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Why is the “Christian” day of rest, on the 8th day?

lostwanderingsoul

Well-Known Member
There is no "Christian" day of rest. God blessed the seventh day and made it holy. "Christians" decided that Jesus rose from the tomb on the first day of the week so they would use the first day as their day of rest. What they don't realize is that most of what is called "Christian" is inspired by Satan to keep people from following what God wants them to do. Think about it. God says remember the Sabbath (seventh) day and people say no way, we are going to celebrate the first day. And they think they are doing what God wants. How ignorant and blind. Satan at work.
 

columbus

yawn <ignore> yawn
There is no "Christian" day of rest. God blessed the seventh day and made it holy. "Christians" decided that Jesus rose from the tomb on the first day of the week so they would use the first day as their day of rest.
Don't you see the contradiction here?
Christians have a Sabbath. It's in line with their beliefs. Jesus is quoted as saying that the Sabbath is made for mankind, not mankind made for the Sabbath.
So where's the problem?
Tom
 

2ndpillar

Well-Known Member
So what does make someone a Christian?
Agreeing with you?
Don't you see the contradiction here?
Christians have a Sabbath. It's in line with their beliefs. Jesus is quoted as saying that the Sabbath is made for mankind, not mankind made for the Sabbath.
So where's the problem?
Tom
Tom

And the "Word of God" said that "another"/king, a head of the beast, would endeavor to "make alterations in times and in law" (Daniel 7:25). Now that you are keeping the decrees of that beast, then apparently you take on his "mark" (Revelation 13:11-16) & (Dt 6:8).
 

columbus

yawn <ignore> yawn
And the "Word of God" said that "another"/king, a head of the beast, would endeavor to "make alterations in times and in law" (Daniel 7:25). Now that you are keeping the decrees of that beast, then apparently you take on his "mark" (Revelation 13:11-16) & (Dt 6:8).
Well, it was Jesus' idea.
Supposedly. I don't claim to speak for Him. But it's there in the New Testament. If that matters to you.
Tom
 

Phantasman

Well-Known Member
I have found the term “religion” in the bible around 15 times, and the most pertinent would be the following. None of them mentioned the “priesthood” of the Jews, but most of them were from Paul. As for the priesthood itself, it will be brought back (Malachi 3:1-3).

Malachi 3: 1“Behold, I am going to send My messenger, and he will clear the way before Me. And the Lord, whom you seek, will suddenly come to His temple; and the messenger of the covenant, in whom you delight, behold, He is coming,” says the LORD of hosts. 2“But who can endure the day of His coming? And who can stand when He appears? For He is like a refiner’s fire and like fullers’ soap. 3“He will sit as a smelter and purifier of silver, and He will purify the sons of Levi and refine them like gold and silver, so that they may present to the LORD offerings in righteousness. 4“Then the offering of Judah and Jerusalem will be pleasing to the LORD as in the days of old and as in former years.

James 1:26 Those who consider themselves religious and yet do not ...

Those who consider themselves religious and yet do not keep a tight rein on their
tongues deceive themselves, and their religion is worthless. ...
//biblehub.com/james/1-26.htm - 19k

James 1:27 Religion that God our Father accepts as pure and ...

Religion that God our Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after
orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being polluted ...


Galatians 1:13 For you have heard of my previous way of life in ...

... You know what I was like when I followed the Jewish religion--how I violently
persecuted God's church. I did my best to destroy it. ...
//biblehub.com/galatians/1-13.htm - 18k

Galatians 1:14 I was advancing in Judaism beyond many of my own ...

... You also heard how I was far ahead of other Jews in my age group in following
the Jewish religion. I had become that fanatical for ...
Everytime a new translation comes, words change to please the translator. I quoted the KJV. Changing translations changes perception. Jesus told us not to trust the scribes (controllers of words). Only the Spirit reveals the truth. And the Spirit uses images, not words.

Truth did not come into the world naked, but it came in types and images. The world will not receive truth in any other way. There is a rebirth and an image of rebirth. It is certainly necessary to be born again through the image. Which one? Resurrection. The image must rise again through the image. The bridal chamber and the image must enter through the image into the truth: this is the restoration.- Gospel of Philip
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Since the early church quickly became mostly gentile after the destruction of the Temple in 70 c.e., and since gentiles are not obligated to follow Jewish Law, what difference does it make which day Christians prefer as their day of rest?

BTW, the "day of rest" ain't working too well here in the States as it is the busiest shopping day of the week, including restaurant attendance.
 

lostwanderingsoul

Well-Known Member
Exactly the point. What difference does it make what day you observe? God did not say the seventh day was only important to Old Testament people. God made the seventh day holy. Man deliberately says he is not going to listen to God just because it is in some old book and there is a newer book available. So, yes, it does make a difference if you want to listen to God or do whatever you feel like. Call yourself "Christian" but leave God out. That is exactly the problem.
 

2ndpillar

Well-Known Member
Since the early church quickly became mostly gentile after the destruction of the Temple in 70 c.e., and since gentiles are not obligated to follow Jewish Law, what difference does it make which day Christians prefer as their day of rest?

BTW, the "day of rest" ain't working too well here in the States as it is the busiest shopping day of the week, including restaurant attendance.


Anyone “foreigner” who wants to worship on God’s mountain is required to keep the Commandments and the Sabbath (Isaiah 56:6).

As for shopping on the day of the Sun, that was not always so, if you are old enough to know about the blue laws. The blue laws were instituted by Constantine in the year 321 A.D..

New American Standard Bible Isaiah 56:6
"Also the foreigners who join themselves to the LORD, To minister to Him, and to love the name of the LORD, To be His servants, every one who keeps from profaning the sabbath And holds fast My covenant;
 

74x12

Well-Known Member
That may make nice copy, but it has nothing to do with truth. As far as remaining in your sins, that would be obvious in the diseases you carry with you. Yeshua healed the man, and then told him to “sin no more” less something worse happens to you (John 5:14). Your sins and diseases are an ever going project, for you have apparently not turned from your sins. Yeshua is the “light” to give understanding with respect to the Law and the prophets, not to nail them to the cross. The “new covenant” will be when “My Law” is written on the hearts of the house of Judah and the house of Israel, and when no would have to tell his neighbor to know the LORD for they would all know Me (Jeremiah 31:34). As for the first will be last and the last will be first, that has multiple meanings, but the answer in one instance was given to Peter when he asked Yeshua, what is in it for me. In that case, Peter who was chosen first, would be last, and Matthew, who was chosen last, would be first. In another case it refers to the Jews and the Gentiles. The Jews were chosen first, and the Gentiles chosen last, and now we are in the time when the spirit flowed out to the Gentiles first, and the Jews will be last. Israel will be the tabernacle of God, and “the nations will know that I am the LORD who sanctifies Israel, when My sanctuary is in their midst. (Ezekiel 37:28).


New American Standard Bible John 5:14
Afterward Jesus found him in the temple and said to him, "Behold, you have become well; do not sin anymore, so that nothing worse happens to you."
I don't know what you mean a nice copy. Explain yourself.

Peter was chosen that's for sure and Jesus said He lost none except the son of perdition who was Judas not Peter. Either you think Jesus lost another one (Peter) or ... maybe you think Judas is alright. What do you think?
 

David1967

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
The 8th day, the day after the 7th day, the Sabbath rest of God. That will be the day of the great white throne judgment, and the event horizon, known as the 2nd death.

If there are seven days in a week, and the Sabbath is on the seventh day, wouldn't that make Sunday the first day of the week?
 

The Kilted Heathen

Crow FreyjasmaðR
Gravity does exist in the bible.
But the word "gravity" isn't used. So by your logic concerning religion, it's not a biblically sound thing. (Also a political fall isn't quite covered by gravity.)

All the kings, judges, and prophets were considered "anointed" by God.
And yet they were not THE Anointed One. Similar to how Peter could be satan (an opposer) but he was not Ha-Satan (The Prosecutor).
 

The Kilted Heathen

Crow FreyjasmaðR
There is no explaining it. There are seven days in a week. This "eighth day" is the first day of the week. You could perhaps manage by saying the "eighth day of the month", but there's only one of those.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Anyone “foreigner” who wants to worship on God’s mountain is required to keep the Commandments and the Sabbath (Isaiah 56:6).
In Hebrew, the "foreigner" is a reference to one whom converts to Judaism from another land, and it has never been held in halacha (Jewish Law) that gentiles must adhere to the entire Law, all 613 if them.

As for shopping on the day of the Sun, that was not always so, if you are old enough to know about the blue laws. The blue laws were instituted by Constantine in the year 321 A.D..
That was then, this is now, and now Sunday is the busiest shopping day of the week.
 

2ndpillar

Well-Known Member
In Hebrew, the "foreigner" is a reference to one whom converts to Judaism from another land, and it has never been held in halacha (Jewish Law) that gentiles must adhere to the entire Law, all 613 if them.

That was then, this is now, and now Sunday is the busiest shopping day of the week.

Maybe it would help if you read it in context. Not that you will change our ways. As for "those that does wrong, still do wrong" (Rev 22:11). Keeping My Commandments, My covenant, which includes the Sabbath, is not 613 laws.

Isaiah 56:1Thus says the LORD,
“Preserve justice and do righteousness,
For My salvation is about to come
And My righteousness to be revealed.

2“How blessed is the man who does this,
And the son of man who takes hold of it;
Who keeps from profaning the sabbath,
And keeps his hand from doing any evil.”

3Let not the foreigner who has joined himself to the LORD say,
“The LORD will surely separate me from His people.”
Nor let the eunuch say, “Behold, I am a dry tree.”

4For thus says the LORD,
“To the eunuchs who keep My sabbaths,
And choose what pleases Me,
And hold fast My covenant,

5To them I will give in My house and within My walls a memorial,
And a name better than that of sons and daughters;
I will give them an everlasting name which will not be cut off.

6“Also the foreigners who join themselves to the LORD,
To minister to Him, and to love the name of the LORD,
To be His servants, every one who keeps from profaning the sabbath
And holds fast My covenant;

7Even those I will bring to My holy mountain
And make them joyful in My house of prayer.
Their burnt offerings and their sacrifices will be acceptable on My altar;
For My house will be called a house of prayer for all the peoples.”

8The Lord GOD, who gathers the dispersed of Israel, declares,
“Yet others I will gather to them, to those already gathered.”
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Maybe it would help if you read it in context. Not that you will change our ways. As for "those that does wrong, still do wrong" (Rev 22:11). Keeping My Commandments, My covenant, which includes the Sabbath, is not 613 laws.
Here are the 613 Commandments as found in Torah, and these form the basis of the "Law": Judaism 101: A List of the 613 Mitzvot (Commandments)

Gentiles are not obligated to follow Jewish Law as found in Torah or the Tanakh, nor are they under the Abrahamic Covenant whereas circumcision on the 8th day after birth is a requirement for males.

And which "ways" do I supposedly have to "change", according to you? Seems that you're being pretty judgmental.
 

2ndpillar

Well-Known Member
Here are the 613 Commandments as found in Torah, and these form the basis of the "Law": Judaism 101: A List of the 613 Mitzvot (Commandments)

Gentiles are not obligated to follow Jewish Law as found in Torah or the Tanakh, nor are they under the Abrahamic Covenant whereas circumcision on the 8th day after birth is a requirement for males.

And which "ways" do I supposedly have to "change", according to you? Seems that you're being pretty judgmental.

I quote Jeshua with respect that you should do as you always do, for we are already in the time of "the time is near" (Revelation 22:10), as in the "end of the age" (Matthew 13:40) & (Daniel 12:13). Seek the LORD while he may be found (Isaiah 55:6). I am thinking the day of you turning from wickedness, is past. But then who knows, I just may be a yee of little faith.

Now the best you can hope for is to come out alive from the refining fire of Zechariah 13:8-9. In the day of Ezekiel, the elders were first in line for the executioner. Hope for your survival is problematic as far as being among the 1/3 survivors of Zechariah 13:8-9 & Joel 2:31-32).

As for Abraham, he was a Gentile, a non Jew, and Ishmael, and Abraham's slaves and their children were also under that covenant.

Isaiah 55:5"Behold, you will call a nation you do not know, And a nation which knows you not will run to you, Because of the LORD your God, even the Holy One of Israel; For He has glorified you." 6Seek the LORD while He may be found; Call upon Him while He is near. 7Let the wicked forsake his way And the unrighteous man his thoughts; And let him return to the LORD, And He will have compassion on him, And to our God, For He will abundantly pardon.…
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
As for Abraham, he was a Gentile, a non Jew, and Ishmael, and Abraham's slaves and their children were also under that covenant.
The word "Gentile" was not used at that time because "Jew" was not yet used, and a "Gentile" is a non-"Jew". However, the people who descended from Abraham via God's promise were called "Jews", and it is only they that use circumcision on the 8th day after birth. Gentiles generally don't since they are not required. It is clear that you really do not even get close to understanding both the Law and also the Abrahamic Covenant and how it does or does not apply and to whom.

Now the best you can hope for is to come out alive from the refining fire of Zechariah 13:8-9.
Nothing short of judgmental and condescending clap-trap.
 

Faithofchristian

Well-Known Member
There is no day of rest, after Christ Jesus death and Resurrection, that now we rest in Christ Jesus and not on any certain day of the week.

This is why Christ Jesus said, "Come unto me all you that labour and are heavy laden and I will give you rest"

Notice Christ Jesus said, ( I will give you rest)
Christ Jesus didn't say he would give you 7th day sabbath rest or Sunday rest,

Christ Jesus said, ( I will give you rest)
Pointing to himself, he will give you rest.
 
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