Psychics and Christians

Well the church says psychics are of the devil. Christianity teaches it. But Psychics tarot cards crystal balls and the like have become very very popular over the past several years. Considering our country is 70 percent Christian how do you explain the popularity of the occult or unexplained over the past several years?

And then there’s the woman at the well story, where Jesus told the woman all the things about herself that he could not have known. Sounds an awful lot like intuitive divination to me.

Plus, the Bible gives all kinds of directives that we no longer follow, like eating shellfish, for example.

I agree there are biblical examples however the church still preaches against it.

Riders said:

I agree there are biblical examples however the church still preaches against it.

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Mine doesn’t.

Riders said:

Well the church says psychics are of the devil. Christianity teaches it.

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Where?? Lol. The idea of a "psychic" is a rather new one.

Riders said:

But Psychics tarot cards crystal balls and the like have become very very popular over the past several years.

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Tarot and crystal balls are not "psychic".

And Tarot cartomancy comes from Christian mysticism.

Riders said:

Considering our country is 70 percent Christian how do you explain the popularity of the occult or unexplained over the past several years?

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Do you not know about Christian occultism?? Did the Satanic Panic really leave the country with the belief that "occult" always means edgy goths larping at Satan-worship??

Most of the "occult" things today (outside of larping edgelords pretending to be satanists) have their roots in Christian theurgy.

Wouldn't take their word for it. Some just think that anything and everything not associated with Christianity is bad. The same that think you worship the devil even if you worship sumerian gods or hindu gods, belonging to religions that existed long before Christianity or even Judaism or the concept of a devil at all.

Besides, what does one call exorcism, holy relics, holy, water, moses turning staves into snakes, turning water to wine and cursing fig trees. If that is not magic, what do you call it?

One needs to ask WHY do they consider it bad? One can use spiritual power in the name of Jesus or God. Did perhaps Yahweh not want people to learn other forms of magic as well as basically calls it bad while calling his brand "miracles"?

I obviously don't believe its wrong.Just strikes me as odd Texas is conservative and the churches out here clearly preach against it. There is scripture in the old testament that says its wrong and I will get thescripture my sister has talked a lot against it.

I just wondering if this is a sign that we are breaking away from the church,church membership with young people are down way down.

6. Isaiah 8:19 When someone tells you to consult mediums and spiritists, who whisper and mutter, should not a people inquire of their God? Why consult the dead on behalf of the living?

7. Micah 5:12 and I will cut off sorceries from your hand, and you shall have no more tellers of fortunes.

8. Leviticus 20:6 If a person turns to mediums andnecromancers, whoring after them, I will set my face against that person and will cut him off from among his people.

9. Leviticus 19:26 You are not to eat anything with blood in it.You are not to practice divination or sorcery.

Theres alot more on the websight I just saw too.

Riders said:

9. Leviticus 19:26 You are not to eat anything with blood in it

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That sounds like vegetarianism to me [also in Genesis 1:29 vegetarianism is given to human].

People just take from the Bible what tastes good to them. And I think that's good.

And when we stop judging actions or worse humans as "good" and "evil".

Then there would be no violence and I think we have a pretty nice world.

Riders said:

Well the church says psychics are of the devil.

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More often, mere frauds.

But Psychics tarot cards crystal balls and the like have become very very popular over the past several years. Considering our country is 70 percent Christian how do you explain the popularity of the occult or unexplained over the past several years?

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Not everyone here is American. Nevertheless... Nominal self-identification says very little about a person's actual beliefs and values.

The Christian objection to the occult (divination, necromancy, ceremonial magic, new age, et cetera), is that implicit in all these practices is the notion that God can be circumnavigated; the idea that there is 'hidden knowledge' or 'spiritual power' to be gained outside the means and or beyond the extent God has given or allowed to us. Thus the orthodox view is that not only are such practices almost always futile and are therefore superstitious, but also carry at the very least an implicit evocation of the demonic.

In summary, the Catholic/traditional Christian view is that the occult practices are:

1. A violation of the first commandment.
2. Usually futile.
3. An opening of the door to spiritual attack.

Of course... Tarot cards are mere cards (and weren't even widely convinced of as a means divination until the mid XVIII century), ouija boards are little more than laminated pieces of cardboard and the same applies to crystal balls and tea leaves. All inert and meaningless in and of themselves. The sin and danger lies not in objects themselves but in the act of opening up oneself to the influence of spiritual forces one really ought to have nothing to do with. Obviously, the more explicitly satanic a practice it is, e.g. conjuration, the more danger one puts oneself in.

There has always been the spiritual, because God is Spirit, and so are His created beings. So there are spiritual forces and powers, but not all are from God since we know Satan and his followers rebelled against God. And they do have spiritual power since they too are spirit beings with supernatural abilities, and that’s why God tells us not to consult or partake of the occult because the source is from the kingdom of darkness instead of the kingdom of light. But those who are born again christians, who have received the gift of the Holy Spirit can operate in spiritual gifts which can be evidently seen throughout the bible especially in 1 Corinthians 12. Unfortunately most “mainstream" Christianity teaches that those kind of things ceased when the last apostle died, but the bible does not teach that, in fact it says in Joel 2 verse 28 " And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your son's and daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions" and also in Mark 16 verse 17 " And these signs will accompany those who believe: in my name they will cast out demons; they will speak in new tongues; they will pick up serpents with their hands; and if they drink any deadly poison it will not hurt them; they will lay their hands on the sick, and they will recover". Me personally I've witnessed Jesus do some supernatural stuff through people like healing blind eyes, cancers, dead people coming back to life, and much more.

Psychics are a cottage industry, but I'm surprised it hasn't blown into a full religion itself.