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Abrahamic Believers
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Phantasman
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Katzpur
Not your average Mormon
Neither, in my Abrahamic tradition.
so are god and man one?
Katzpur
Not your average Mormon
I believe we are separate in the same way a parent is separate from his child, but that we are more than mere creations. I believe that God is literally the father of my spirit and that I am His spiritual offspring and carry with me a spark of divinity. Mormonism seems to focus on how we are like God more than on how we are different from Him. Obviously, we have a long way to go to become like Him, but we believe we do at least have that potential. Kittens grow up to be cats; puppies grow up to be dogs. And children of God may attain godhood eventually.
ah so you do separate god from its creation. your god isn't omnipresent? but it's spirit is?
that seems to be a contradiction. god is but god isn't. or is god a spirit and of no matter? if no matter then how can your god exist in matter that it doesn't have an attribute of?
Katzpur
Not your average Mormon
There is a temporary physical separation, yes.
I guess that would be a reasonable way of looking at it. Or, you could say that I believe Him to be functionally omnipresent but not ontologically omnipresent. In other words, He has a physical location but has a spiritual presence that extends wherever He wills it to.
Huh? I'm not sure I'm following you. Actually, I'm pretty sure I'm not following you. Would it make more sense if you realized that I believe God is a corporeal Being?
Epic Beard Man
Bearded Philosopher
My soul and my life AND MY EXPERIENCE WAS CREATED BY HIM/HER/IT. I do not separate myself for what God has done.
Cooky
Veteran Member
I don't understand the question.
god is spirit?
John 4:24 God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in the Spirit and in truth."
so then isn't god's spirit in it's creation? it's offspring? so then is the Lord within you? to know the coming of the kingdom of God, isn't that why we are instructed to look inward for christ's coming?
some believe god and self to be separate. who creates that separation? who turned their back on who?
so what god hath joined together in spirit and matter, let no man put asunder?
Cooky
Veteran Member
I thought all Abrahamic believers believed that.
...To suggest otherwise is to suggest that I am God.
namaste
spirit within matter
Romans 8:11
But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.
1 Corinthians 3:16
Know you not that you are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?
the dwelling place of God is within man
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so blaspheme against the Spirit is blaspheme against self? the Lord is within you? he who knows his lord knows himself?
1 Corinthians 6:19-20 [Full Chapter]
What? know you not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which you have of God, and you are not your own? For you are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's.
Katzpur
Not your average Mormon
Yes. And what does this mean to you? What is "spirit" in your estimation?
And what are we? How could we be expected to worship Him in spirit if that's not what we are, too?
Thief
Rogue Theologian
imagine talking to yourself......and only your echo replies
in spirit, it may be possible to be in two places at once
the physical laws might not apply
So....to say ..I AM!
and only your echo responds
the solution is to separate that secondary position by placing it
to a physical location
leave it there til it gels
then come back later to see what stands from the dust
consciousness. ruwach means mind
a state of matter. a state of mind.
then is god separate from self, or self some aspect of God materialized in us?
1 John 4:13 Hereby know we that we dwell in him, and he in us, because he hath given us of his Spirit.
Katzpur
Not your average Mormon
I'm sorry, but I'm really not following you.
allow me to cut to the chase then.
Jesus answered them, "Is it not written in your Law, 'I have said you are "gods"'?
so then do gods worship some other god, or do they worship what is within them and other as self?
do the abrahamic followers worship what is within them? and without them?
if you are the light of the world, do you only worship the light of another, or of all and in all?
if god is not a respecter of person, does that mean god is not a respecter of all?