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Why I envy retarded people

Spiderman

Veteran Member
So, I just got back from mass and I learned far more from observing a young man who was mentally retarded than from the homily or Scripture readings. When everything got silent during our solemn celebration you could hear this guy making noises throughout the Cathedral, so I think I wasn't the only one who noticed him, and I hope others got something out of his example.

He had a constant smile on his face and appeared so affectionate toward the lady who was caring for him. He needed assistance going down the isle to receive communion and he had an ear to ear smile the whole time, and returned to the Church pew showing most tender affection for whoever was caring for him, It was truly adorable. :greenheart:

I don't know what he's like the rest of the time, but my observation was that he was enjoying the service more than anyone, that he was the happiest person there, that he is easily entertained, that he would not hurt anyone, that he is meek, humble, peaceful, and kind to all people. Of course, I could be mistaken, but that was what I got from it.

His IQ appeared less than that of Forest Gump, but he appeared to be just a great big bundle of joy, simplicity, love, affection, and euphoria! It really spoke to me. Isn't it amazing that such an example could speak to me more than listening to an intelligent educated person with a Doctorate?

Point is, you never know how you could be silently evangelizing the world around you, just by a humble, simple example of joy, peace, love, and a big smile, even if you're too retarded to hold a conversation or say anything intelligible. His face and constant smile said it all. This guy has truly found what we all want. Peace, Joy, Serenity, and euphoria! :heart:

It certainly appeared that way!

Anyway, observing this severely mentally challenged young man spoke to me far more than the Scripture readings or homily, and I wanted to share.

It really makes me wonder what it's like to be mentally retarded...(I'm not, despite my posts sometimes indicating otherwise! :D)

Have you worked with or been around mentally challenged people? Did they inspire you?

We should never consider our lives more important than theirs or think we are better than them. It could be they have what we are looking for.

IQ doesn't in anyway make a person happier or superior to those with a low IQ. I've actually observed the opposite to be true.

I'm going to bet retarded people rarely abuse drugs, rarely commit suicide, don't join gangs, rarely ever kill anyone, don't become military dictators, and don't become serial killers. That's quite telling.


Also, while the educated first-world has the highest suicide rates and democracy is going down the crapper, violent crime and drug addiction rises, these simple people aren't fretting about anything, and enjoying their lives, while many people with a high IQ, Doctorate, sports car, mansion, or whatever, are miserable, addicted to sex, addicted to drugs, killing themselves, or harming others. That's quite telling. I don't think retarded people on average meddle in such matters or desire such things.

I cared for a 90+ year old priest with severe Dementia, spoon fed him, changed his depends, administered medications, helped him shower...he could not hold a conversation but he would often randomly say "Ave Maria" (which means, hail mary in Latin), God's will be done! Help one another!" He would repeat those three phrases consistently throughout each day. Guaranteed this guy had more peace and joy than a lot of us have.

It was truly rewarding work.


Anyway, my hat goes off to the mentally challenged. They possess the virtuous of the beatitudes, and appear more Christ-like on average than the average person with a high IQ and education. In my opinion, these special creatures are Saints. :)
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Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
I remember with fondness several people I know who are retarded with one being an absolute math genius who can put the profession of accounting to shame!
 

Spiderman

Veteran Member
Those "special creatures" are people too.

Prescribing people as virtuous in the way you have above denies that they have agency, and I would argue is somewhat problematic.
People are creatures.

As I said in the OP, this joyful, simple, tender soul really spoke a sermon to me without even knowing it. I pointed out many times, that these are opinions, not necessarily facts, and I'm open to correction, but it seems my post went over your head entirely.
 

Saint Frankenstein

Wanderer From Afar
Premium Member
Mentally handicapped people are on the mental level of young children so it's not hard to imagine what it's like.

I just got back from Mass, too.
 

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
An Indian friend of mine tells me that in the part of India where he's from, people with Down's Syndrome are respected as special people because they are so often loving.
 

Spiderman

Veteran Member
anyway while I was typing out the OP, I was in a computer lab and there was a girl sitting next to me reading the entire thing.

It's slightly embarrassing, a stranger watching me create a post like this, when the only thing somebody knows about you is your envy for retarded people... what a first impression! :D :p
 

Saint Frankenstein

Wanderer From Afar
Premium Member
I'm delighted to hear that you have the Faith again (to some degree!) The Catholic church needs more people like you!:heart:
Pray for me to eventually feel comfortable enough to go to confession, give a good confession and be back in communion with the Church. I miss the Eucharist.
 

Spiderman

Veteran Member
Pray for me to eventually feel comfortable enough to go to confession, give a good confession and be back in communion with the Church. I miss the Eucharist.
You bet I will be praying for you.

For the first time in my life I found peace, and my life has no drama, and I'm near to a cathedral and two Catholic churches. I go to mass twice a day, pray over 20 Decades of the Rosary a day, pray the Liturgy of the Hours and the Divine Mercy Chaplet, and other prayers.

I will definitely keep you in my prayers. You are a very special soul! :)
 

Spiderman

Veteran Member
I accidentally submitted the above post before editing it I'm speaking into a phone so it came out wrong
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
he obviously had severe mental retardation... I don't know what his IQ was
Clinically, IQ is how mental handicapped is assessed, with an IQ of 70 or less being the "line" for an intellectual disability, with a severe case being about between 25 - 40. Less than 25 would be considered a profound case.
 

Spiderman

Veteran Member
How can you tell about someone's IQ by simply observing them at mass?
You make a good point.

Let me ask, if somebody has the appearance of severe mental retardation, and they are making random unintelligible noises, that can be heard throughout the cathedral, while everyone else is silent, would that say something to you about them having a low IQ? At least leave you with such an opinion?

As I stated multiple times in the Op, it was an observation and an opinion that I don't know for sure is correct.

He had the appearance of somebody that could not hold a conversation, and he needed assistance walking down the isle to receive communion.

This all indicates he had very special needs.

Saying he had a lower IQ than Forrest Gump, was just the way of illustrating how severely mentally retarded he appeared, not necessarily the reality.

Yet he had a smile on his face that was constant, and he was very affectionate and adorable, and there was just something very special about him.

He really seemed like a blessing to others, who has a gift that I wish I had.

I want to be more simple, more meek, more humble, more poor in spirit, appreciate the little things in life, smile more, and not fret about many things that are out of my control.

He appeared to have those qualities, and I admire that.
 

Spiderman

Veteran Member
Clinically, IQ is how mental handicapped is assessed, with an IQ of 70 or less being the "line" for an intellectual disability, with a severe case being about between 25 - 40. Less than 25 would be considered a profound case.
I don't even know what they give somebody like this as an IQ test, he seemed to be totally out of this world.

But I could be mistaken of course
 
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