply anti-semite, to a broader group as that would only mean 'hostility to people who speak Semitic languages' which would be very silly indeed.

Your topic has nothing to do with this thread, again make a thread, tag me and we can discuss there. I do not wish to further derail the discussion. The subject isn't necessarily about antisemitism.
 

Sir Doom

Cooler than most of you
I was implying that you are running a propaganda campaign in the same way a fascist dictatorship might run their propaganda campaign.

Exploiting statistics, twisting the opponent's words, cherry picking text, adopting a 'with us or against us' stance. That's how it all starts, my friend.

If you insist you are being objective, I challenge you. Plumb for the opposite statistic.

You used instances advocating violence, try instances advocating peace in both the Quran and the Doctrines of Fascism. Shouldn't that be just as relevant?
 

Spiderman

Veteran Member
Yeah. We all may remember and practice the following.

Matthew 7:3
Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye?
I acknowledge the timber in my own eyes.

I have many problems. But I don't approve of torturing, mutilating, and killing in the name of God. Jesus said "let the one who is without sin cast the first stone. He called self-righteous religious people "brood of vipers, children of the devil".

Radical Islam is the epitome of self-righteous Religious hypocrites that Jesus had a problem with! Muhammad promoted obvious terrorism!

@Sir Doom
What are you doing trying to be the good guy and making me out to be the bad guy?

I'm promoting love, freedom, women's rights, treating gays like human beings, freedom of speech, non-violence, peace, virtue, and social justice!

What's the problem with pointing out the greatest threats to those rights, freedoms, luxuries, and virtues that we both cherish?

In the name of love and compassion I'm simply condemning tyranny, bullying, terrorism, hate, bigotry, viscious cruelty, torture, and calls to violence. When over 1.4 billion people are calling psychopathic literature the word of God, that is a HUGE threat to our liberties!

These policies are already causing hell for countless millions of people who love freedom and can't speak the truth less they be tortured, imprisoned for decades, mutilated, or executed.

People have had their tongues cut out for speaking the truth in Muslim Theocracies. I'd much rather be dead than missing a nose, a tongue, hands, or feet, and Muslims have been doing this to people in the 21st century! The Qur'an supports this barbaric treatment and mutilation of people!

I love Shiites because they are a less extreme form of Islam on average, they are a persecuted minority, they get raped, sold into slavery, their mosques get bombed, and I have sympathy for any persecuted minority!

I'm simply pointing out and condemning cruelty and torture. I'm promoting love and compassion.

What's the problem?

@SomeRandom
I disagree! In order for me to renounce the bigotry and cruelty in the Bible, someone had to show me how asinine, and psychotic it is that Israelites killed people for working on the Sabbath.

This and other terrible disgusting atrocities in the Bible against polytheists and unbelievers needed to be placed before me in a most repulsive fashion, almost like a dog getting his nose rubbed into something he did wrong. I had to see how disgusting the hate, mass-killings, and bigotry was in order to wake-up and say that's ****ed up!

Suddenly I realized, OMG! I cannot condemn groups like ISIS and defend the Bible. That is HYPOCRISY!

I'm using the same tactics that were used to open my eyes! If i can reach one person, then it's not in vain!
 

Spiderman

Veteran Member
I was implying that you are running a propaganda campaign in the same way a fascist dictatorship might run their propaganda campaign.

Exploiting statistics, twisting the opponent's words, cherry picking text, adopting a 'with us or against us' stance. That's how it all starts, my friend.

If you insist you are being objective, I challenge you. Plumb for the opposite statistic.

You used instances advocating violence, try instances advocating peace in both the Quran and the Doctrines of Fascism. Shouldn't that be just as relevant?

Problem is,

The radical groups are being enabled by our apathy and political correctness.

Speaking the truth about Muhammad and the Qur'an will be tolerated less and less in the west as Islam becomes more and more powerful a presence!


I have heard many people describe Islam as a Religion of peace, and the Qur'an as peaceful.

People need to wake-up and recognize why Muslims cut off heads, mutilate, torture, and dehumanize non-muslims! It's because that is what Muhammad did and taught.

ISIS cuts off heads because Muhammad cut off heads!


People need to recognize where this toxic hatred, violence, bigotry, and ideology is coming from.

Most people have no clue.

It never was intended to be a Religion of peace from the get go! Peaceful people don't chop off heads and describe brutal tortures, crucifixions, and psychopathic mutilations of their enemies, like the founder of Islam did!
 
Your topic has nothing to do with this thread, again make a thread, tag me and we can discuss there. I do not wish to further derail the discussion. The subject isn't necessarily about antisemitism.

A thread about what? Just reply with a letter or number based on the list, it's far quicker than explaining why you refuse to make an actual point.

The OP said Muhammed was anti-semitic. You said he can't be anti-semitic because he's Semitic.

I said the label is anachronistic and the idea that an Arab can't be anti-semitic makes no sense anyway as 'Semitic' relates only to language.

That has nothing to do with the OP and is derailing the thread? :shrug:
 

Sir Doom

Cooler than most of you
My problem is your methodology belies your stated intention. It makes little difference what you claim to promote if you must be subversive to promote it. You ruin all faith for me in that instance.
 

SomeRandom

Still learning to be wise
Staff member
Premium Member
I acknowledge the timber in my own eyes.

I have many problems. But I don't approve of torturing, mutilating, and killing in the name of God. Jesus said "let the one who is without sin cast the first stone. He called self-righteous religious people "brood of vipers, children of the devil".

Radical Islam is the epitome of self-righteous Religious hypocrites that Jesus had a problem with! Muhammad promoted obvious terrorism!

@Sir Doom
What are you doing trying to be the good guy and making me out to be the bad guy?

I'm promoting love, freedom, women's rights, treating gays like human beings, freedom of speech, non-violence, peace, virtue, and social justice!

What's the problem with pointing out the greatest threats to those rights, freedoms, luxuries, and virtues that we both cherish?

In the name of love and compassion I'm simply condemning tyranny, bullying, terrorism, hate, bigotry, viscious cruelty, torture, and calls to violence. When over 1.4 billion people are calling psychopathic literature the word of God, that is a HUGE threat to our liberties!

These policies are already causing hell for countless millions of people who love freedom and can't speak the truth less they be tortured, imprisoned for decades, mutilated, or executed.

People have had their tongues cut out for speaking the truth in Muslim Theocracies. I'd much rather be dead than missing a nose, a tongue, hands, or feet, and Muslims have been doing this to people in the 21st century! The Qur'an supports this barbaric treatment and mutilation of people!

I love Shiites because they are a less extreme form of Islam on average, they are a persecuted minority, they get raped, sold into slavery, their mosques get bombed, and I have sympathy for any persecuted minority!

I'm simply pointing out and condemning cruelty and torture. I'm promoting love and compassion.

What's the problem?

@SomeRandom
I disagree! In order for me to renounce the bigotry and cruelty in the Bible, someone had to show me how asinine, and psychotic it is that Israelites killed people for working on the Sabbath.

This and other terrible disgusting atrocities in the Bible against polytheists and unbelievers needed to be placed before me in a most repulsive fashion, almost like a dog getting his nose rubbed into something he did wrong. I had to see how disgusting the hate, mass-killings, and bigotry was in order to wake-up and say that's ****ed up!

Suddenly I realized, OMG! I cannot condemn groups like ISIS and defend the Bible. That is HYPOCRISY!

I'm using the same tactics that were used to open my eyes! If i can reach one person, then it's not in vain!
But you are......shall we say, highly spirited? So of course what got through to you is bombast and loud. Most people only retreat or try to defend themselves when confronted like that.
The people who are attracted by such tactics often become the very thing they seek to denounce. I see it all the time. It happened to me. Be careful not to drown in such tactics.
 

Spiderman

Veteran Member
Your topic has nothing to do with this thread, again make a thread, tag me and we can discuss there. I do not wish to further derail the discussion. The subject isn't necessarily about antisemitism.
Also, once again you were proved wrong and lost a debate, but you will never admit you are wrong or apologize!
 

Spiderman

Veteran Member
My problem is your methodology belies your stated intention. It makes little difference what you claim to promote if you must be subversive to promote it. You ruin all faith for me in that instance.
In what context do you use the word "subversive"?

If you are talking about undermining Fascist policies, intolerant Theocracies, and threats to the liberties of millions and millions of people, then guilty as charged!

It's worthwhile to notify people of such errors and undermine barbaric cruelty that is damaging so many people, including the 1.4 billion Muslims drinking such poison!
 

Spiderman

Veteran Member
But you are......shall we say, highly spirited? So of course what got through to you is bombast and loud. Most people only retreat or try to defend themselves when confronted like that.
The people who are attracted by such tactics often become the very thing they seek to denounce. I see it all the time. It happened to me. Be careful not to drown in such tactics.
I don't know about that! It worked for me!

You are a Polytheist. Muhammad said "slay the Idolators wherever you find them". They were the primary target of his wrath!

The Koran bashes and dehumanizes people like you more than Jews, Christians, or anyone.

Polytheists occupied Mecca. Muslims make pilgrimage there to celebrate Muhammad's victory over the Idolators, and the destruction of their shrines, Idols, and all they held as sacred, and the mass slaying of these "Idolatrous enemies of Allah"!

Don't pretend there aren't countless people like you and me living in constant fear, trembling, persecution, and misery, under Islamic Theocracies as we speak. Idolators are a Satanic abomination to Allah!

I don't think that about Polytheists, because I reject bigotry in the Bible as well, thanks to people like me exposing the ugly, disgusting, repulsive, psychotic truth, in a way that i could see how sick and repulsive it was!
 

Spiderman

Veteran Member
That has nothing to do with the OP and is derailing the thread? :shrug:
Not at all.

He's defeated and has nothing to say so he's trying to squirm out of the debate in a last ditch effort to claim the falsehood that it is irrelevant, when it has everything to do with content in the OP.

It's quite pathetic to witness.

Especially after he insults many people here and compares me to a "10 year old parapalegic".

I'm not the one running away with my tail between my legs!
 
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Spiderman

Veteran Member
I find it interesting that the people who come to the defense of dark-aged tyranny in it's most cruel, viscous, brutal forms, are most often non-muslims who cherish equality and freedom, who would be the very targets of persecution in an Islamic Theocracy!

Quite incomprehensible and unfathomable to behold! Never ceases to amaze me?:shrug:
 

Epic Beard Man

Bearded Philosopher
A thread about what? Just reply with a letter or number based on the list, it's far quicker than explaining why you refuse to make an actual point.

The OP said Muhammed was anti-semitic. You said he can't be anti-semitic because he's Semitic.

I said the label is anachronistic and the idea that an Arab can't be anti-semitic makes no sense anyway as 'Semitic' relates only to language.

That has nothing to do with the OP and is derailing the thread? :shrug:

Because I'm not Muslim and because for fear I may misinterpret the text I chose to not go in-depth on the subject.

Muhammad's actions regarding the Banu Quarayza had nothing to do with them being Jewish, the issue concerning the Banu Qurayza is complex and in the story regarding the tribe, they (Banu Qurayza) was originally allied with the Muslims after thier migration from Mecca to Yathrib or Medina. According to scholars, when the Quraysh were closing in on the Muslims in Medina, the Banu Qurayza turned on Muhammad and the Muslims thus breaking their pact with the Muslims. According to Watt, in the book Muhammad, Prophet, and Statesman, the author states "the Banu Qurayza were killed not because of their faith but for "treasonable activities against the Medinan community" (p. 170-176). Watt also notes that the treatment of the Banu Qurayza was "regular Arab practice." So according to these authors the treatment of this Jewish tribe had nothing to do with the fact that they were Jewish, but the fact that they broke a pact with the Muslims who were being hunted by the Quraysh, and were punished. In fact, there are some claims that the execution of the Banu Quraysh was done in accordance to Judaic Law (Torah), however this is disputed. Regardless, the execution of the Jewish tribe doe snot present any antisemitic link to Muhammad. The punishment was in relation to the treasonable actions of the tribe thus not making Muhammad antisemitic. In fact, the Jews were allowed to be judged according to their own law:

"It was the Jews who suggested the appointment of Sa’d Ibn Mu’az as an arbiter. The Prophet accepted their choice. Sa’d applied the Jewish Law of the Old Testament, when he judged in the matter:

” Saad applied to them the Jewish Law of the Old Testament, not as strictly as the case warranted.
In Deut. 20:10-18, the treatment of a city ‘which is very far off from thee’ is prescribed to be comparatively
more lenient than the treatment of a city ‘of the people, which the Lord thy God does give thee for an inheritance’,
i.e. , which is near enough to corrupt the religion of the Jewish people.
The punishment for these is total annihilation: ‘thou shall save alive nothing that breatheth’ (Deut. 20:16).
The more lenient treatment for far-off cities is described in the next note. According to the Jewish standard, then, the Banu Qurayzah
deserved total extermination-of men, women and children. They were in the territory of Madinah itself,
and further they had broken their engagements and helped the enemy."


What does the Qur'an say about the righteous Jews?

“Among the People of the Book are some who, if entrusted with hoard of gold, will (readily) pay it back; others, who, if entrusted with a single silver coin, will not repay it unless you constantly stood demanding,” (Surah 3:75)

“Of the people of Moses there is a section who guide and do justice in the light of truth.” (Surah 7:159)

So to question the answer of Muhammad and antisemitism the answer with facts is an astounding no....

The concept of antisemitism in association with being anti-Jewish is complex considering that the phrase antisemitic, is exclusively related to Jews. The relationship between Arabs and the Jews in the time of Muhammad was more of a relationship between kinsman. Both trace their lineages between Ishmael and Isaac. The commonality that Muhammad saw in the Jews in his time was their common worship of Allah, the One God of all the living and non-living things in the universe. Muhammad believed in their prophet Moses and respected and believed in their law the Torah as he believed it was the book sent to them by God. Although this common respect was religious, Muhammad held political ties with Jews in his time as well and as per Arab custom held their oath by their word.
 
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Spiderman

Veteran Member
Because I'm not Muslim and because for fear I may misinterpret the text I chose to not go in-depth on the subject.

Muhammad's actions regarding the Banu Quarayza had nothing to do with them being Jewish, the issue concerning the Banu Qurayza is complex and in the story regarding the tribe, they (Banu Qurayza) was originally allied with the Muslims after thier migration from Mecca to Yathrib or Medina. According to scholars, when the Quraysh were closing in on the Muslims in Medina, the Banu Qurayza turned on Muhammad and the Muslims thus breaking their pact with the Muslims. According to Watt, in the book Muhammad, Prophet, and Statesman, the author states "the Banu Qurayza were killed not because of their faith but for "treasonable activities against the Medinan community" (p. 170-176). Watt also notes that the treatment of the Banu Qurayza was "regular Arab practice." So according to these authors the treatment of this Jewish tribe had nothing to do with the fact that they were Jewish, but the fact that they broke a pact with the Muslims who were being hunted by the Quraysh, and were punished. In fact, there are some claims that the execution of the Banu Quraysh was done in accordance to Judaic Law (Torah), however this is disputed. Regardless, the execution of the Jewish tribe doe snot present any antisemitic link to Muhammad. The punishment was in relation to the treasonable actions of the tribe thus not making Muhammad antisemitic. In fact, the Jews were allowed to be judged according to their own law:

"It was the Jews who suggested the appointment of Sa’d Ibn Mu’az as an arbiter. The Prophet accepted their choice. Sa’d applied the Jewish Law of the Old Testament, when he judged in the matter:

” Saad applied to them the Jewish Law of the Old Testament, not as strictly as the case warranted.
In Deut. 20:10-18, the treatment of a city ‘which is very far off from thee’ is prescribed to be comparatively
more lenient than the treatment of a city ‘of the people, which the Lord thy God does give thee for an inheritance’,
i.e. , which is near enough to corrupt the religion of the Jewish people.
The punishment for these is total annihilation: ‘thou shall save alive nothing that breatheth’ (Deut. 20:16).
The more lenient treatment for far-off cities is described in the next note. According to the Jewish standard, then, the Banu Qurayzah
deserved total extermination-of men, women and children. They were in the territory of Madinah itself,
and further they had broken their engagements and helped the enemy."


What does the Qur'an say about the righteous Jews?

“Among the People of the Book are some who, if entrusted with hoard of gold, will (readily) pay it back; others, who, if entrusted with a single silver coin, will not repay it unless you constantly stood demanding,” (Surah 3:75)

“Of the people of Moses there is a section who guide and do justice in the light of truth.” (Surah 7:159)

So to question the answer of Muhammad and antisemitism the answer with facts is an astounding no....
Yeah... ignore the fact that the Jews who opposed him were taking a stand against psychopathic tendancies, brutal conquest, Fascist policies, and tyranny in it's ugliest forms!

And let's forget Muhammad's command, "take no Jew as your friend".

Yes, no antisemetism there. No antisemetism involved in decapitating hundreds of Jews! Of course not! o_O

And I'm sure his command to slay polytheists wherever you find them, is also a verse that has context worth defending and justifying!
 

Spiderman

Veteran Member
Because I'm not Muslim and because for fear I may misinterpret the text I chose to not go in-depth on the subject.

Muhammad's actions regarding the Banu Quarayza had nothing to do with them being Jewish, the issue concerning the Banu Qurayza is complex and in the story regarding the tribe, they (Banu Qurayza) was originally allied with the Muslims after thier migration from Mecca to Yathrib or Medina. According to scholars, when the Quraysh were closing in on the Muslims in Medina, the Banu Qurayza turned on Muhammad and the Muslims thus breaking their pact with the Muslims. According to Watt, in the book Muhammad, Prophet, and Statesman, the author states "the Banu Qurayza were killed not because of their faith but for "treasonable activities against the Medinan community" (p. 170-176). Watt also notes that the treatment of the Banu Qurayza was "regular Arab practice." So according to these authors the treatment of this Jewish tribe had nothing to do with the fact that they were Jewish, but the fact that they broke a pact with the Muslims who were being hunted by the Quraysh, and were punished. In fact, there are some claims that the execution of the Banu Quraysh was done in accordance to Judaic Law (Torah), however this is disputed. Regardless, the execution of the Jewish tribe doe snot present any antisemitic link to Muhammad. The punishment was in relation to the treasonable actions of the tribe thus not making Muhammad antisemitic. In fact, the Jews were allowed to be judged according to their own law:

"It was the Jews who suggested the appointment of Sa’d Ibn Mu’az as an arbiter. The Prophet accepted their choice. Sa’d applied the Jewish Law of the Old Testament, when he judged in the matter:

” Saad applied to them the Jewish Law of the Old Testament, not as strictly as the case warranted.
In Deut. 20:10-18, the treatment of a city ‘which is very far off from thee’ is prescribed to be comparatively
more lenient than the treatment of a city ‘of the people, which the Lord thy God does give thee for an inheritance’,
i.e. , which is near enough to corrupt the religion of the Jewish people.
The punishment for these is total annihilation: ‘thou shall save alive nothing that breatheth’ (Deut. 20:16).
The more lenient treatment for far-off cities is described in the next note. According to the Jewish standard, then, the Banu Qurayzah
deserved total extermination-of men, women and children. They were in the territory of Madinah itself,
and further they had broken their engagements and helped the enemy."


What does the Qur'an say about the righteous Jews?

“Among the People of the Book are some who, if entrusted with hoard of gold, will (readily) pay it back; others, who, if entrusted with a single silver coin, will not repay it unless you constantly stood demanding,” (Surah 3:75)

“Of the people of Moses there is a section who guide and do justice in the light of truth.” (Surah 7:159)

So to question the answer of Muhammad and antisemitism the answer with facts is an astounding no....
France is calling for the deletion of antisemetic verses from the Koran after increased hate-crimes against Jews in France!
https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2018/05/france-delete-verses-quran/559550/
 

Spiderman

Veteran Member
Because I'm not Muslim and because for fear I may misinterpret the text I chose to not go in-depth on the subject.

Muhammad's actions regarding the Banu Quarayza had nothing to do with them being Jewish, the issue concerning the Banu Qurayza is complex and in the story regarding the tribe, they (Banu Qurayza) was originally allied with the Muslims after thier migration from Mecca to Yathrib or Medina. According to scholars, when the Quraysh were closing in on the Muslims in Medina, the Banu Qurayza turned on Muhammad and the Muslims thus breaking their pact with the Muslims. According to Watt, in the book Muhammad, Prophet, and Statesman, the author states "the Banu Qurayza were killed not because of their faith but for "treasonable activities against the Medinan community" (p. 170-176). Watt also notes that the treatment of the Banu Qurayza was "regular Arab practice." So according to these authors the treatment of this Jewish tribe had nothing to do with the fact that they were Jewish, but the fact that they broke a pact with the Muslims who were being hunted by the Quraysh, and were punished. In fact, there are some claims that the execution of the Banu Quraysh was done in accordance to Judaic Law (Torah), however this is disputed. Regardless, the execution of the Jewish tribe doe snot present any antisemitic link to Muhammad. The punishment was in relation to the treasonable actions of the tribe thus not making Muhammad antisemitic. In fact, the Jews were allowed to be judged according to their own law:

"It was the Jews who suggested the appointment of Sa’d Ibn Mu’az as an arbiter. The Prophet accepted their choice. Sa’d applied the Jewish Law of the Old Testament, when he judged in the matter:

” Saad applied to them the Jewish Law of the Old Testament, not as strictly as the case warranted.
In Deut. 20:10-18, the treatment of a city ‘which is very far off from thee’ is prescribed to be comparatively
more lenient than the treatment of a city ‘of the people, which the Lord thy God does give thee for an inheritance’,
i.e. , which is near enough to corrupt the religion of the Jewish people.
The punishment for these is total annihilation: ‘thou shall save alive nothing that breatheth’ (Deut. 20:16).
The more lenient treatment for far-off cities is described in the next note. According to the Jewish standard, then, the Banu Qurayzah
deserved total extermination-of men, women and children. They were in the territory of Madinah itself,
and further they had broken their engagements and helped the enemy."


What does the Qur'an say about the righteous Jews?

“Among the People of the Book are some who, if entrusted with hoard of gold, will (readily) pay it back; others, who, if entrusted with a single silver coin, will not repay it unless you constantly stood demanding,” (Surah 3:75)

“Of the people of Moses there is a section who guide and do justice in the light of truth.” (Surah 7:159)

So to question the answer of Muhammad and antisemitism the answer with facts is an astounding no....

The concept of antisemitism in association with being anti-Jewish is complex considering that the phrase antisemitic, is exclusively related to Jews. The relationship between Arabs and the Jews in the time of Muhammad was more of a relationship between kinsman. Both trace their lineages between Ishmael and Isaac. The commonality that Muhammad saw in the Jews in his time was their common worship of Allah, the One God of all the living and non-living things in the universe. Muhammad believed in their prophet Moses and respected and believed in their law the Torah as he believed it was the book sent to them by God. Although this common respect was religious, Muhammad held political ties with Jews in his time as well and as per Arab custom held their oath by their word.
And let's ignore the prevalent Islamic tradition of referring to Jews as:

"the evil fathers of the Jews of today, who are evil offspring, infidels, distorters of [others'] words, calf-worshippers, prophet-murderers, prophecy-deniers... the scum of the human race 'whom Allah cursed and turned into apes and pigs...' These are the Jews, an ongoing continuum of deceit, obstinacy, licentiousness, evil, and corruption..."[3]
https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.or...he-descendants-of-apes-pigs-and-other-animals
 

Spiderman

Veteran Member
We cannot love humanity while at the same time remaining apathetic and indifferent to hate, cruelty, torture, threats to liberty and justice, and tyranny in it's most gruesome forms! It's common sense!

I got a brilliant idea! How about we all condemn psychopathic tortures, mutilation, and killings in the Bible, Qur'an, and everywhere, and I have nothing to argue with you about. It's quite simple basic human decency! ;)

Then we can go back to patting eachother on the back and taking about the weather! :glomp:
:hugehug:

I love you all!

I love Muhammad (Peace be upon him!)

I love my Muslim neighbor!:heart:

I want to see Muslims be free!

I just want them to stop drinking poison is all!:cryingcat:
 
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