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Unconditional Love verses Conditional Rewards
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wandering peacefully
Which way to the woods?
How long do you think it would take to come up with a complete description, accepted by all, of exactly what spiritualism is? We can't get past something as simple as atheism.
But Einstein had a deep love of nature for certain.
Sorry, I still am having random difficulty in navigation.
But Einstein had a deep love of nature for certain.
Sorry, I still am having random difficulty in navigation.
stvdv
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29 jun 2018 stvdv 014 17
I am still too trigger sensitive. But thanks to you I learn and unlearn. My emotions sometimes take me the `wrong` way
I never read Hebrews 4 before. I understand now why you used it here. Word of God like a sharp knife. Just hold on to God's Word.
Thanks for answering so full understanding
Thank you,I was just sort of summing up the way I saw it, not trying to convince you nor capitalize on anything you said.
It was sort of a finalizing.
If one is sincerely searching, they will find. If one finds, they will know. Each one knows what they are searching for. Each one knows what they have found. That's all.
I couldn't put it any better than how it was put in the verse (Hebrews 4:12)
I was merely expressing the way I see it - nothing more.
I am still too trigger sensitive. But thanks to you I learn and unlearn. My emotions sometimes take me the `wrong` way
I never read Hebrews 4 before. I understand now why you used it here. Word of God like a sharp knife. Just hold on to God's Word.
Thanks for answering so full understanding
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stvdv
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29 jun 2018 stvdv 014 18
Spiritual has no connection with religions. It is your own inner quest. So an atheist can be very spiritual IMO.
One on this forum calls himself "I am an advaitist Hindu and a strong atheist."
In case you think how about Einstein: See this picture, him talking with a great indian spiritual teacher
For me spiritual means that I explore my important questions of Life. "Who Am I", "Why am I here", ....
Spiritual has no connection with religions. It is your own inner quest. So an atheist can be very spiritual IMO.
One on this forum calls himself "I am an advaitist Hindu and a strong atheist."
In case you think how about Einstein: See this picture, him talking with a great indian spiritual teacher
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YeshuaRedeemed
Revelation 3:10
Why can't the two coexist?
stvdv
Veteran Member: I Share (not Debate) my POV
You missed my point.
Some said "Unconditional Love does not exist". So I showed both exist [and coexist]
People stating "God does not Love unconditional" were meaning "God grants conditional rewards".
2 different things:
"Unconditional Love" has nothing to do with sex. It is a heart to heart feeling expecting nothing in return
"Conditional Rewards" is just what it is. Has nothing to do with "Unconditional Love"
God will grant you all kinds of "Conditional Rewards", until you demand His greatest Gift "Unconditional Love"
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YeshuaRedeemed
Revelation 3:10
I am so sorry. I have really bad ADD.
stvdv
Veteran Member: I Share (not Debate) my POV
No need to feel sorry for that. You only replied and I only explained. And if you knew why I explained to you, you would not feel sorry at all. I want you to feel good, not sorry. You wrote "Why can't the two coexist". The first thought I had was "I wish she could feel the same in her situation [loving both men and women" [I read your post earlier today].
May God Bless us All
wandering peacefully
Which way to the woods?
For me spiritual means that I explore my important questions of Life. "Who Am I", "Why am I here", ....
Spiritual has no connection with religions. It is your own inner quest. So an atheist can be very spiritual IMO.
Those sound like interesting questions for sure.
Searching for meaning of life sure has a long history doesn't it? So many different positions and ideas on the matter.
For me it's kind of nice just accepting the ride after the many ponderings and wanderings. A peaceful realization that my life is what I choose it to be.
stvdv
Veteran Member: I Share (not Debate) my POV
Those sound like interesting questions for sure.
You say "interesting" which implies a "mental" look IMO. These questions lead you to the highest Self Realization. Much deeper than "interesting"
Searching for meaning of life sure has a long history doesn't it? So many different positions and ideas on the matter.
Yes right, search for meaning of life obviously is important to human. Agreed, so nice that there are so many ideas, all free to pick their favorite
For me it's kind of nice just accepting the ride after the many ponderings and wanderings.
A peaceful realization that my life is what I choose it to be.
Nice you found your inner peace. For me all path are equally good to reach the goal. Whichever makes people happy [not hurting others]
I also found my peace using "Who Am I" and other instructions I learned from my Master and the Scriptures.
Peace to All
My comments about at the start of the thread were a parody and not to be taken literally.
I agree that God's love is not unconditional and He expects us to believe in Him and follow His Teachings.
In regards the return of Christ, the Baha'is have a different theology from the JWs.