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Why are multiple universes science?

1137

Here until I storm off again
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"Science" in physics has basically math and imagination. It becomes more and more absurd and complex in order to avoid addressing basic flaws in what we've accepted. The increasing evidence for the Electrical Universe is an example of this.
 

james blunt

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"The increasing evidence for the Electrical Universe is an example of this.

There is no flaws in the rational thinking involving the electrodynamics of the universe. However this is limited to a persons ability to understand Tesla and Einstein on a deep level. In understanding Tesla's and Einsteins mind , a person can advance the thinking much further.

Electrical Universe is a poor description and laymen terms.
 

Valjean

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"Science" in physics has basically math and imagination. It becomes more and more absurd and complex in order to avoid addressing basic flaws in what we've accepted. The increasing evidence for the Electrical Universe is an example of this.
As I understand it, Relativity and quantum mechanics are some of the most robust theories in science, and most productive.

What is this Electrical Universe? Link?
 

1137

Here until I storm off again
Premium Member
There is no flaws in the rational thinking involving the electrodynamics of the universe. However this is limited to a persons ability to understand Tesla and Einstein on a deep level. In understanding Tesla's and Einsteins mind , a person can advance the thinking much further.

Electrical Universe is a poor description and laymen terms.

As I understand it, Relativity and quantum mechanics are some of the most robust theories in science, and most productive.

What is this Electrical Universe? Link?

Um, I meant actual electrical universe theory.

The Electric Universe Theory – ►Fact file ►Reference ►Resource ►Articles ►Information
 

tayla

My dog's name is Tayla
Other interpretations include believing the moon doesn't exist unless your looking at it.
I don't think quantum mechanics requires an observer to trigger wavefunction collapse, merely interaction with another particle.
 

idav

Being
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I don't think quantum mechanics requires an observer to trigger wavefunction collapse, merely interaction with another particle.
Yea agreed, the idea of the multiverse is that the wave function is creating actual realities, there are other similar ideas that don’t quite take it as far, perhaps more as potential realities.
 

LegionOnomaMoi

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Why are multiple universes science?

From the physics point of view, though, the question of fine tuning is an added benefit. The *real* issue is the unification of GR and QM.
There is an edited volume from a peer-reviewed series published by Springer (the largest scientific press in the world, I believe) that is unusually non-technical because it seeks to address questions just such as these and apparently the editors wished it to be readable by a large audience or at least an audience not limited to those familiar with (among other things) differential geometry and tensor calculus, infinite-dimensional non-commutative algebras, etc. (some elementary multivariate calculus, PDEs, abstract algebra, and so forth is briefly covered in appendices). In particular, in seeking to correct popular misconceptions about the nature of cosmological multiverse models/theories, we find in the first two chapters of part III of the volume the following:
"'miraculous' features of the standard model that seem to be carefully designed for the existence of life can also be understood if we take the view that we live only in one of the many universes which satisfies the conditions for life to exist."
Y. Nomura (2018) Misconceptions about the Multiverse. In Y. Nomura, B. Poirier, & J. Terning (Eds.): Quantum Physics, Mini Black Holes, and the Multiverse: Debunking Common Misconceptions in Theoretical Physics (Part III: Misconceptions about the Multiverse). Springer.

“Suppose there was only one universe. Then it would be very difficult to explain miraculous features of our universe, such as the structure of elementary particles and the value of the vacuum energy, without resorting to some sort of creator. In the multiverse picture, however, there are an enormous number (10500 or more) of different universes, so some of them possess these miraculous features that lead to intelligent life, without a help of any creator. This, of course, does not prove that there is no such creator, but given that a goal of science is to try to understand our physical nature as much as possible without relying on such an almighty person, the approach of the multiverse is exactly that of science.”
(Ibid.)
 
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