I don’t think Bible tells the garden was a paradise, but if we are speaking of the garden of Eden, and about the serpent, it was obviously in there deceiving people.
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Abrahamic Eden
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I don’t think Bible tells the garden was a paradise, but if we are speaking of the garden of Eden, and about the serpent, it was obviously in there deceiving people.
the serpent is referred to as cunning. cunning, or wise, isn't usually seen as evil. the serpent wasn't called satan either. jesus was crafty too. in him it's seen as a positive quality. behold i come like a thief.
this is another instance of the separation of god and self. that isn't oneness. that is duality.
it doesn't say that god could have destroyed the serpent. you've interjected something that isn't there. obviously that serpent was afraid of those gods and what they forbade.
being naive, the two wouldn't have known themselves fully because of the illusion of duality. most see contrast as conflict. few see it as defining the other, or catalyzing the other, or potentially the others actual, like yin and yang.
Faithofchristian
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ever heard of the shekinah?
the shekinah is cast down to earth; where transformation takes place..they rejoice in heaven when this happens but the inhabitants of earth tremble in fear because of their darkness, ignorance.
Revelation 12:12
Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.
allow me to introduce you to this serpent again
Job 25:6
How much less man, that is a worm? and the son of man, which is a worm?
Mark 9:8
where "'the worms that eat them do not die, and the fire is not quenched.'
Faithofchristian
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Do you have any idea or clue, what
Mark 9:8 is referring to. All you do is post things, but have no idea or clue what's being said or done.
All you do is Nick pick Verses, But have no idea or clue, what's actually is being said.
Which show your misunderstanding of the bible.
Truthseeker
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You're taking it too literally. It is a symbolic story.
Actually there are about 100 generations between the cross and now so there are about 100 interpolation editions. Sort of like having to read the library of congress to theoretically "understand the bible" nonsense that theology can be. Like "dylan experts". Ha...
Isn't that to be Christian? Lol.. I thought that itself was primary, .. cherry pick reality to fits one's opinion!!!
Yes there is a paradise. It's a mental health facility for urban suburban dwellers. The check them selves in on the weekend. It's called the oregon coast. I live there permanently just because well I need more of it than most!!!
sealchan
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You can't have a good story without conflict.
Our real life experience teaches us that there is no such thing as paradise...its literally too good to be true.
This story is a profound revelation of how new knowledge is experienced by the human psyche.
sealchan
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I live in the Oregon mountains but my wife and I have our eye on the coast.
Every religion and spiritual path has difficulty explaining how a good God allowed (or even created) evil. Some answer the problem by saying evil is an illusion or that evil is actually good if you just view it correctly. And some invent fictional stories.
Faithofchristian
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That all depends on which Christian your referring to, Lol
i believe you mean nit pick.
a single verse can hold a lot of information; especially when parts are ignored regarding tense of the verb.
fyi, jesus cherry picked too. no one eats every cherry on a tree, no does one even eat a whole bowl of cherries. one might eat a handful. one might harvest the whole tree for some other.
here is a cherry that jesus picked from the tree that is full of the spirit
Jesus answered them, "Is it not written in your Law, 'I have said you are "gods"'?
Faithofchristian
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But that verse may not be what you thinking it is.
If you back up to the beginning of the chapter and find out what the subject and Article is about, then go from there.
Haven't you ever done a book report, by finding out what the Subject and Article is about first.
I guess you just pick out one verse in doing a book report, and that's all.
In any books, first you find out what the subject and Article is about first.
Then that leads you to know exactly what the chapter is about.
jesus cherry picked verses through out the torah and other books from the OT that were pertinent to the conversation at hand.
he quoted single verses from isaiah; such as............
In them is fulfilled the prophecy of Isaiah: "'You will be ever hearing but never understanding; you will be ever seeing but never perceiving. For this people's heart has become calloused; they hardly hear with their ears, and they have closed their eyes. Otherwise they might see with their eyes, hear with their ears, understand with their hearts and turn, and I would heal them.
I live in Astoria very nice but wet!!!!!
Faithofchristian
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Your to funny, Jesus never cherry pick Verses, you have no idea or clue about anything.
Jesus knew what verse to use and not to use. Jesus knew what verse would go with the subject he is talking about.
it's better to know what the subject is about, before cherry picking a verse.
By cherry picking a verse, it will take away from what the subject is really about.
All because your adding what you want the subject to be about.
When quoting a verse, how do you know actually if that verse is saying, what you think it is.
That's why going back to the beginning of the chapter and find out what the subject and Article is actually about.
By cherry picking a verse, your taking the verse out of it's context. Of what is actually being said.
sealchan
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We went there last summer to escape the smoke.
Nice town. My mother's grandfather was a Finn who jumped ship in that town back in the day.