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By Any Other Name He'd Smell As Bad
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Father Heathen
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Elaborate?
In most Jewish view and some Christian view Lucifer had nothing to do with Satan but was a title given to an ancient Babylonian king. Lucifer was not the name, it just means 'morning star' (And, in fact, Jesus was called Lucifer elsewhere in the scripture.) Not sure how they mean non-existent. Maybe in the sense that Lucifer was never part of the Hebrew text and was inserted in the pre-Christian century.
Father Heathen
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Google it. I cba to type it on a phone at gone midnight lol.
Earthling
David Henson
A. Devil Greek diabolos, which means "slanderer." John 6:70. Also applied to Satan, as chief slanderer Jude 1:9
B. Satan Hebrew word meaning adversary. First used in the Bible at Numbers 22:22 in application to a righteous angel of God who stood as an adversary to Balaam. When used with the definite article ha it applies to the chief adversary, Satan.
C. Lucifer Latin word for light bearer, from the Hebrew hehlel, which means "shining one." Greek ho heosphoros, “the bringer of dawn” Often mistakenly applied to Satan, is actually applied to Nebuchadnezzar or Babylonian dynasty. (Isaiah 14:3-12) Nebuchadnezzar would be a figurative morning star, the brightest star before dawn, or herald of a new age. The ending of God's Kingdom on earth, until the Messiah.
D. Prince of Darkness Term applied to Ozzy Osbourne
E. Antichrist Anyone or anything against Christ. There isn't just one antichrist.
F. Scratch ??
G. The Serpent Satan used a serpent as a puppet to decieve Eve, so he's figuratively referred to as the serpent.
H. Lord of the Underword Nonsensical reference to the pagan hell. Not a Bible teaching.
B. Satan Hebrew word meaning adversary. First used in the Bible at Numbers 22:22 in application to a righteous angel of God who stood as an adversary to Balaam. When used with the definite article ha it applies to the chief adversary, Satan.
C. Lucifer Latin word for light bearer, from the Hebrew hehlel, which means "shining one." Greek ho heosphoros, “the bringer of dawn” Often mistakenly applied to Satan, is actually applied to Nebuchadnezzar or Babylonian dynasty. (Isaiah 14:3-12) Nebuchadnezzar would be a figurative morning star, the brightest star before dawn, or herald of a new age. The ending of God's Kingdom on earth, until the Messiah.
D. Prince of Darkness Term applied to Ozzy Osbourne
E. Antichrist Anyone or anything against Christ. There isn't just one antichrist.
F. Scratch ??
G. The Serpent Satan used a serpent as a puppet to decieve Eve, so he's figuratively referred to as the serpent.
H. Lord of the Underword Nonsensical reference to the pagan hell. Not a Bible teaching.
He meant Old Scratch.
Earthling
David Henson
Ahh, yes, I do recall that term now that you mention it.
I only know because he is a poster here.
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
Google wouldn't be able to tell me what you meant by nonexistent. They're all arguably nonexistent, depending on the point of view.
Doesn't exist in the scriptures although it's been made out it does. Lucifer was a mistake ignorant people made and called Satan that, because of this weird Christian idea that he's a fallen angel and that passage talks about G-d bringing down a king, whom he compared to the morning star (Venus) which in Latin is, Lucifer, which Jerome left untranslated, and ignorant Christians thought this passage referred to the 'fall' of Satan, rather than the king.