How does the tithe get to God?

Mercy Not Sacrifice · Aug 27, 2006

The Bible says that we're supposed to give God our firstfruits--i.e., our tithe--via the church. But how exactly does it get to him? Is there some special warp device in a back room of churches? Do they have some sort of heavenly teleporter?

Or does it make more logical sense that the money merely passes through the church accounts and make its way to utilities bills, church or civic projects, or the accounts themselves, not visiting any sort of god along the way?

Bishka · Aug 27, 2006

In the LDS Church the tithes go to the building of of God's kingdom via temples, meetinghosues.

This tithing also helps with the less fortuante members as well as lowering the costs of education at Church-run schools.

By this way, we are serving our God. To illustrate this point a little better a scripture from the Book of Mormon:

Mosiah 2:26-17

16.Behold, I say unto you that because I said unto you that I had spent my days in your service, I do not desire to boast, for I have only been in the service of God.

17 And behold, I tell you these things that ye may learn wisdom; that ye may learn that when ye are in the service of your fellow beings ye are only in the service of your God.

Katzpur · Aug 27, 2006

Mercy Not Sacrifice said:
The Bible says that we're supposed to give God our firstfruits--i.e., our tithe--via the church. But how exactly does it get to him? Is there some special warp device in a back room of churches? Do they have some sort of heavenly teleporter?

Well, obviously.

Random · Aug 27, 2006

Mercy Not Sacrifice said:
The Bible says that we're supposed to give God our firstfruits--i.e., our tithe--via the church. But how exactly does it get to him? Is there some special warp device in a back room of churches? Do they have some sort of heavenly teleporter?

Or does it make more logical sense that the money merely passes through the church accounts and make its way to utilities bills, church or civic projects, or the accounts themselves, not visiting any sort of god along the way?

You're being sarcastic, right? Okay, but...

The money finds its way into the Vatican Bank one way or another (if you're Catholic), or it funds the Ministry (for Protestants).

It doesn't "visit God" at all, He is not interested in money. At their base level Abrahamic religions of all kinds are generally about community management (thru record keeping, births/deaths/marriages etc and performing State functions too) and money is of course a vital part of their business.

You cannot serve both God and money, so all the accountants are going to Hell!

lilithu · Aug 27, 2006

Mercy Not Sacrifice said:
The Bible says that we're supposed to give God our firstfruits--i.e., our tithe--via the church. But how exactly does it get to him? Is there some special warp device in a back room of churches? Do they have some sort of heavenly teleporter?

Or does it make more logical sense that the money merely passes through the church accounts and make its way to utilities bills, church or civic projects, or the accounts themselves, not visiting any sort of god along the way?

From Matthew 25:

34"Then the King will say to those on his right, 'Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. 35For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, 36I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.'

37"Then the righteous will answer him, 'Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? 38When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? 39When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?'

40"The King will reply, 'I tell you the truth, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers of mine, you did for me.'

Money from tithes gets to God through what it does for people. And yes, some of it does go to pay the electricity bills and even the salaries of the ministers, which I don't think is unreasonable, because those things are needed to do our work.

At least that how it works in my church. Maybe other churches have heavenly teleporters. Maybe God didn't give a heavenly teleporter to the UUs and lets us do things the hard way because that's how we prefer it.

lilithu · Aug 27, 2006

Godlike said:
At their base level Abrahamic religions of all kinds are generally about community management (thru record keeping, births/deaths/marriages etc and performing State functions too) and money is of course a vital part of their business.

Funny... the buddhist temples that I go to are always accepting donations.

I thought money was something that people need in order to buy food and pay the rent.

verita · Aug 27, 2006

Mercy Not Sacrifice said:
The Bible says that we're supposed to give God our firstfruits--i.e., our tithe--via the church. But how exactly does it get to him? Is there some special warp device in a back room of churches? Do they have some sort of heavenly teleporter?

Or does it make more logical sense that the money merely passes through the church accounts and make its way to utilities bills, church or civic projects, or the accounts themselves, not visiting any sort of god along the way?

Christian were not obliged to give tithe Saint Paul said this to the first Christians in Corinth.
2Co 9:7 Every man according as he purposeth in his heart, so let him give; not grudgingly, or of necessity: for God loveth a cheerful giver.

God bless you all

adlemi · Aug 27, 2006

Mercy Not Sacrifice said:
The Bible says that we're supposed to give God our firstfruits--i.e., our tithe--via the church. But how exactly does it get to him? Is there some special warp device in a back room of churches? Do they have some sort of heavenly teleporter?

Or does it make more logical sense that the money merely passes through the church accounts and make its way to utilities bills, church or civic projects, or the accounts themselves, not visiting any sort of god along the way?

Different churches have different man pastors and they are not the Lord God in the first place. They are the ones imposing tithes and not the Lord God himself considering that they are not united, but rather, they are divided. Money goes to them and to their respective church needs, but the question is, does God ordain them to do such things in His behalf? I am sure God does not ordain anyone to lead any church group and collect tithes in a way that it is being practice now by different denominations. God himself must be one of the direct parties involved in this activity and not just upon the imposition and decision making of men only.

shema · Aug 27, 2006

verita said:
Christian were not obliged to give tithe Saint Paul said this to the first Christians in Corinth.
2Co 9:7 Every man according as he purposeth in his heart, so let him give; not grudgingly, or of necessity: for God loveth a cheerful giver.

God bless you all

I believe Paul was talking about offerings. Tithes are different from offerings.
Tithes is what we have to pay to God, and opens up the windows of heaven. Offerings are what we give aside from tithes, and allows for Gods blessings to come down.

lilithu · Aug 27, 2006

shema said:
I believe Paul was talking about offerings. Tithes are different from offerings.
Tithes is what we have to pay to God, and opens up the windows of heaven. Offerings are what we give aside from tithes, and allows for Gods blessings to come down.

Sorry but just to be clear, this sounds like you're talking about buying entry into heaven (tithing) and buying blessings from God (offerings). Surely this is not what you mean?

PetShopBoy88 · Aug 27, 2006

Mercy Not Sacrifice said:
The Bible says that we're supposed to give God our firstfruits--i.e., our tithe--via the church. But how exactly does it get to him? Is there some special warp device in a back room of churches? Do they have some sort of heavenly teleporter?

Or does it make more logical sense that the money merely passes through the church accounts and make its way to utilities bills, church or civic projects, or the accounts themselves, not visiting any sort of god along the way?

A tithe isn't for God, but for us. Like when Christ was talking to the two groups of people. The first group fed and clothed and otherwised nourished their fellow man, and Christ said that they did it to Him, too. The second group didn't. Tithing is in the same vein. It's a way to help other people, and in the mean time, do it to Him, too.

shema · Aug 27, 2006

lilithu said:
Sorry but just to be clear, this sounds like you're talking about buying entry into heaven (tithing) and buying blessings from God (offerings). Surely this is not what you mean?

oh, of course not, You cannot buy your entry into heaven..I believe that believing in Jesus gets you into heaven. And I believe that thithing shows obedience to God. But offerings bring down blessings to prove to others how good God is.. mal 3:10

verita · Aug 28, 2006

shema said:
I believe Paul was talking about offerings. Tithes are different from offerings.
Tithes is what we have to pay to God, and opens up the windows of heaven. Offerings are what we give aside from tithes, and allows for Gods blessings to come down.

The tribe of Levi known as Levites is designated by God to serve in the tabernacles of the congregation.

God did not give the Levites inheritance of the promise land because they are the ones serving God in the tabernacles of the congregation every time the other children of Israel will give offerings.
Num 18:20 And the LORD spake unto Aaron, Thou shalt have no inheritance in their land, neither shalt thou have any part among them: I am thy part and thine inheritance among the children of Israel.
Num 18:21 And, behold, I have given the children of Levi all the tenth in Israel for an inheritance, for their service which they serve, even the service of the tabernacle of the congregation.

Did God allow the other children of Israel to serve him in the tabernacles of the congregation?
Num 18:22 Neither must the children of Israel henceforth come nigh the tabernacle of the congregation, lest they bear sin, and die.

It is only the Levites who are allowed by God to serve him in the tabernacles of congregation. This commandment is forever throughout the generation of Israel.
Num 18:23 But the Levites shall do the service of the tabernacle of the congregation, and they shall bear their iniquity: it shall be a statute for ever throughout your generations, that among the children of Israel they have no inheritance.
Num 18:24 But the tithes of the children of Israel, which they offer as an heave offering unto the LORD, I have given to the Levites to inherit: therefore I have said unto them, Among the children of Israel they shall have no inheritance.

That is the main reason why God requires the other 11 tribes of Israel to give tithes because their tithe will be given to the Levite by God himself.

This statutes and judgments are called the Law of Moses, which he received in Horeb or Sinai for all Israel.
Mal 4:4 Remember ye the law of Moses my servant, which I commanded unto him in Horeb for all Israel, with the statutes and judgments.

That law ended at the time of John the Baptist.
Mat 11:13 For all the prophets and the law prophesied until John.

Is there any proof on this?
Luk 16:16 The law and the prophets were until John: since that time the kingdom of God is preached, and every man presseth into it.

Which law the Christians follow?
Gal 6:2 Bear ye one another's burdens, and so fulfill the law of Christ.

And the Law of Christ for giving alms is
2Co 9:7 Every man according as he purposeth in his heart, so let him give; not grudgingly, or of necessity: for God loveth a cheerful giver.

Did God Almighty in heaven say that we have to hear or listen to our Lord Jesus Christ?
Mat 17:2 And was transfigured before them: and his face did shine as the sun, and his raiment was white as the light.
Mat 17:3 And, behold, there appeared unto them Moses and Elias talking with him.
Mat 17:4 Then answered Peter, and said unto Jesus, Lord, it is good for us to be here: if thou wilt, let us make here three tabernacles; one for thee, and one for Moses, and one for Elias.
Mat 17:5 While he yet spake, behold, a bright cloud overshadowed them: and behold a voice out of the cloud, which said, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased; hear ye him.

This mystery shows us that we must not listen to Moses or Elias because God said, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased;hear ye him.

Well, if you give tithes up to you, but that is not a commandment for Christians. :shrug:

God bless you all.

lilithu · Aug 28, 2006

verita said:
Well, if you give tithes up to you, but that is not a commandment for Christians.

vertia, the OP did not ask whether tithing was required of Christians. So yeah, up to the individual denomination or person. The question is how such money gets to God.

Willamena · Aug 28, 2006

How does the tithe get to God?

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retrorich · Aug 28, 2006

How does the tithe get to God?

PayPal?

Mike182 · Aug 28, 2006

i offer all of my money to God.... i throw it all in the air, what he wants he takes, and what he doesn't want, comes back down to me

seriously though, i don't give money to my church because i don't agree with many of their projects, so i budget some of my income for charity a local charity to help the homeless.

i concider tithing to be more of a message of "you should realise that there are those less well off than you, and do your part to help ease suffering" as opposed to God wanting money.

i also don't think tithing is only about money, one can donate more than just money to charity and good causes, one can donate ones time and physical help as well.

lilithu · Aug 28, 2006

Mike182 said:
seriously though, i don't give money to my church because i don't agree with many of their projects, so i budget some of my income for charity a local charity to help the homeless.

In my eyes that too is tithing.

Mercy Not Sacrifice · Aug 28, 2006

Godlike said:
You're being sarcastic, right? Okay, but...

The money finds its way into the Vatican Bank one way or another (if you're Catholic), or it funds the Ministry (for Protestants).

It doesn't "visit God" at all, He is not interested in money. At their base level Abrahamic religions of all kinds are generally about community management (thru record keeping, births/deaths/marriages etc and performing State functions too) and money is of course a vital part of their business.

You cannot serve both God and money, so all the accountants are going to Hell!

So then the commands are instructions to fund our churches? If so, how do we know that they have humankind's best interests in mind?

retrorich said:
PayPal?

LOL :jiggy:

verita · Aug 28, 2006

lilithu said:
vertia, the OP did not ask whether tithing was required of Christians. So yeah, up to the individual denomination or person. The question is how such money gets to God.

How money get to God?

Well, during the time of Israel God receives the tithe but he give it all to the Levites as inheritance because they did not inherit a piece of land.
Num 18:24 But the tithes of the children of Israel, which they offer as an heave offering unto the LORD, I have given to the Levites to inherit: therefore I have said unto them, Among the children of Israel they shall have no inheritance.

In the Christian dispensation, God change the law.
Heb 8:7 For if that first covenant had been without fault, then no place would have been sought for the second.
Heb 8:8 For finding fault with them, He said to them, "Behold, days are coming, says the Lord, and I will make an end on the house of Israel and on the house of Judah; a new covenant shall be,
Heb 8:9 not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day I took hold of their hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt," because they did not continue in My covenant, and I did not regard them, says the Lord.

So the law according to Paul is to give alms according to what your heart dictates because God loves a cheerful giver.
2Co 9:7 Every man according as he purposeth in his heart, so let him give; not grudgingly, or of necessity: for God loveth a cheerful giver.

The church receives the alms from Christians and it used solely for spreading the Gospel of God. A Gentile who heard it and accepted the Doctrines in their heart joins the church of God. Once a Gentile have entered the church and became Christian their conscience will dictates themselves to offer thanksgiving to God.
Col3:15 And let the peace of God rule in your hearts, to which you also are called in one body, and be thankful.

That one body is the church and the head is Christ.
Col1:18 And He is the Head of the body, the church, who is the Beginning, the First-born from the dead, that He may be pre-eminent in all things.
1Co 1:2 to the church of God which is in Corinth, to those who are sanctified in Christ Jesus, called out with all those in every place who call on the name of Jesus Christ our Lord, both theirs and ours.

So more alms, more Gentiles hears the true Gospel of God then more Christians offer thanksgiving to God.
Jer 30:18 So says Jehovah: Behold, I will bring again the captivity of Jacob's tents, and will have mercy on his dwelling places. And the city shall be built on her own hill, and the palace shall remain in its own place.
Jer 30:19 And out of them shall come thanksgiving, and the voice of those who rejoice. And I will multiply them, and they shall not be few; I will also glorify them, and they shall not be small.
Jer 30:20 Also their sons shall be as they were before, and their congregation shall be established before Me, and I will punish all who ill-treat them.
Jer 30:21 And their rulers shall be of themselves, and their governor shall come from among them; and I will cause him to draw near, and he shall approach Me. For who is this who pledged his heart to come near to Me? says Jehovah.
Jer 30:22 And you shall be My people, and I will be your God.

That is how the alms (not the tithes) gets to God. So how a tithe gets to God? I dont know but consider this verse.
Rom 16:18 For they who are such do not serve our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches they deceive the hearts of the simple.

I have seen church workers smoking and drinking and they dont have any other job. Their income comes from their church but actually the money came from their poor members. Imagine, a very poor man who is misled by deceivers gives money to their church in hope of eternal life. The money that he gives were paid to so called Pastors or Ministers then they used that money to buy cigarette, alcohol and even goes to gambling dens. So think of what Paul said in Romans 16:18.

So, alms > spread the Gospel of God > Gentiles hear it and join the church > Gentiles became Christian and offer THANKSGIVING to GOD. Through this God is very pleased.

God is very pleased every time the church offers thanksgiving. Just like if you help someone who is poor and he cannot pay you anything. If that poor man offers you by saying Thank you very much. How will you feel? God also feel that same feeling.

The only thing Christians can do to God is to offer him a thanksgiving because he is giving us a gift that we ourselves dont even know.
2Co 9:15 Thanks be to God for His unspeakable free gift.

God bless you.

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