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The 'formless god', and the 'Prince of the air': Are you worshipping Satan?

Desert Snake

Veteran Member
Ephesians 2:2
Satan is the 'Prince of the air'. We note this generally, satan rules the principality of the air.
Now, this infers...formless deity. It's a direct inference.

The verses often used to denote a 'formless' god, sometimes are
John 1:18
Matthew 11:27

Note that, in Matthew 11:20,
it denotes that Jesus is talking to specific people, in a specific context. Jesus isn't making a general statement, about God, or the Abba.

Note that in
John 1:15-17
Again, specific people, and the text is not making a general statement, about God, or the Abba.
Note that to interpret either as a 'formless god', is Biblically incorrect, and would infer contradictions, in both cases.
The 'formless god' idea, makes Scripture, nonsensical. For example, God has a throne, is this an empty throne? What would that even mean? If the Abba has no form, do you believe that Jesus, in Spirit form, has no form? Why would Jesus have a form, yet the Abba, have no form?

The teaching that the Abba, has no form, is incorrect, unbiblical, and doesn't even make sense.

 
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Desert Snake

Veteran Member
Note that:
Jesus as God, yet not the Abba
This still infers that God has a form, as Jesus is next to the Abba, on another throne, or, taking the role of the Abba, hence form, again.

Jesus as God, taking the form of the Abba

This infers that Jesus, as the form of the Abba, is the god on the throne, with form. Ie Jesus form.

Jesus as not god, presumably next to an empty throne

Why does God have a Throne, if He is formless? Why is Jesus residing in the Throne of the Abba, if Jesus isn't God?

Jesus as not god, throne is metaphor

Why doesn't the Abba have a form? Why use confusing, or nonsensical description, that contradicts the Bible, to describe the Abba, or God?

Note that in any of these ideas, a formless god, or a formless Abba, or, a formless Jesus, contradicts the Bible, and makes no sense.
The concept of a 'formless god', is completely unbiblical, and can't be justified, without making the Bible contradictory, and essentially generally metaphor, without any clear idea of God, in the first place.
The 'other god', that is presumably, not on a throne, not Jesus, or the Abba, & not Jesus in Abba form, who is he?

He's Satan, the Prince of the air.
 

SomeRandom

Still learning to be wise
Staff member
Premium Member
Read that as the Prince of Bel Air.
Now this is a story, all about how my life got flipped turned upside down.
 

David T

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Ephesians 2:2
Satan is the 'Prince of the air'. We note this generally, satan rules the principality of the air.
Now, this infers...formless deity. It's a direct inference.

The verses often used to denote a 'formless' god, sometimes are
John 1:18
Matthew 11:27

Note that, in Matthew 11:20,
it denotes that Jesus is talking to specific people, in a specific context. Jesus isn't making a general statement, about God, or the Abba.

Note that in
John 1:15-17
Again, specific people, and the text is not making a general statement, about God, or the Abba.
Note that to interpret either as a 'formless god', is Biblically incorrect, and would infer contradictions, in both cases.
The 'formless god' idea, makes Scripture, nonsensical. For example, God has a throne, is this an empty throne? What would that even mean? If the Abba has no form, do you believe that Jesus, in Spirit form, has no form? Why would Jesus have a form, yet the Abba, have no form?

The teaching that the Abba, has no form, is incorrect, unbiblical, and doesn't even make sense.
Ephesians 2:2
Satan is the 'Prince of the air'. We note this generally, satan rules the principality of the air.
Now, this infers...formless deity. It's a direct inference.

The verses often used to denote a 'formless' god, sometimes are
John 1:18
Matthew 11:27

Note that, in Matthew 11:20,
it denotes that Jesus is talking to specific people, in a specific context. Jesus isn't making a general statement, about God, or the Abba.

Note that in
John 1:15-17
Again, specific people, and the text is not making a general statement, about God, or the Abba.
Note that to interpret either as a 'formless god', is Biblically incorrect, and would infer contradictions, in both cases.
The 'formless god' idea, makes Scripture, nonsensical. For example, God has a throne, is this an empty throne? What would that even mean? If the Abba has no form, do you believe that Jesus, in Spirit form, has no form? Why would Jesus have a form, yet the Abba, have no form?

The teaching that the Abba, has no form, is incorrect, unbiblical, and doesn't even make sense.
Exactly why I finally just went full on. I g mask. To keep the devil air out and the pure holy smoke in.
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