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Creation vs evolution

Faithofchristian

Well-Known Member
Even if there are accurate prophesies, Genesis is not therefore shown to be accurate. You need to produce evidence from reality to support creationism, not ancient fables.

My evidence is right there in Genesis.
Look, as a Christian i go to the Bible for my source of information and you go to scientist.
If was to say to you, can you prove anything without going to or referring to the scientific world. For your evidence so how are you going to prove anything without referring to the scientific world.
Or using anything from there or them.

So by all means, explain exactly in your own words about evolution. But remember the minute you say anything that is reference to the scientific world, I will stop you, I don't want to hear what they have to say no, I want it in your own words and not what others will say. Now can you do that ?
 

`mud

Just old
Premium Member
And from the sand came prophesy.....the sky is falling,
:shrug:
where's my tinfoil hat !!!.......
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Maybe that's because I am not like other Christians.have you thought about that and I am not alone. There are others and were growing in numbers.
And that to is Prophecy in the Bible being fulfilled. Have you read the book of Revelation or what Jesus has said in the books of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John.

In all those books they are describing exactly the world that we are living in to
the T.
Look around you at all the violence that is taking place, earthquakes, people killing people, Nations against Nations. Wars and rumors of War, All as Jesus fortold in Prophecy in the Books of Matthew 24, Mark 13, Luke 21 and the book of Revelation. But as Jesus fortold,
People would be going about business as usual. Not even realizing what is happening around them.
You are merely reinterpreting the Bible to fit today's events. Didn't I predict that? I guess that makes me a biblical prophet;)
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
My evidence is right there in Genesis.
Look, as a Christian i go to the Bible for my source of information and you go to scientist.
If was to say to you, can you prove anything without going to or referring to the scientific world. For your evidence so how are you going to prove anything without referring to the scientific world.
Or using anything from there or them.

So by all means, explain exactly in your own words about evolution. But remember the minute you say anything that is reference to the scientific world, I will stop you, I don't want to hear what they have to say no, I want it in your own words and not what others will say. Now can you do that ?
Once again you make the error of calling the sky green. You should be trying to learn why we know hat Genesis is mere myth.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Well it's evidence that you don't have a clue about Tyre, how do you know for sure that's even the same, is there a sign saying the city of Tyre.

I obviously know far more about Tyre than you do. First off of course there will not be sign saying "the city of Tyre". Tyre is the anglicized version of the name of that city. The history of the area is well know and well understood. It is clear that once again you do not understand the Bible. I can help you on this matter.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
Once again you make the error of calling the sky green. You should be trying to learn why we know hat Genesis is mere myth.

Point of note, i cant remembered where precisely, one of the south sea islands, the sky is green. The inhabitants have no word for blue.
Blue–green distinction in language - Wikipedia

In pre-Christian times the sky in Greece was bronze, their colour perception was far different from ours.
Ancient Greek Color Vision | Serendip Studio
 

Faithofchristian

Well-Known Member
I obviously know far more about Tyre than you do. First off of course there will not be sign saying "the city of Tyre". Tyre is the anglicized version of the name of that city. The history of the area is well know and well understood. It is clear that once again you do not understand the Bible. I can help you on this matter.

As to where do you get that Tyre, was destroyed never found again ?

You do know, Jesus talk about Tyre, "But I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for Tyre and Sidon at the day of judgment , than for you" Matthew 11:22.

You do know, what that day of judgment is. When Tyre and Sidon shall be judge ?
That's when Jesus returns at his 2nd coming, and then Tyre and Sidon shall be Judge.
So how is it you say, that Tyre was destroyed and never to be found again.

Note in the book Acts 12:20--"And Herod was highly displeased with them of Tyre and Sidon"
Acts 21:7--"And when we had finished our course from Tyre"

Oh Waite did you notice that ?

So how is it you say, that Tyre was destroyed and never to be found again.

You do know that Tyre is also called Tyrus.

Jeremiah 25:22--"And all the kings of Tyrus

Once again, you proven yourself of not knowing or understanding what the Bible confirms.
But I would like to know how you came by that Tyre was destroyed and never to found again. Who told you this or how did you come by it ?
 
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Looncall

Well-Known Member
My evidence is right there in Genesis.
Look, as a Christian i go to the Bible for my source of information and you go to scientist.
If was to say to you, can you prove anything without going to or referring to the scientific world. For your evidence so how are you going to prove anything without referring to the scientific world.
Or using anything from there or them.

So by all means, explain exactly in your own words about evolution. But remember the minute you say anything that is reference to the scientific world, I will stop you, I don't want to hear what they have to say no, I want it in your own words and not what others will say. Now can you do that ?

Bah, science works from factual observation, religion from superstition. Evolution is a matter of science: your challenge is a dishonest dodge.

In any case, evolution is just a simple algorithm: if you have replication with variation and selection, you will have change through time. It does not matter what milieu this happens in.
 

Faithofchristian

Well-Known Member
Bah, science works from factual observation, religion from superstition. Evolution is a matter of science: your challenge is a dishonest dodge.

In any case, evolution is just a simple algorithm: if you have replication with variation and selection, you will have change through time. It does not matter what milieu this happens in.

Nope, you go to science, for your source of information and I go to the Bible for my source of information.

Where do you think a Christian would go other than the bible, for their source of information.
 

Skwim

Veteran Member
Where do you think a Christian would go other than the bible, for their source of information.
Well, let's see.

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source

Hmmm. It appears that 44% of them don't go to the Bible when it comes to the origin of humans.

.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
As to where do you get that Tyre, was destroyed never found again ?

From the Tyre prophesy. This rather amazing, you should not accuse others of not understanding the Bible when your own knowledge is so lacking:

Bible Gateway passage: Ezekiel 26 - New International Version

You do know, Jesus talk about Tyre, "But I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for Tyre and Sidon at the day of judgment , than for you" Matthew 11:22.

You do know, what that day of judgment is. When Tyre and Sidon shall be judge ?
That's when Jesus returns at his 2nd coming, and then Tyre and Sidon shall be Judge.
So how is it you say, that Tyre was destroyed and never to be found again.

Note in the book Acts 12:20--"And Herod was highly displeased with them of Tyre and Sidon"
Acts 21:7--"And when we had finished our course from Tyre"

Oh Waite did you notice that ?

So how is it you say, that Tyre was destroyed and never to be found again.

You do know that Tyre is also called Tyrus.

Jeremiah 25:22--"And all the kings of Tyrus

Once again, you proven yourself of not knowing or understanding what the Bible confirms.
But I would like to know how you came by that Tyre was destroyed and never to found again. Who told you this or how did you come by it ?
As to where do you get that Tyre, was destroyed never found again ?

You do know, Jesus talk about Tyre, "But I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for Tyre and Sidon at the day of judgment , than for you" Matthew 11:22.

You do know, what that day of judgment is. When Tyre and Sidon shall be judge ?
That's when Jesus returns at his 2nd coming, and then Tyre and Sidon shall be Judge.
So how is it you say, that Tyre was destroyed and never to be found again.

Note in the book Acts 12:20--"And Herod was highly displeased with them of Tyre and Sidon"
Acts 21:7--"And when we had finished our course from Tyre"

Oh Waite did you notice that ?

So how is it you say, that Tyre was destroyed and never to be found again.

You do know that Tyre is also called Tyrus.

Jeremiah 25:22--"And all the kings of Tyrus

Once again, you proven yourself of not knowing or understanding what the Bible confirms.
But I would like to know how you came by that Tyre was destroyed and never to found again. Who told you this or how did you come by it ?

Yes, pretty much everyone knew that the Tyre prophesy failed. Yet it was still in the Bible. What is your excuse?
 

Looncall

Well-Known Member
Nope, you go to science, for your source of information and I go to the Bible for my source of information.

Where do you think a Christian would go other than the bible, for their source of information.

I hope that honest Christians would pay attention to reality and not be conned by the oogity-boogity balderdash peddled by clerics.
 

Faithofchristian

Well-Known Member
From the Tyre prophesy. This rather amazing, you should not accuse others of not understanding the Bible when your own knowledge is so lacking:

Bible Gateway passage: Ezekiel 26 - New International Version




Yes, pretty much everyone knew that the Tyre prophesy failed. Yet it was still in the Bible. What is your excuse?


How is it that you and others, Can consider a Prophecy to be a failed Prophecy, When the Prophecy hasn't happened Yet?
Now that's amazing.
So How you can consider a Prophecy that hasn't happened Yet, to be a failed Prophecy Go Figure

In Ezekiel Chapter 26, this Prophecy is still future from us to day. So how is it that you consider Chapter 26, to be a failed Prophecy, when it hasn't happened Yet.


Why do you suppose Christ Jesus said in Matthew 11:22--"But I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for Tyre and Sidon at the day of judgment, than for you"
Well it's very obvious that the Prophecy of Tyre hasn't happened yet, not until the day of judgment, which is still future from us.

If you study out history, you would find there were two kings that went to conquer Tyrus,
King Nebuchadrezzar king of Babylon and king Alexander the great.
That where once Tyrus was a great sea port back before king Nebuchadrezzar and king Alexander the great had conquered Tyrus.
That to day Tyrus is still there, but not the great sea port that it once was.

But for Tyrus itself will be taken down at the day of judgment, which is still future from us to day.

Why is it that your having such a hard time in figuring out that 2+2 equal's 4, which is just simple math.

That the Prophecy of Tyrus hasn't happened Yet, not until at the day of judgment which is still future from us to day.
So how is it, that you call a Prophecy that hasn't happened Yet, a failed Prophecy.
Which is still future from us to day.

So maybe before you grab hold of Chapter 26, you should put all the rest of the preceding chapters in Ezekiel together and the book of Revelation, and see where Tyrus stands in Prophecy. That is Yet to be fulfilled at the day of judgment, which is still future from us to day.

You seem to think that you know everything about Prophecy, So by all means do tell, who will be found as the king of Tyrus and Babylon in the book of Revelation, Which is still future from us to day ?
 
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Faithofchristian

Well-Known Member
I hope that honest Christians would pay attention to reality and not be conned by the oogity-boogity balderdash peddled by clerics.


Maybe before you say anything, you should find out about that person, You think.

Look I do not belong to any church, all because those people set back and are told what, when to believe something. Which is like being a programmed robot.

Unto which I am not a part of. Thank you
 
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