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SalixIncendium

अग्निविलोवनन्दः
Staff member
Premium Member
Just wanted to say thank you for the feedback yesterday on my video about religion.

My question for you guys is, do you believe there is life after death? If yes, tell me why. And if no, tell me why as well but explain to me on how you deal with knowing there is just this life and no other.

I believe temporal 'life' is an experience. I existed before this experience began and will continue to do so after it ends.
 

Altfish

Veteran Member
Just wanted to say thank you for the feedback yesterday on my video about religion.

My question for you guys is, do you believe there is life after death? If yes, tell me why. And if no, tell me why as well but explain to me on how you deal with knowing there is just this life and no other.
NO, there is no afterlife.
Why, a total lack of evidence.
How do I deal with that fact? I make sure I live this life to the full. I do not waste time praying to none existent gods in the hope of eternal life. I instead lead a good, caring and fruitful life, wherever possible helping fellow humans and not harming our planet.
 
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`mud

Just old
Premium Member
A lot of people think there cognizance goes with them,
they seem to think they will be aware, after they're dead !
Someone's going to have to explain something........
Any thoughts ?......or I will move along....
 

Ponder This

Well-Known Member
Just wanted to say thank you for the feedback yesterday on my video about religion.

My question for you guys is, do you believe there is life after death? If yes, tell me why. And if no, tell me why as well but explain to me on how you deal with knowing there is just this life and no other.

"Life After Death" is a statement that requires interpretation.
Life is something that we attribute to living organisms, but it could also refer to 'vitality, vigor, or energy'. Life can also refer to the 'existence of an individual human being or animal'. We can ask the question: Do you believe in Life Before Birth? The point is that we usually think of Life as beginning when you are born and ending when you die.
Death also has various interpretations. The meaning in this phrase seems to be that Death signifies the end of 'life' in the sense of being a living organism (or something to that effect).
So the 'life' that is being referred to as occurring after death could be various sorts of things:
It could be referring to the soul or spirit of an individual, or it could be referring to reincarnation into an organic form (either in this world or another). Or it could be referring to the overall life that persists in the absence of any one particular organism.
I think that we generally interpret the statement as referring to our soul or spirit. So I will answer the question a

The phrase 'Afterlife' can refer to all these things, but often refers to the journey that the soul or spirit takes after it 'sheds the mortal coil' (the particular physical body in which it is said to reside in during the life of a particular organism). But here's where things get complicated, because there is a lot of disagreement about what that Afterlife looks like, that is to say, what the soul or spirit experiences. There are notions of Heaven and Hell, and other sorts of places that a soul may enter or pass through. There is extensive mythology about what happens in the 'Afterlife'. So when you ask if we believe in an 'afterlife', I don't think you are referring to the specific 'Afterlife' posited by a particular religion or myth, but rather the generic notion of an 'afterlife' of some sort.

So, yes, I do believe in 'Life after Death' even if I do not necessarily concur about what that 'afterlife' is.
But I also believe that this particular life we are living is uniquely important or significant. People who believe in an 'afterlife' still have to answer the question of how they deal with the fact that they might not get 'another life just like this one' unless those people who believe in Life After Death really believe that the life they live after this life is going to be just like this life that they are living now... is that what people believe?
 

`mud

Just old
Premium Member
That's pretty close to what I was saying,
When you're dead, it doesn't hurt anywhere !
And you lost your cognition, and your real form,
but......a lot of people believe in this thought process ?
 

1213

Well-Known Member
Romans 3:10 (NET):
just as it is written:

“There is no one righteous, not even one,

I don’t think that means all people in all times, because according to the Bible, some have been righteous. But maybe there is also problem also with the word righteous. It may have two meanings.

And at least there are levels of it, because:

For I tell you that unless your righteousness exceeds that of the scribes and Pharisees, there is no way you will enter into the Kingdom of Heaven.
Mat. 5:20
 

Shaul

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
IMHO if people were more careful how they lived the during life they wouldn’t have to worry about the after life.
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
I don’t think that means all people in all times, because according to the Bible, some have been righteous.
I see no need to assume that apparent Bible contradictions aren’t actual contradictions, so IMO, it could very well mean all people even though some other passage says differently.

But maybe there is also problem also with the word righteous. It may have two meanings.

And at least there are levels of it, because:

For I tell you that unless your righteousness exceeds that of the scribes and Pharisees, there is no way you will enter into the Kingdom of Heaven.
Mat. 5:20
Still works with the assumption that everyone has a righteousness of zero... in a “you can’t help being just as bad as they are” kinda way.
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
I don’t think that means all people in all times, because according to the Bible, some have been righteous. But maybe there is also problem also with the word righteous. It may have two meanings.
And at least there are levels of it, because:
For I tell you that unless your righteousness exceeds that of the scribes and Pharisees, there is no way you will enter into the Kingdom of Heaven.
Mat. 5:20

I find according to John 3:13, ALL who died before Jesus died are still asleep in the grave.
That includes people like King David as per Acts of the Apostles 2:34.
The ' future tense ' is used at Acts of the Apostles 24:15 that there ' is going to be ' a resurrection.....
That future resurrection takes place during Jesus' millennium-long day of governing over Earth.
A resurrection including both the righteous and the unrighteous.
Unrighteous people would include those who did Not have the opportunity to hear of learn about Jesus.
As far as the 'wicked people' are concerned they will be 'destroyed forever' as per Psalms 92:7.
The executional words from Jesus' mouth will rid the Earth of the wicked as per Isaiah 11:3-4; Revelation 19:14-16.
The upright will remain according to Proverbs 2:21-22, thus humble meek people will inherit the Earth.
So, besides those called to heaven who have a first or earlier resurrection - Revelation 20:6; 5:9-10 - the majority of mankind can have the same opportunity to 'live forever on Earth' as originally offered to Adam before his downfall.
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
I see no need to assume that apparent Bible contradictions aren’t actual contradictions, so IMO, it could very well mean all people even though some other passage says differently.
Still works with the assumption that everyone has a righteousness of zero... in a “you can’t help being just as bad as they are” kinda way.

Agree, that we all have a righteousness of zero, but according to Scripture Jesus counts some as righteous.
For example: In the illustration of the sheep and goats the figurative sheep of Matthew 25:37,40 are counted as righteous ones. So, although we all learn toward wrongdoing, Jesus' ransom paid the price for us.
So, we all have the freedom to try to act responsibly toward God as Jesus did.
 

1213

Well-Known Member
I find according to John 3:13, ALL who died before Jesus died are still asleep in the grave.

That includes people like King David as per Acts of the Apostles 2:34.

The tombs were opened, and many bodies of the saints who had fallen asleep were raised;
Matt. 27:52

That seems to oppose what you said.
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
The tombs were opened, and many bodies of the saints who had fallen asleep were raised;
Matt. 27:52
That seems to oppose what you said.

On the surface it does seem to oppose.
Perhaps you remember Jesus was Not resurrected the day he died_______ - Acts of the Apostles 2:27.
Do you agree with Colossians 1:18 that Jesus was firstborn from the dead _______
Please also see 1 Corinthians 15:20 and 1 Corinthians 15:23.
So, the graves of Matthew 27:52 that were exposed because of the earthquake were exposing dead corpses.
So, the people who came out of the graves ( cemetery ) of verse 53 were living people who came out ' after ' Jesus was later resurrected.

Matthew 27:52 is like an end to a sentence, end of a line of thought or information.
Matthew 27:53 is like starting a new sentence, a new line of thought about a different day.
So, verse 53 is like an insert about a different day, or as it says ' after Jesus' resurrection '.
 

`mud

Just old
Premium Member
After life
....the resurrection.....after death; was it ?
He hadn't reached heaven yet, had he ?
Where was he, before he became Him,
and the ghost was where; on the throne ?
I guess that pergatory held him,
with his sandals a foot.
And then....He arose as the Trinity.
After Life !
 

Religious questioner

One of the wise
Just wanted to say thank you for the feedback yesterday on my video about religion.

My question for you guys is, do you believe there is life after death? If yes, tell me why. And if no, tell me why as well but explain to me on how you deal with knowing there is just this life and no other.



Thats a wonderful proposition, like one said before, nobdoy can willingly test out and see that, to know that matter is very special, but I do believe in afterlife wanna know why? Because whom believes in god must believe in the opposite of life? And the holdings and abilities it can hold, Death just might always be a mystery forever, but afterlife could take longer, thank you for using your time to write this :)
 

England my lionheart

Rockerjahili Rebel
Premium Member
There is obviously no evidence of an afterlife but if there was you could hang out with some cool people although how would our early ancestors like Lucy or neanderthals deal with it.
 

DanishCrow

Seeking Feeds
As a practicioner of norse shamanism, I have gone beyond death and visited my own former lives. This is evidence enough for me that there are more lives to come.

Just wanted to say thank you for the feedback yesterday on my video about religion.

My question for you guys is, do you believe there is life after death? If yes, tell me why. And if no, tell me why as well but explain to me on how you deal with knowing there is just this life and no other.
 

1213

Well-Known Member


Do you agree with Colossians 1:18 that Jesus was firstborn from the dead _______

Yes, but first born usually means in the Bible, first in rank, not necessary first in a row.

Please also see 1 Corinthians 15:20 and 1 Corinthians 15:23.

“He became the first fruit... “ is not necessary that he was the first, it can mean he was among the first. After all, if we harvest fruits, it is not the one single fruit that is counted, but all of those that are gathered first.

So, the graves of Matthew 27:52 that were exposed because of the earthquake were exposing dead corpses.

Maybe it can be seen as death bodies rising. I believe and understand it means they were not dead anymore.
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
As a practicioner of norse shamanism, I have gone beyond death and visited my own former lives. This is evidence enough for me that there are more lives to come.
"Gone beyond death" in what way?

Are you talking about some sort of ritual?
 

viole

Ontological Naturalist
Premium Member
Just wanted to say thank you for the feedback yesterday on my video about religion.

My question for you guys is, do you believe there is life after death? If yes, tell me why. And if no, tell me why as well but explain to me on how you deal with knowing there is just this life and no other.

I think that life after death is (apart from being oxymoronic) as plausible as life before birth, or before conception, if you are a Catholic.

Ciao

- viole
 
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