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No Saving Grace

Thief

Rogue Theologian
....that your are human

some participants here lean to their humanity
as if such lean is justified before God and heaven

I don't think so
 

wizanda

One Accepts All Religious Texts
Premium Member
No Saving Grace
Zechariah 11:10 I took my staff Grace (Favor), and cut it apart, that I might break my covenant that I had made with all the peoples.

Grace was removed for having murdered the shepherd for 30 pieces of silver, and thus there is no free grace...

Luke 6:32-35 If you love those who love you, what Grace (credit) is that to you? For even sinners love those who love them. (33) If you do good to those who do good to you, what Grace (credit) is that to you? For even sinners do the same. (34) If you lend to those from whom you hope to receive, what Grace (credit) is that to you? Even sinners lend to sinners, to receive back as much. (35) But love your enemies, and do good, and lend, expecting nothing back; and your reward will be great, and you will be children of the Most High; for he is Gracious (kind) toward the Ungracious (unthankful) and evil.

Luke 17:7-10 But who is there among you, having a servant plowing or keeping sheep, that will say, when he comes in from the field, ‘Come immediately and sit down at the table,’ (8) and will not rather tell him, ‘Prepare my supper, clothe yourself properly, and serve me, while I eat and drink. Afterward you shall eat and drink’? (9) Does he Grace (thank) that servant because he did the things that were commanded? I think not. (10) Even so you also, when you have done all the things that are commanded you, say, ‘We are unworthy servants. We have done our duty.’”


Plus we don't get grace for doing as we're instructed or being average, we get grace for being a saint in all action.

In my opinion. :innocent:
 

Thief

Rogue Theologian
and more......
grace means to allow

I leave by your 'grace'
an old way of salute to authority upon leaving to perform

but more to this thread I perceive the moment when I am allowed into paradise
or denied

the human that I am now will not enter the kingdom

to enter into heaven....it is that I belong there

so I seek the grace of spirit
to walk among the angelic with 'grace'
( for it is they who would allow it......if they do)
 
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