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Christ Has returned, what should have we looked for?

Are you awaiting Christ's return?

  • Yes

    Votes: 10 17.2%
  • No

    Votes: 34 58.6%
  • Maybe

    Votes: 1 1.7%
  • I'm Fence sitting

    Votes: 2 3.4%
  • Just a popcorn question

    Votes: 2 3.4%
  • Definitly never

    Votes: 8 13.8%
  • He has Come

    Votes: 10 17.2%

  • Total voters
    58

CG Didymus

Veteran Member
This passage tells us we must turn to Jesus Christ and I have said every Baha'i confesses of Jesus the Christ to the Father, 'Baha'u'llah', the 'Glory of God'.

Jesus the Christ said He would return with a New Name.

'Glory of God' is the English translation of Baha'u'llah, the Father.

You have now asked this question many times the answer has been given and proved correct. I will make no more reference to this aspect.

Regards Tony
Is "The Father" God? Or, Baha'u'llah? 'Cause when Jesus and Christians use the word "Father" they mean God (whatever his real name is), not a "manifestation" of God that is using "The Father" as a title.
 

CG Didymus

Veteran Member
I hope you never use the word 'Christ' when referring to Jesus then.

Personally I know Jesus as 'Christ', as this is the Name Peter said Jesus was and 'Christ' said Peter was correct.

Regards Tony
There were many "Christs" or "anointed ones". Was there one that was going to take the title "The Christ" or "The Messiah" that would given only to him?
 

TransmutingSoul

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Is "The Father" God? Or, Baha'u'llah? 'Cause when Jesus and Christians use the word "Father" they mean God (whatever his real name is), not a "manifestation" of God that is using "The Father" as a title.

The Father is reference to God Speaking through Baha'u'llah.

God is above all Names. All references to the Last Days, the Day of God is to the Revelation of Baha'u'llah, the "Glory of God" in the Station of the Father as Christ came in the Station of Son.

Christ says I go to the Father and the Father is greater than I. Christ becomes the Father, just as a Son becomes a Father and the Father imparts more wisdom.

It is God speaking through all the Names.

We can not see God or Hear His voice but throught the Manifestations.

Regards Tony
 

TransmutingSoul

Veteran Member
Premium Member
There were many "Christs" or "anointed ones". Was there one that was going to take the title "The Christ" or "The Messiah" that would given only to him?

There was one Jesus the Christ. But remember Christ said I am the First and the Last. Again a reference to the same Holy Spirit in each of God's Mesengers.

Regards Tony
 

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
If you guys just admit you were part of the Gentiles [read Acts 15], and not of the Jews or insist were part of the 12 tribes of Israel, and just accept Christ as your ONLY saviour, the only Messiah of the God/Jehovah [NOT the NO NAME ullah/allah] of the Bible, then you don't need to alter what's in the Bible. You don't have to update your doctrine persistently.
If you would just accept that Baha’u’llah was the return of the Christ Spirit and the Representative of God among men, then you would not need to alter the meaning of what is in the Bible.

“Know assuredly that just as thou firmly believest that the Word of God, exalted be His glory, endureth for ever, thou must, likewise, believe with undoubting faith that its meaning can never be exhausted. They who are its appointed interpreters, they whose hearts are the repositories of its secrets, are, however, the only ones who can comprehend its manifold wisdom. Whoso, while reading the Sacred Scriptures, is tempted to choose therefrom whatever may suit him with which to challenge the authority of the Representative of God among men, is, indeed, as one dead, though to outward seeming he may walk and converse with his neighbors, and share with them their food and their drink.”
Gleanings From the Writings of Bahá’u’lláh, pp. 175-176
 

TransmutingSoul

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Jesus never said that.

Revelation:1"This is the revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave Him to show His servants what must soon come to pass. He made it known by sending His angel to His servant John, 2who testifies to everything he saw. This is the word of God and the testimony of Jesus Christ.…

........Revelation 22:12“Behold, I am coming quickly, and My reward is with Me, to give to each person according to what he has done. 13I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End.” 14Blessed are those who wash their robes, so that they may have the right to the tree of life and may enter the city by its gates.…"

Notice we enter by the Gate (Bab), since it is plural it may also mean Muhammad and Ali, the Two Witnesses in Revelation as well.

It ties into Baha'u'llah, the Lord of Hosts;

Isaiah 44:6"Thus says the LORD, the King of Israel and his Redeemer, the LORD of hosts: 'I am the first and I am the last, And there is no God besides Me."

Regards Tony
 
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Neb

Active Member
If you would just accept that Baha’u’llah was the return of the Christ Spirit and the Representative of God among men, then you would not need to alter the meaning of what is in the Bible.
Again for the 10-15 times, ahem, ahem, ahem! The word baha-ullah/allah/allat or the "glory of ullah/allah/allat", is a NO NAME god/s or it does not relate in any way to the true God of the Bible, i.e., Jehovah. Christianity does not belong to any interfaith movement or in this case to “Chrislam”. If a Christian says s/he worships the same God as Islam it’s because of political pressure or correctness so just not to offend Muslims, but do Muslims says the same thing? No, they don’t!

“Discerning Christians and Muslims already acknowledge the differences in faith, the differences in the gods they serve, and the differences in the names of those gods. Accepting the same name for two different gods as part of “political correctness” accelerates the onset of Chrislam efforts, increases the likelihood of apostasy, ignores the historical truth, and denies the reality of the two largest religions asserting competing truth claims.”

“It is better to be divided by truth than united in error.” – Martin Luther
 

Muffled

Jesus in me
Simon the Stumbling Stone

The Gospel of John could have been written by John Nicodemus the Pharisee High Counselor, as only he would have known the data contained in all instances recorded within it.

In my opinion. :innocent:

I believe you should say whether you think Nicodemus lay his head on Jesus at the last Passover meal for Jesus.

I believe the Holy Spirit tends to relieve hard headedness.
 

Muffled

Jesus in me
'Glory of God' or 'Glory of the Lord' is Arabic Baha'u'llah.

No twist needed.

Jehovah, Yahwah is also the 'Glory of God', both known as the 'Greatest Name' of God.

Baha'u'llah has given an answer to you;

"..One and all, they shall arise with all their power to resist His Cause. Then shall the knights of the Lord, assisted by His grace from on high, strengthened by faith, aided by the power of understanding, and reinforced by the legions of the Covenant, arise and make manifest the truth of the verse: ‘Behold the confusion that hath befallen the tribes of the defeated!’”

Every time you now read your Bible, you will now know that the 'Glory of God', Baha'u'llah has come.

Regards Tony

I believe he thought he was cool naming himself that (not his birth name) but it would have meant something if he actually exemplified that.

I believe that is not in the least likely to happen.
 

Neb

Active Member
You do as you must Neb, but our conversations have been completed.

I wish you a well and happy life.

Regards Tony
Why, you run out of cutting and pasting
I hope you never use the word 'Christ' when referring to Jesus then.

Personally I know Jesus as 'Christ', as this is the Name Peter said Jesus was and 'Christ' said Peter was correct.

Regards Tony
"While the Pharisees were gathered together, Jesus asked them," -Matthew 22:41
“What do you think about the Christ? Whose son is he?” -Matthew 22:42
“The son of David,” they replied. He said to them, “How is it then that David, speaking by the Spirit, calls him ‘Lord’? For he says, --Matthew 22:43
“ ‘The Lord said to my Lord: “Sit at my right hand until I put your enemies under your feet.” ’ -Matthew 22:44
"If then David calls him ‘Lord,’ how can he be his son?” -Matthew 22:45
"No one could say a word in reply, and from that day on no one dared to ask him any more questions. -Matthew 22:46

So, what is it that they, the Pharisees, did not understand?
 

Muffled

Jesus in me
Again for the 10-15 times, ahem, ahem, ahem! The word baha-ullah/allah/allat or the "glory of ullah/allah/allat", is a NO NAME god/s or it does not relate in any way to the true God of the Bible, i.e., Jehovah. Christianity does not belong to any interfaith movement or in this case to “Chrislam”. If a Christian says s/he worships the same God as Islam it’s because of political pressure or correctness so just not to offend Muslims, but do Muslims says the same thing? No, they don’t!

“Discerning Christians and Muslims already acknowledge the differences in faith, the differences in the gods they serve, and the differences in the names of those gods. Accepting the same name for two different gods as part of “political correctness” accelerates the onset of Chrislam efforts, increases the likelihood of apostasy, ignores the historical truth, and denies the reality of the two largest religions asserting competing truth claims.”

“It is better to be divided by truth than united in error.” – Martin Luther

I believe you are in error as are the Muslims because it is the same God. It just shows you don't know Him very well.
 

Neb

Active Member
This passage tells us we must turn to Jesus Christ and I have said every Baha'i confesses of Jesus the Christ to the Father, 'Baha'u'llah', the 'Glory of God'.
The "glory 'u' allah/god" or baha 'u' allah/god is NOT the same as the God of the Bible.
Jesus the Christ said He would return with a New Name.
Why are you lying to your fellow members of the bahai faith? Christ did NOT say that at all. Show me a verse in the Bible that says, "He would return with a New Name"
'Glory of God' is the English translation of Baha'u'llah, the Father.

You have now asked this question many times the answer has been given and proved correct. I will make no more reference to this aspect.

Regards Tony[/QUOTE]
John 8:42 Jesus said to them, “If God were your Father, you would love me, for I came from God and now am here. I have not come on my own; but he sent me.
John 8:43 Why is my language not clear to you? Because you are unable to hear what I say.
John 8:44 You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desire. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.
 

Neb

Active Member
I believe you are in error as are the Muslims because it is the same God. It just shows you don't know Him very well.
If Jehovah and Allah are the same God then why they have different teachings?
Read this verses anyway.

1John 4:1 Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.
1John 4:2 This is how you can recognize the Spirit of God: Every spirit that acknowledges that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God,
1John 4:3 but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world.
 

oldbadger

Skanky Old Mongrel!
Revelation:1"This is the revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave Him to show His servants what must soon come to pass. He made it known by sending His angel to His servant John, 2who testifies to everything he saw. This is the word of God and the testimony of Jesus Christ.…

........Revelation 22:12“Behold, I am coming quickly, and My reward is with Me, to give to each person according to what he has done. 13I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End.” 14Blessed are those who wash their robes, so that they may have the right to the tree of life and may enter the city by its gates.…"

Notice we enter by the Gate (Bab), since it is plural it may also mean Muhammad and Ali, the Two Witnesses in Revelation as well.

It ties into Baha'u'llah, the Lord of Hosts;

Isaiah 44:6"Thus says the LORD, the King of Israel and his Redeemer, the LORD of hosts: 'I am the first and I am the last, And there is no God besides Me."

Regards Tony
Ahhhhhh!
John's Revelation............ !
I wonder how many mushrooms he ate on that particular day.
And Jesus never spoke Greek, so omega and alpha is all just ........ :shrug:
 
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