paarsurrey
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They couldn't, they did not, they were unable to convey, they failed to convey the exact words of G-d down to the generations.
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The Bible and Bad Science
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Earthling
David Henson
One at a time. Regarding the Bible on bats and birds.
The Hebrew word ohph, at Leviticus 11:13, in older translations, may read fowl, because at one time the English word fowl applied to all winged flying creatures, not exclusively to birds as it does now.
The Hebrew word for bat is ‛ata·leph.
The Hebrew word for flying creature or fowl (as in all flying creatures including birds, bats, and insects) is ‛ohph.
The Hebrew word for birds in general is tsip·pohr′.
The Hebrew word for birds of prey specifically is ‛a′yit.
The Hebrew word she′rets is drawn from a root word that means to "swarm" "or teem." In noun form applies to small creatures to be found in large numbers. (Exodus 8:3 / Psalm 105:30) In scripture it first applies to the initial appearance on the fifth creative day when the waters began to swarm with living souls. Genesis 1:20
The law regarding clean and unclean things demonstrates that the term applies to aquatic creatures (Leviticus 11:10) winged creatures, including bats and insects (Leviticus 11:19-31 / Deuteronomy 14:19) land creatures such as rodents, lizards, chameleons (Leviticus 11:29-31) creatures traveling on their "belly" and multilegged creatures (Leviticus 11:41-44).
It isn't about taxonomy it is about language and translation.
The Hebrew word ohph, at Leviticus 11:13, in older translations, may read fowl, because at one time the English word fowl applied to all winged flying creatures, not exclusively to birds as it does now.
The Hebrew word for bat is ‛ata·leph.
The Hebrew word for flying creature or fowl (as in all flying creatures including birds, bats, and insects) is ‛ohph.
The Hebrew word for birds in general is tsip·pohr′.
The Hebrew word for birds of prey specifically is ‛a′yit.
The Hebrew word she′rets is drawn from a root word that means to "swarm" "or teem." In noun form applies to small creatures to be found in large numbers. (Exodus 8:3 / Psalm 105:30) In scripture it first applies to the initial appearance on the fifth creative day when the waters began to swarm with living souls. Genesis 1:20
The law regarding clean and unclean things demonstrates that the term applies to aquatic creatures (Leviticus 11:10) winged creatures, including bats and insects (Leviticus 11:19-31 / Deuteronomy 14:19) land creatures such as rodents, lizards, chameleons (Leviticus 11:29-31) creatures traveling on their "belly" and multilegged creatures (Leviticus 11:41-44).
It isn't about taxonomy it is about language and translation.
Skwim
Veteran Member
Bull twaddle. I thought this pathetic canard died out years ago.
fowl (n.)
Old English fugel "bird, feathered vertebrate," from Proto-Germanic *fuglaz, the general Germanic word for "bird" (source also of Old Saxon fugal, Old Frisian fugel, Old Norse fugl, Middle Dutch voghel, Dutch vogel, German vogel, Gothic fugls
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Old English fugel "bird, feathered vertebrate," from Proto-Germanic *fuglaz, the general Germanic word for "bird" (source also of Old Saxon fugal, Old Frisian fugel, Old Norse fugl, Middle Dutch voghel, Dutch vogel, German vogel, Gothic fugls
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Moreover, less than 20% of the 51 Bibles I checked use the word "fowl" in Leviticus 11:13. Most, 78%, use the word "bird."
In any case, it's what today's Bibles are telling its readers is true, and they're telling its readers that bats are "fowl" or "birds."
And it isn't about what an ancient word may have meant or its translation.
What it's all about is what today's Bibles are telling their Christian readers is true: bats are birds.
Exactly what is your Bible telling you is true about bats in Leviticus 11?
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Audie
Veteran Member
Now there finally is a "spiritual truth"!
The term is used to indicate the speaker declaims
from the higher ground of profound wisdom.
See, " early in journey" anc, "much to learn".
(Grasshopper)
If they were so wise you 'd think they'd not
be so dumbstruck and have to hide behind
Arcane and Ineffable.
Our friend has not progessed far enough to
have developed a BS detector, less still to
direct to it the attention of the one easiest to
fool-himself.