The 3 Earth Ages

Faithofchristian · Feb 14, 2018

Subduction Zone said:
If you apologize for your attitude I will gladly help you. Ignorance and arrogance is a terrible combination.

I have no idea what your talking about as far as apologizing, I already know how the sea shells got into the deserts, I was asking you, if you knew how the sea shells got there from your point of view.

The young earth creationists, will go to the flood of Noah's, to explain how the sea shells got there, that's because that's what they been taught.
And the scientist will go to explain how the sea shells got there from their point of view.
So you have two groups of people going at each other. One trying to disprove the other.on how the sea shells got into the deserts. The sea shells didn't get there by the flood of Noah's that's for sure. When the sea shells were already there way before the flood of Noah's happen.

As far as the scientist, they are more right than they probably know, that the mountains and the deserts were at one time covered over with water. And when the water started to subside from the desert, the water left behind the sea shells in what we call to day deserts. And after Millions of years, the sea shells became fossilized in the rocks in the deserts.

My belief is that the scientist hear the young earth creationists, talk about the flood of Noah's, and that's the only flood they see as well as anyone else sees also, and the scientist try to go at it to try and disprove the young earth creationists Theory of the flood of Noah's.

If I had to pick a side to stand with, it would be with the scientist, Why ?
Because the scientist theory is more in line to how the sea shells got there in the desert, than what the young earth creationists theory is.

What the scientist don't know is, that their theory that the sea shells got there by water covering the earth and mountains, and when the water started to subside leaving behind the sea shells embedded in rocks.

So what the scientist don't know is that their theory lines up more with, what Peter had written in 2 Peter 3:6--"Whereby the world that then was being overflowed with water perished"
This is not to be taken as the flood of Noah's either. This flood of water happen way before the flood of Noah's ever happen and before Noah was ever born.

So when the scientist say, that the earth and mountains and deserts were covered over by water and then once the water started to subside leaving behind the sea shells fossilized in the rocks of mountains and deserts, they are more right than they realize they are.

For some reason people are stuck on the flood of Noah's, like the young creationists are. Thinking that the only flood of Noah's was the only flood of water to ever happen, which it was not the only flood of water to happen.
The flood of Noah's could never ever be compared to the first earth age flood of water.

Had the scientist understood, that even in the book of Genesis proves their theory. Of water covering the mountains and deserts.
That in Genesis 1:2, 9-10, that in Verse 2 we find the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
And then in Verses 9&10, we find God saying, Let the waters under heaven be gathered together unto one place and let the dry land appear and God called the dry land Earth, and the waters called seas.

Note that this flood of waters covering the earth was way before Noah was ever born.

This is that water that 2 Peter 3:6 is talking about. Which provers the scientist theory.about the water covering the mountains and deserts, that once the water started to subside leaving behind the sea shells fossilized embedded in rocks.

That more than once scientist have claimed, how a giant Meteorite hit the earth with such an impact that caused volcanoes to erupt, earthquakes to erupt.the ocean seas to overflow causing sea shells to be fossilized embedded in rocks and Extinction of the dinosaurs leaving behind dinosaurs bones to be embedded in the earth and some dinosaurs being buried in volcano Ash. Which some dinosaur were found in the State of Utah buried in volcano Ash. But no volcanoes we're to be found in the area.

So how is this to work, buried in volcano Ash, but no volcanoes were found in the area ?
I am not disputing any of it, I agree with it all, but it's amazing how dinosaurs are buried in volcano ash, but there were no volcanoes to be found in the area.

So I agree with the scientist that when this giant Meteorite hit the earth, that volcanoes erupted and the ash from the volcanoes being carried thru the air into places where there is no volcanoes and covered the dinosaurs in the volcano ash, then leaving behind the dinosaurs covered in the volcano ash. To be found later by the scientist in our time.

This all happen in the first earth age.

That now we're here in the second earth age, where the scientist found the dinosaurs bones from the first earth age buried in the earth as witnesses of the first earth age.

Subduction Zone · Feb 14, 2018

Faithofchristian said:
I have no idea what your talking about as far as apologizing, I already know how the sea shells got into the deserts, I was asking you, if you knew how the sea shells got there from your point of view.

The young earth creationists, will go to the flood of Noah's, to explain how the sea shells got there, that's because that's what they been taught.
And the scientist will go to explain how the sea shells got there from their point of view.
So you have two groups of people going at each other. One trying to disprove the other.on how the sea shells got into the deserts. The sea shells didn't get there by the flood of Noah's that's for sure. When the sea shells were already there way before the flood of Noah's happen.

As far as the scientist, they are more right than they probably know, that the mountains and the deserts were at one time covered over with water. And when the water started to subside from the desert, the water left behind the sea shells in what we call to day deserts. And after Millions of years, the sea shells became fossilized in the rocks in the deserts.

My belief is that the scientist hear the young earth creationists, talk about the flood of Noah's, and that's the only flood they see as well as anyone else sees also, and the scientist try to go at it to try and disprove the young earth creationists Theory of the flood of Noah's.

If I had to pick a side to stand with, it would be with the scientist, Why ?
Because the scientist theory is more in line to how the sea shells got there in the desert, than what the young earth creationists theory is.

What the scientist don't know is, that their theory that the sea shells got there by water covering the earth and mountains, and when the water started to subside leaving behind the sea shells embedded in rocks.

So what the scientist don't know is that their theory lines up more with, what Peter had written in 2 Peter 3:6--"Whereby the world that then was being overflowed with water perished"
This is not to be taken as the flood of Noah's either. This flood of water happen way before the flood of Noah's ever happen and before Noah was ever born.

So when the scientist say, that the earth and mountains and deserts were covered over by water and then once the water started to subside leaving behind the sea shells fossilized in the rocks of mountains and deserts, they are more right than they realize they are.

For some reason people are stuck on the flood of Noah's, like the young creationists are. Thinking that the only flood of Noah's was the only flood of water to ever happen, which it was not the only flood of water to happen.
The flood of Noah's could never ever be compared to the first earth age flood of water.

Had the scientist understood, that even in the book of Genesis proves their theory. Of water covering the mountains and deserts.
That in Genesis 1:2, 9-10, that in Verse 2 we find the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
And then in Verses 9&10, we find God saying, Let the waters under heaven be gathered together unto one place and let the dry land appear and God called the dry land Earth, and the waters called seas.

Note that this flood of waters covering the earth was way before Noah was ever born.

This is that water that 2 Peter 3:6 is talking about. Which provers the scientist theory.about the water covering the mountains and deserts, that once the water started to subside leaving behind the sea shells fossilized embedded in rocks.

That more than once scientist have claimed, how a giant Meteorite hit the earth with such an impact that caused volcanoes to erupt, earthquakes to erupt.the ocean seas to overflow causing sea shells to be fossilized embedded in rocks and Extinction of the dinosaurs leaving behind dinosaurs bones to be embedded in the earth and some dinosaurs being buried in volcano Ash. Which some dinosaur were found in the State of Utah buried in volcano Ash. But no volcanoes we're to be found in the area.

So how is this to work, buried in volcano Ash, but no volcanoes were found in the area ?
I am not disputing any of it, I agree with it all, but it's amazing how dinosaurs are buried in volcano ash, but there were no volcanoes to be found in the area.

So I agree with the scientist that when this giant Meteorite hit the earth, that volcanoes erupted and the ash from the volcanoes being carried thru the air into places where there is no volcanoes and covered the dinosaurs in the volcano ash, then leaving behind the dinosaurs covered in the volcano ash. To be found later by the scientist in our time.

This all happen in the first earth age.

That now we're here in the second earth age, where the scientist found the dinosaurs bones from the first earth age buried in the earth as witnesses of the first earth age.

Too long didn't read. You are the one that is terribly ignorant about all of the sciences and you copped an attitude. Go back and read your posts. You were arrogant and ignorant, an all but unforgivable attitude. If you want an explanation of that which you do not understand but you should have learned while still in high school then you need to apologize.

Faithofchristian · Feb 14, 2018

Subduction Zone said:
Too long didn't read. You are the one that is terribly ignorant about all of the sciences and you copped an attitude. Go back and read your posts. You were arrogant and ignorant, an all but unforgivable attitude. If you want an explanation of that which you do not understand but you should have learned while still in high school then you need to apologize.

What I learned in high school is how I came to learn about the dinosaurs bones and the sea shells as being in the mountains and deserts..
And how the bible Confirm's all them.

That to which you have yet to learn about.

Subduction Zone · Feb 14, 2018

Faithofchristian said:
What I learned in high school is how I came to learn about the dinosaurs bones and the sea shells as being in the mountains and deserts..
And how the bible Confirm's all them.

That to which you have yet to learn about.

But it simply doesn't. You may have had a terrible teacher, or you may not have been paying attention. My high school education seems to have been quite a bit above average, and for that I weep. You should have learned at least the very basics of the sciences in high school. It is clear that you didn't.

Subduction Zone · Feb 14, 2018

<sigh>

Let's start with the very foundation of geology. Geology works on the principal of Uniformitarianism. This is quite often strawmanned by creationists. Uniformitarianism is a very simple concept that almost everyone accepts when presented properly. It is merely the concept that the same physical laws exist today as in the past.

This should be obviously true. If you tried to change the physical laws it would have countless consequences and life as we know it simply could not exist.

Does this seem to be a reasonable concept to you?

URAVIP2ME · Feb 15, 2018

Faithofchristian said:
Form a biblical view, As to why would God need to destroy the whole earth by a flood of water.
Seeing the wickedness of man was only in the area where Noah was at ?
There's nothing said about the whole earth, only the wickedness of man in the earth, this could mean the earth as to where Noah was at in the earth.
No more than to say, that a man planted a tree in the earth and the tree was great in the earth, does this mean in the whole earth or just where the man is at ?
Therefore the wickedness of man was great in the earth, does this mean the whole earth or just where Noah was at in the earth ?
I believe it means, just where Noah is at in the earth.
The reason why I say this, is because in Genesis 10:5 where did the Gentiles come from, if the flood of Noah's covered the whole earth ?

Genesis chapter 10 is set 'after' the Flood of Noah's day. Nimrod was Not a worshipper of God (verses 8-10).
As the pagan people left ancient Babylon they spread their religious-myth beliefs world wide into a greater religious Babylon or Babylon the Great. Those peoples formed the Gentile nations.
Through Noah's son Shem formed the Israelite nation.

Earth was Not destroyed, but flood waters ' washed clean ', so to speak, the Earth.
Genesis 6:11 does state the Earth was corrupt... filled with violence.
I find at Genesis 7:19-24 that all the high hills were covered, and verse 20 that mountains were covered.
Even if we don't have all the details now, that does Not mean that under Christ's coming 1,000-year governmental rule over Earth that we won't learn more. We will have all the answers at that millennial time frame.

Faithofchristian · Feb 16, 2018

URAVIP2ME said:
Genesis chapter 10 is set 'after' the Flood of Noah's day. Nimrod was Not a worshipper of God (verses 8-10).
As the pagan people left ancient Babylon they spread their religious-myth beliefs world wide into a greater religious Babylon or Babylon the Great. Those peoples formed the Gentile nations.
Through Noah's son Shem formed the Israelite nation.

Earth was Not destroyed, but flood waters ' washed clean ', so to speak, the Earth.
Genesis 6:11 does state the Earth was corrupt... filled with violence.
I find at Genesis 7:19-24 that all the high hills were covered, and verse 20 that mountains were covered.
Even if we don't have all the details now, that does Not mean that under Christ's coming 1,000-year governmental rule over Earth that we won't learn more. We will have all the answers at that millennial time frame.

That's right Genesis 10:5 was after the flood of Noah's,And Nimrod wasn't born until after the sons of Shem,Ham and Japheth went into the isles of the Gentiles.

Will you still haven't explain how the Gentiles are still alive and still there, after the flood of Noah's, So the flood of Noah's couldn't possibly had covered the whole earth, as you say.

The flood of Noah's, could only covered the earth as to where Noah and his family were at and where the wickedness of man was at.Why would God need to destroy the whole earth, seeing the wickedness of man was at where Noah was at.

I suppose that if you had a basket of apples and you found one rotten apple in the basket with good apples, you would throw out the whole basket over one bad apple ?
Therefore why would God need to destroy the whole earth, seeing the wickedness of man was only concentrated to where Noah was at ?
All it said in Genesis 6:5--"And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth"
Ok, so where else would the wickedness of man be if not in the earth ?

So by your logic, I suppose saying Africa was found in the earth, that would mean by your logic, Africa was found in the whole earth.
Therefore the wickedness of man, was only to be found in the earth to where Noah was at.

Therefore the isles of the Gentiles were untouched by the flood of Noah's.

That's why we find in Genesis 10:5 the isles of the Gentiles, therefore flood of Noah's had no effect on the isles of the Gentiles.

URAVIP2ME · Feb 17, 2018

Faithofchristian said:
That's right Genesis 10:5 was after the flood of Noah's,And Nimrod wasn't born until after the sons of Shem,Ham and Japheth went into the isles of the Gentiles.
Will you still haven't explain how the Gentiles are still alive and still there, after the flood of Noah's, So the flood of Noah's couldn't possibly had covered the whole earth, as you say.

First of all, "I did Not say", but Genesis 7:19-20 says it.
Right, Noah's great-grandson Nimrod was born after the Flood and after sons Shem, Ham and Japheth.
Would you please post the verse or passage referring to the Isles of the Gentiles.

Chosen One · Feb 4, 2020

Faithofchristian said:
Look as a Christian I have no need to prove or disprove the bible.

I take the bible as it is. Therefore the earth was covered with water, As stated in 2nd Peter 3:6,
"Whereby the world that then was being overflowed with water perished"
This is in reference to the book of Genesis 1:2.
Where the earth being covered over with water.

Look I already did look for ways to confirm the Bible, that's why there's 3 earth ages, to prove that the dinosaurs were here on earth, before humans of flesh and blood were here on earth.

That the earth is Millions to Billions of years old.
And not 6000 years old as alot of people are being taught.
There's no where in the Bible that says the earth is 6000 yrs old.
The bible does confirm's that the earth is alot older than 6000 yrs.

Chosen One · Feb 4, 2020

Ashton Falls Nebraska has a National Park where the dinasoars died instantly, even the pregnant ones. They were found while digging up the ground. Satan sure has his way of creeping in where he’s not wanted huh? Funny how we’re letting Sheldon ruin a great bible study LOL

Chosen One · Feb 4, 2020

Chosen One said:
Ashton Falls Nebraska has a National Park where the dinasoars died instantly, even the pregnant ones. They were found while digging up the ground. Satan sure has his way of creeping in where he’s not wanted huh? Funny how we’re letting Sheldon ruin a great bible study LOL

shunyadragon · Feb 4, 2020

Chosen One said:
Ashton Falls Nebraska has a National Park where the dinasoars died instantly, even the pregnant ones. They were found while digging up the ground. Satan sure has his way of creeping in where he’s not wanted huh? Funny how we’re letting Sheldon ruin a great bible study LOL

Needs more explanation concerning the fossils and your conclusions. The 'objective evidence' has determined the dinosaurs died in huge volcanic eruption and covered in volcanic ash.

Chosen One · Feb 4, 2020

Don’t really have any more explanation, was just telling about the place & ur right. It’s about the fossil’s from the volcanic ash. There was a statement about the flood that peeked my curiosity last night. How come that didn’t destroy the sight we’re discussing?

shunyadragon · Feb 5, 2020

Chosen One said:
Don’t really have any more explanation, was just telling about the place & ur right. It’s about the fossil’s from the volcanic ash. There was a statement about the flood that peeked my curiosity last night. How come that didn’t destroy the sight we’re discussing?

it did not destroy the site it simply covered it with volcanic ash, and killed all the dinosaurs..

sooda · Feb 5, 2020

Faithofchristian said:
Not quite sure what your meaning by A&E,

If not wrong, that would be at Adam and Eve. To be the first human beings of flesh and blood to walk the earth.

Who came up with the 3 earth ages doctrine? Is that from Arnold Murray in Arkansas?

Refuting Shepherd's Chapel - Katabole and 3 Earth Ages
A Reformed Thinker:: April 2013refuting-shepherds-chapel-katabole.html
Apr 01, 2013 · Thank you for your post. You however did not deal with any of my objections to Murray's teachings that I presented in the article. Yes Jesus came through the seedline of Sarah but that has nothing at all to do with the doctrine of 3 earth ages. Hebrews 2:14 is the culmination of the argument for Christ's divinity and incarnation.

Faithofchristian · Feb 6, 2020

sooda said:
Who came up with the 3 earth ages doctrine? Is that from Arnold Murray in Arkansas?

Refuting Shepherd's Chapel - Katabole and 3 Earth Ages
A Reformed Thinker:: April 2013refuting-shepherds-chapel-katabole.html
Apr 01, 2013 · Thank you for your post. You however did not deal with any of my objections to Murray's teachings that I presented in the article. Yes Jesus came through the seedline of Sarah but that has nothing at all to do with the doctrine of 3 earth ages. Hebrews 2:14 is the culmination of the argument for Christ's divinity and incarnation.

You make false accusations and have nothing to base your false accusations on..

Throughout the Bible does in deed speak about the 3 earth ages..

There's the First earth as to the dinosaurs bones come from 64,5 Million years ago..
Which out dates the earth as being 6000
Years old.
And the bible indeeds speaks about the
3 heaven and Earth ages..
Have you any clue or idea what
Spiritual discernment is.

In 1st Corinthians 2:14---"But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned"

You see unless you have Spiritual discernment..you will never see the things in the Bible that is given by the Spirit of God.
Even Jesus Christ said of himself in the book of John 6:63---"It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life"

The words Jesus Christ speak are spirit and thereby it takes spiritual discernment to understand the spirit of the words that Jesus Christ speaks..
Revelation 3:6---"He that has an ear..let him hear what the spirit said unto the churches"

Do you.yourself have a ear to understand what the Spirit of the word is saying..

Of course you don't.. otherwise you wouldn't be making false accusations about things that you don't understand what the spirit of the word is saying.
You do know in the book of Mark 13.
Jesus Christ foretold what the blasphemy of the Spirit actually is..
And when it will happen
And by who can commit it.
Let's see if you have Spiritual discernment to decipher what Jesus Christ foretold
In Mark 13.

sooda · Feb 6, 2020

Faithofchristian said:
You make false accusations and have nothing to base your false accusations on..

Throughout the Bible does in deed speak about the 3 earth ages..

There's the First earth as to the dinosaurs bones come from 64,5 Million years ago..
Which out dates the earth as being 6000
Years old.
And the bible indeeds speaks about the
3 heaven and Earth ages..
Have you any clue or idea what
Spiritual discernment is.

In 1st Corinthians 2:14---"But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned"

You see unless you have Spiritual discernment..you will never see the things in the Bible that is given by the Spirit of God.
Even Jesus Christ said of himself in the book of John 6:63---"It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life"

The words Jesus Christ speak are spirit and thereby it takes spiritual discernment to understand the spirit of the words that Jesus Christ speaks..
Revelation 3:6---"He that has an ear..let him hear what the spirit said unto the churches"

Do you.yourself have a ear to understand what the Spirit of the word is saying..

Of course you don't.. otherwise you wouldn't be making false accusations about things that you don't understand what the spirit of the word is saying.
You do know in the book of Mark 13.
Jesus Christ foretold what the blasphemy of the Spirit actually is..
And when it will happen
And by who can commit it.
Let's see if you have Spiritual discernment to decipher what Jesus Christ foretold
In Mark 13.

Its a phony baloney doctrine.

Audie · Feb 6, 2020

Faithofchristian said:
How much do you really know about the
3 Earth Ages.

Christ Jesus in speaking about the blasphemy of the Holy Spirit in the book of Matthew 12:32, that the blasphemy of the Holy Spirit, "It shall not be forgiven, neither in this world, neither in the world to come"

So here we find, 2 of the Earth ages, The world which we now live in, and the world which is yet to come, being the third Earth age, That when Christ Jesus returns,the third Earth age will be assured in, Establishing God's kingdom here on Earth.

But what about the first Earth age?

We know that the dinosaurs bones date's back to some 6.5 Millions of years ago.

That the dinosaurs bones out date's Adam and Eve, So here we find the first Earth age of the Dinosaurs.

So you have the first earth age of the dinosaurs.

And the second earth age, which we live in.

And the third earth age, will be assured in at Christ Jesus second coming,
Establishing God's kingdom here on earth.

YOU sure dont know much about earth history if you think
the "dinosaurs" were some sort of first age. We suggest you
learn something before you try to teach.

Audie · Feb 6, 2020

Faithofchristian said:
Maybe because everything was living in harmony, until Satan's rebellion, that caused a disruption in everything.

You know it's said, it only takes one bad appears to make bad the whole bunch.

And that's exactly what Satan did.

It does not take many ignorant fools to make
all of christianity look bad.

Audie · Feb 6, 2020

Chosen One said:
Ashton Falls Nebraska has a National Park where the dinasoars died instantly, even the pregnant ones. They were found while digging up the ground. Satan sure has his way of creeping in where he’s not wanted huh? Funny how we’re letting Sheldon ruin a great bible study LOL

This place you describe does not exist.

You got about every "fact" wrong.

There is Ashfall State Historical Park.

The animals are rhinoceros, not dinosaurs.

There is no indication of "instant" death.

Did "Satan" creep in and confuse you?

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