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Does Satan have power? How much power does Satan have?

Does Satan have power?

  • Yes, alot of power

    Votes: 4 22.2%

  • No power of his own

    Votes: 4 22.2%

  • Power over the world, but that's it

    Votes: 2 11.1%

  • Power over the non believers, but no power over believers

    Votes: 3 16.7%

  • Satan is gone, etc

    Votes: 1 5.6%

  • Other

    Votes: 6 33.3%

  • Lucifer has power, but Satan does not

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Satan is a pagan god, not real

    Votes: 1 5.6%

  • Satan is another god, equal power

    Votes: 3 16.7%

  • Satan is another god with lesser power

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Total voters
    18
  • Poll closed .
Thief

Thief

Rogue Theologian
it wasn't on the list.......

I always thought Lucifer was God's Favored
at His right hand
and given God's first creation.........light

there was a falling out between them
some argument over something that looks like ......us

the story I got.....one third of heaven agreed with Lucifer
and one third of heaven fell.....losing their positions

they want us dead

what power have they?......deception

the garden event was intended to increase the mind and soul of Man
we need to be that creature curious to know.....even is death is pending

we passed the test
but there was an interference

without ranting much further.....listen
weigh all they you hear
keep what you should
 
EtuMalku

EtuMalku

Abn Iblis ابن إبليس
Thief said:
it wasn't on the list.......

I always thought Lucifer was God's Favored
at His right hand
and given God's first creation.........light

there was a falling out between them
some argument over something that looks like ......us

the story I got.....one third of heaven agreed with Lucifer
and one third of heaven fell.....losing their positions

they want us dead

what power have they?......deception

the garden event was intended to increase the mind and soul of Man
we need to be that creature curious to know.....even is death is pending

we passed the test
but there was an interference

without ranting much further.....listen
weigh all they you hear
keep what you should
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Where would you find this idea?
 
Thief

Thief

Rogue Theologian
EtuMalku said:
Where would you find this idea?
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I grew up with it

somewhere in Psalms......Man was created a little less than the angels
it does not report in what manner

the scheme of superlatives would be my own
bigger, faster, stronger, more intelligent and greatly experienced

I apply this first to God.......the Alimighty
then heaven

somewhere it came to mind.....
I have created Man less than you (angels)
he is fragile
therefore seek after him that he not dash his toe, nor his head

one third of heaven said....Nay!
that Man is less.....he should be made to serve us!

there is nothing wrong with that logic

but one third of heaven fell
they want us dead

two thirds of heaven lost their brothers
they might not care
 
EtuMalku

EtuMalku

Abn Iblis ابن إبليس
Thief said:
I grew up with it

somewhere in Psalms......Man was created a little less than the angels
it does not report in what manner

the scheme of superlatives would be my own
bigger, faster, stronger, more intelligent and greatly experienced

I apply this first to God.......the Alimighty
then heaven

somewhere it came to mind.....
I have created Man less than you (angels)
he is fragile
therefore seek after him that he not dash his toe, nor his head

one third of heaven said....Nay!
that Man is less.....he should be made to serve us!

there is nothing wrong with that logic

but one third of heaven fell
they want us dead

two thirds of heaven lost their brothers
they might not care
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Lucifer has nothing to do with the Abrahamic faiths, he is NOT the Satan found in the Abrahamic myths. He is not mentioned in the Christian bible, but the word 'Lucifer' is used adjectivally as a title or adjective.
 
danieldemol

danieldemol

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
According to my understanding of the Baha’I faith Satan is symbolic of mankinds’ lower animal nature - the will of the flesh, and has as much power as the animal nature has.
 
Thief

Thief

Rogue Theologian
EtuMalku said:
Lucifer has nothing to do with the Abrahamic faiths, he is NOT the Satan found in the Abrahamic myths. He is not mentioned in the Christian bible, but the word 'Lucifer' is used adjectivally as a title or adjective.
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if you have the proper name of God's Favored.....
Keeper of the Light

now is good.....
 
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Desert Snake

Veteran Member
EtuMalku said:
Lucifer has nothing to do with the Abrahamic faiths, he is NOT the Satan found in the Abrahamic myths. He is not mentioned in the Christian bible, but the word 'Lucifer' is used adjectivally as a title or adjective.
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Lucifer is in the Latin christian Bible.
 
EtuMalku

EtuMalku

Abn Iblis ابن إبليس
syncretic said:
Lucifer is in the Latin christian Bible.
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Lucifer as a deity is not mentioned in the Christian bible, but the word 'Lucifer' is used adjectivally as a title. The biblical use of the word Lucifer is personifying the Morning Star of Phoenician/Canaan cosmology.

Lucifer the Roman-Greco deity is mentioned in Publius Ovidius Naso's "Metamorphoses", which was written in 8 B.C.E., the Roman poet Virgil mentions him as far back as 29 B.C.E. And the first mention is from Timaeus by Plato in 360 B.C.E. This Lucifer is also portrayed as a Lunar deity unlike his usual association with Venus.
 
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Desert Snake

Veteran Member
If Lucifer were a "very general title", then we would not say that Lucifer is a Roman god, or some other god.

If Lucifer were commonly understood to specifically or even somewhat specifically, mean the Roman god, or some other god, then it's usage presents the question, as to why they would use it, in that translation, of the Bible.
 
EtuMalku

EtuMalku

Abn Iblis ابن إبليس
syncretic said:
If Lucifer were a "very general title", then we would not say that Lucifer is a Roman god, or some other god.

If Lucifer were commonly understood to specifically or even somewhat specifically, mean the Roman god, or some other god, then it's usage presents the question, as to why they would use it, in that translation, of the Bible.
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Me thinks you need to re-read my post slowly . . .
 
Samantha Rinne

Samantha Rinne

Resident Genderfluid Writer/Artist
Satan's power is only that of self-doubt.

I want you guys to read a few pages of this comic.


http://www.daughterofthelilies.com/dotl/328
http://www.daughterofthelilies.com/dotl/330
http://www.daughterofthelilies.com/dotl/332
http://www.daughterofthelilies.com/dotl/334
http://www.daughterofthelilies.com/dotl/335
http://www.daughterofthelilies.com/dotl/337
http://www.daughterofthelilies.com/dotl/556
http://www.daughterofthelilies.com/dotl/604
http://www.daughterofthelilies.com/dotl/605
http://www.daughterofthelilies.com/dotl/606
http://www.daughterofthelilies.com/dotl/607
http://www.daughterofthelilies.com/dotl/608
http://www.daughterofthelilies.com/dotl/609

Satan can tempt to corruption, but more importantly, is the role as Accuser, to get you to believe you're a bad person. Consider a donut on a counter. I used this analogy before for free will. Honestly, you have a choice whether or not to eat it. But eating donuts isn't part of any moral laws. But your accuser tells you after you've done something that it was really terrible. It's honestly just a donut. Stop beating yourself up.
 
EtuMalku

EtuMalku

Abn Iblis ابن إبليس
Samantha Rinne said:
Satan's power is only that of self-doubt.

I want you guys to read a few pages of this comic.


http://www.daughterofthelilies.com/dotl/328
http://www.daughterofthelilies.com/dotl/330
http://www.daughterofthelilies.com/dotl/332
http://www.daughterofthelilies.com/dotl/334
http://www.daughterofthelilies.com/dotl/335
http://www.daughterofthelilies.com/dotl/337
http://www.daughterofthelilies.com/dotl/556
http://www.daughterofthelilies.com/dotl/604
http://www.daughterofthelilies.com/dotl/605
http://www.daughterofthelilies.com/dotl/606
http://www.daughterofthelilies.com/dotl/607
http://www.daughterofthelilies.com/dotl/608
http://www.daughterofthelilies.com/dotl/609

Satan can tempt to corruption, but more importantly, is the role as Accuser, to get you to believe you're a bad person. Consider a donut on a counter. I used this analogy before for free will. Honestly, you have a choice whether or not to eat it. But eating donuts isn't part of any moral laws. But your accuser tells you after you've done something that it was really terrible. It's honestly just a donut. Stop beating yourself up.
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Me thinks 'I' need a stiff nightcap after that . . .
 
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