Giants = Nephilim

In the Translation of the Hebrew and Greek language into English, There are many words that got lost in Translation.

Take for instance in the book of
Genesis 6:4 the word ( Giants ) the correct translation should haved been
( Nephilim ) in the Greek Translation.

But however upon those who did the Translation of the Hebrew and Greek language, did the best they could with what tools they had at the time.

Where as to day, we have the necessary tools to translate the Hebrew and Greek language into English.

Therefore the proper Translation of the word
( Giants ) in the Greek Translation would haved been ( Nephilim )

So the question is, Who and what are the Nephilim ?
In the book of Genesis 6:4, We find the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men.
The sons of God being Celestial angels of heaven.
These angels being the fallen angels of heaven, which are the angels of Satan's.

These Giants ( Nephilim ) are detailed in the Biblical origin being half Celestial angels and half human, being Hybrid Giants, which are Nephilim Giants.

Who were the product of illicit relations between the evil fallen angels of Satan's and human women, Unto which produce the Nephilim Giant's.

To get a better understanding just how tall these Nephilim Giant's were.

If you were to take a small kid between the ages of 3 to 6 years old and stand them next to someone who is 8 to 12 feet tall, that might give you a pretty good idea just how tall those Nephilim Giant's were next to a full grown man or woman.

Not only were the Nephilim Giant's tall, But also had superhuman strength and Cannibals as well.
Is it any wonder why God wanted these beings killed off to be Destroyed, by the flood of Noah's.

But as it maybe, that not all of the Nephilim Giant's were destroyed by the flood of Noah's.
That we find that during the time of Moses, That Moses sent spy's over into the land of the Amalekites, Hittites, Jebusites, Amorites and Canaanites, to see what people lived there in the land.

That in the Bible in the book of
Numbers 13:32,33, That we read how these spy's came back to Moses saying how the people who lived there were Giants
( Nephilim ) and that they were like grasshoppers in their sight and eats up the inhabitants of the land.

Therefore when people read about God Destroying men,women and children, First you would have to know who those people were, they were not human beings as we are.

But Hybrids half human and half Celestial angels, being Nephilim Giant's, with superhuman strength and cannibal eating habits.

Can you imagine if those Celestial Nephilim Giant's were alive to day ?

If anyone would like to know more about the Nephilim Giant's, put in your search engine

beginning and end.com bloodline of the Nephilim giants

Spot on Enoch (the real one) would be proud!

Faithofchristian said:

In the Translation of the Hebrew and Greek language into English, There are many words that got lost in Translation.

Take for instance in the book of
Genesis 6:4 the word ( Giants ) the correct translation should haved been
( Nephilim ) in the Greek Translation.

But however upon those who did the Translation of the Hebrew and Greek language, did the best they could with what tools they had at the time.

Where as to day, we have the necessary tools to translate the Hebrew and Greek language into English.

Therefore the proper Translation of the word
( Giants ) in the Greek Translation would haved been ( Nephilim )

So the question is, Who and what are the Nephilim ?
In the book of Genesis 6:4, We find the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men.
The sons of God being Celestial angels of heaven.
These angels being the fallen angels of heaven, which are the angels of Satan's.

These Giants ( Nephilim ) are detailed in the Biblical origin being half Celestial angels and half human, being Hybrid Giants, which are Nephilim Giants.

Who were the product of illicit relations between the evil fallen angels of Satan's and human women, Unto which produce the Nephilim Giant's.

To get a better understanding just how tall these Nephilim Giant's were.

If you were to take a small kid between the ages of 3 to 6 years old and stand them next to someone who is 8 to 12 feet tall, that might give you a pretty good idea just how tall those Nephilim Giant's were next to a full grown man or woman.

Not only were the Nephilim Giant's tall, But also had superhuman strength and Cannibals as well.
Is it any wonder why God wanted these beings killed off to be Destroyed, by the flood of Noah's.

But as it maybe, that not all of the Nephilim Giant's were destroyed by the flood of Noah's.
That we find that during the time of Moses, That Moses sent spy's over into the land of the Amalekites, Hittites, Jebusites, Amorites and Canaanites, to see what people lived there in the land.

That in the Bible in the book of
Numbers 13:32-33, That we read how these spy's came back to Moses saying how the people who lived there were Giants
( Nephilim ) and they were like grasshoppers in their sight and eats up the inhabitants of the land.

Therefore when people read about God Destroying men, women and children, First you would have to know who those people were, they were not human beings as we are.But Hybrids half human and half Celestial angels, being Nephilim Giant's, with superhuman strength and cannibal eating habits.

Can you imagine if those Celestial Nephilim Giant's were alive to day ?

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There is absolutely no reason to take this as a mating between angels and humans.

The Sons of God are the Hebrew. They started mixing with other people. Nephilim means mighty/stature, etc., not actually giants.

Gen 6:2 That the sons of Elohiym/God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.

Gen 6:4 There were nephilim/giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

"2. Mixed marriages (Gen_6:2): The sons of God (that is, the professors of religion, who were called by the name of the Lord, and called upon that name), married the daughters of men, that is, those that were profane, and strangers to God and godliness. ..." Matthew Henry's Commentary On The Whole Bible

Here is the second use - showing absolutely that the nephilim are just mighty men.

Num 13:27 And they told him, and said, We came unto the land whither thou sentest us, and surely it floweth with milk and honey; and this is the fruit of it.

Num 13:28 Nevertheless the people be strong that dwell in the land, and the cities are walled, and very great: and moreover we saw the children of Anak there.

Num 13:29 The Amalekites dwell in the land of the south: and the Hittites, and the Jebusites, and the Amorites, dwell in the mountains: and the Canaanites dwell by the sea, and by the coast of Jordan.

Num 13:32 And they brought up an evil report of the land which they had searched unto the children of Israel, saying, The land, through which we have gone to search it, is a land that eateth up the inhabitants thereof; and all the people that we saw in it are men of a great stature.

Num 13:33 And there we saw the nephilim/giants, the sons of Anak, which come of the nephilim/giants: and we were in our own sight as grasshoppers, and so we were in their sight.

Anak is a Canaanite, - not a giant. Look him up.

They were afraid because the people of that land had reputations as mighty warriors. Thus they felt small, like grasshoppers that are going to get squished, - when going up against them.

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Ingledsva said:

There is absolutely no reason to take this as a mating between angels and humans.

The Sons of God are the Hebrew. They started mixing with other people. Nephilim means mighty/stature, etc., not actually giants.

Gen 6:2 That the sons of Elohiym/God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.

Gen 6:4 There were nephilim/giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

"2. Mixed marriages (Gen_6:2): The sons of God (that is, the professors of religion, who were called by the name of the Lord, and called upon that name), married the daughters of men, that is, those that were profane, and strangers to God and godliness. ..." Matthew Henry's Commentary On The Whole Bible

Here is the second use - showing absolutely that the nephilim are just mighty men.

Num 13:27 And they told him, and said, We came unto the land whither thou sentest us, and surely it floweth with milk and honey; and this is the fruit of it.

Num 13:28 Nevertheless the people be strong that dwell in the land, and the cities are walled, and very great: and moreover we saw the children of Anak there.

Num 13:29 The Amalekites dwell in the land of the south: and the Hittites, and the Jebusites, and the Amorites, dwell in the mountains: and the Canaanites dwell by the sea, and by the coast of Jordan.

Num 13:32 And they brought up an evil report of the land which they had searched unto the children of Israel, saying, The land, through which we have gone to search it, is a land that eateth up the inhabitants thereof; and all the people that we saw in it are men of a great stature.

Num 13:33 And there we saw the nephilim/giants, the sons of Anak, which come of the nephilim/giants: and we were in our own sight as grasshoppers, and so we were in their sight.

Anak is a Canaanite, - not a giant. Look him up.

They were afraid because the people of that land had reputations as mighty warriors. Thus they felt small, like grasshoppers that are going to get squished, - when going up against them.

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As to how do you come by the sons of God as being Hebrew, Hebrew didn't come until Abraham, which was way after the flood of Noah's.
Genesis 14:13--"And there came one that had escaped, and told Abraham the Hebrew"
Therefore how is it that you come by the sons of God as being Hebrew, When Hebrew didn't come to be, until Abraham ?

So by your analogy the sons of God in the book of Job 1:6--"Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan came also among them"

So by your analogy the sons of God would be Hebrew, which Satan came with them.
You really got to be kidding

Faithofchristian said:

Take for instance in the book of
Genesis 6:4 the word ( Giants ) the correct translation should haved been
( Nephilim ) in the Greek Translation.

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Stop embarrassing yourself.

"Nephalim" is the transliteration of a Hebrew term. It is not a translation, and it is certainly not a translation of Koine Greek into English.

Ingledsva said:

The Sons of God are the Hebrew.

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So, would you be willing to provide, either,

• the early Rabbinic commentary that supports your claim, or
• your credentials that might lead us to believe that your opinion is somehow more valuable than theirs, and that gives you the intellectual authority to arrogantly dismiss their understanding of the text.

Parenthetically, from the JPS Commentary: Genesis (Nahum Sarna) ...

Faithofchristian said:

In the Translation of the Hebrew and Greek language into English, There are many words that got lost in Translation.

Take for instance in the book of
Genesis 6:4 the word ( Giants ) the correct translation should haved been
( Nephilim ) in the Greek Translation.

But however upon those who did the Translation of the Hebrew and Greek language, did the best they could with what tools they had at the time.

Where as to day, we have the necessary tools to translate the Hebrew and Greek language into English.

Therefore the proper Translation of the word
( Giants ) in the Greek Translation would haved been ( Nephilim )

So the question is, Who and what are the Nephilim ?
In the book of Genesis 6:4, We find the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men.
The sons of God being Celestial angels of heaven.
These angels being the fallen angels of heaven, which are the angels of Satan's.

These Giants ( Nephilim ) are detailed in the Biblical origin being half Celestial angels and half human, being Hybrid Giants, which are Nephilim Giants.

Who were the product of illicit relations between the evil fallen angels of Satan's and human women, Unto which produce the Nephilim Giant's.

To get a better understanding just how tall these Nephilim Giant's were.

If you were to take a small kid between the ages of 3 to 6 years old and stand them next to someone who is 8 to 12 feet tall, that might give you a pretty good idea just how tall those Nephilim Giant's were next to a full grown man or woman.

Not only were the Nephilim Giant's tall, But also had superhuman strength and Cannibals as well.
Is it any wonder why God wanted these beings killed off to be Destroyed, by the flood of Noah's.

But as it maybe, that not all of the Nephilim Giant's were destroyed by the flood of Noah's.
That we find that during the time of Moses, That Moses sent spy's over into the land of the Amalekites, Hittites, Jebusites, Amorites and Canaanites, to see what people lived there in the land.

That in the Bible in the book of
Numbers 13:32,33, That we read how these spy's came back to Moses saying how the people who lived there were Giants
( Nephilim ) and that they were like grasshoppers in their sight and eats up the inhabitants of the land.

Therefore when people read about God Destroying men,women and children, First you would have to know who those people were, they were not human beings as we are.

But Hybrids half human and half Celestial angels, being Nephilim Giant's, with superhuman strength and cannibal eating habits.

Can you imagine if those Celestial Nephilim Giant's were alive to day ?

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Nachmanides translates from naphal - " inferior" (to Sons of God). Some say they are still around. Ancient Red-Haired Giants in Lovelock, Nevada, USA

Jayhawker Soule said:

So, would you be willing to provide, either,

• the early Rabbinic commentary that supports your claim, or
• your credentials that might lead us to believe that your opinion is somehow more valuable than theirs, and that gives you the intellectual authority to arrogantly dismiss their understanding of the text.

Parenthetically, from the JPS Commentary: Genesis (Nahum Sarna) ...

the divine beings The definite article points toia familiar and well-understood term.* The context in Job 1:6, 2:1, and 38:7 unmistakably proves the reference to be to the angelic host, the celestial entourage of God. This is a poetic image drawn from the analogy of human kings surrounded by their assemblage of courtiers. Occasionally, as in 1 Kings 22:19, "the host of heaven" is used to the same effect.​

* In Ps. 29:1; 89:7, the variant benei' elim instead of benei ha-`elohim is used. This term appears in Ugar. and Phoen. sources in reference to the gods of the pantheon. In place of gods, the Israelite poetic imagination has one God surrounded by a host of courtiers. Of course, ben, usually "son of," has np biological implication but has the sense of "belonging to the class of" as in 1 Kings 20:35 and 2 Kings 2 passim, benei ha-nevi`im, "the members of the prophetic guild." That the "divine beings" were though of as being angels can be demonstrated by Dan. 3:25,28, where Aram. bar' elahin is identified as mal`akh, "angel." In Ps. 148:2, "angels" parallel "His hosts," tseva`av, which in 1 Kings 20:19 have the same function as benei ha`elohim in Job 1:; 2;1.

The earliest known exegesis of Gen. 6:1 took benei ha-`elohim to mean angels. This is attested to by the Noah fragment of 1 Enoch 6-11, which goes back to the first half of the second century B.C.E. Josephus, Ant. 1.78 (Loeb, p. 34) had the same tradition. However, about the middle of the second century C.E., R. Simeon b. Yohai strenuously objected to this interpretation and insisted on the meaning "sons of nobles" (Gen. R. 26:8). This id how two Aram. Targums render the term, as do Sym. and Sam. Targum. Manuscripts of the LXX vary between "the sons of God" and "the angels of God." Aq. uses the enigmatic "the sons of the gods." The striking contrast between `adam and `elohim in our passage together with the other biblical usages of benei ha-`elohim leave no doubt that the latter was originally understood to refer to the members of the celestial host. The latter rendering, adopted generally by medieval Jewish commentators, most likely owes its origin to the need to combat sectarian misinterpretations of the entire narrative.​

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. . . Additionally, the Hebrew term, בני ה אלהים (bene ha elohim), is found 6 times in the Tanakh, and all five outside of Genesis six speak of angels.



John

Jayhawker Soule said:

"Nephalim" is the transliteration of a Hebrew term. It is not a translation, and it is certainly not a translation of Koine Greek into English.

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. . . His point is well taken: "giant's" is a very questionable translation of the Hebrew, which is best translated "fallen ones" (napal meaning to fall), supporting the idea of a hybrid-race.


John

Faithofchristian said:

In the Translation of the Hebrew and Greek language into English, There are many words that got lost in Translation.

Take for instance in the book of
Genesis 6:4 the word ( Giants ) the correct translation should haved been
( Nephilim ) in the Greek Translation.

But however upon those who did the Translation of the Hebrew and Greek language, did the best they could with what tools they had at the time.

Where as to day, we have the necessary tools to translate the Hebrew and Greek language into English.

Therefore the proper Translation of the word
( Giants ) in the Greek Translation would haved been ( Nephilim )

So the question is, Who and what are the Nephilim ?
In the book of Genesis 6:4, We find the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men.
The sons of God being Celestial angels of heaven.
These angels being the fallen angels of heaven, which are the angels of Satan's.

These Giants ( Nephilim ) are detailed in the Biblical origin being half Celestial angels and half human, being Hybrid Giants, which are Nephilim Giants.

Who were the product of illicit relations between the evil fallen angels of Satan's and human women, Unto which produce the Nephilim Giant's.

To get a better understanding just how tall these Nephilim Giant's were.

If you were to take a small kid between the ages of 3 to 6 years old and stand them next to someone who is 8 to 12 feet tall, that might give you a pretty good idea just how tall those Nephilim Giant's were next to a full grown man or woman.

Not only were the Nephilim Giant's tall, But also had superhuman strength and Cannibals as well.
Is it any wonder why God wanted these beings killed off to be Destroyed, by the flood of Noah's.

But as it maybe, that not all of the Nephilim Giant's were destroyed by the flood of Noah's.
That we find that during the time of Moses, That Moses sent spy's over into the land of the Amalekites, Hittites, Jebusites, Amorites and Canaanites, to see what people lived there in the land.

That in the Bible in the book of
Numbers 13:32,33, That we read how these spy's came back to Moses saying how the people who lived there were Giants
( Nephilim ) and that they were like grasshoppers in their sight and eats up the inhabitants of the land.

Therefore when people read about God Destroying men,women and children, First you would have to know who those people were, they were not human beings as we are.

But Hybrids half human and half Celestial angels, being Nephilim Giant's, with superhuman strength and cannibal eating habits.

Can you imagine if those Celestial Nephilim Giant's were alive to day ?

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was there a mention.....how the giants were killed off?
or shall we say there still are giants among us?

The star wars documentary has documented them but not good e ough for me really.

Thief said:

was there a mention.....how the giants were killed off?
or shall we say there still are giants among us?

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There might be some people who are taller than the common person, but they are not the Nephilim Giant's, if they were they would really be noticeable, with superhuman strength and cannibals as well and being tall as 20 to 30 feet tall. That would really be hard not to notice.

If you like to do a study on the Nephilim Giant's.
Go to your search engine and put in

Beginning and end.com
Bloodline of the Nephilim Giant's

Faithofchristian said:

As to how do you come by the sons of God as being Hebrew, Hebrew didn't come until Abraham, which was way after the flood of Noah's.
Genesis 14:13--"And there came one that had escaped, and told Abraham the Hebrew"
Therefore how is it that you come by the sons of God as being Hebrew, When Hebrew didn't come to be, until Abraham ?

So by your analogy the sons of God in the book of Job 1:6--"Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan came also among them"

So by your analogy the sons of God would be Hebrew, which Satan came with them.
You really got to be kidding

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Anak is a Canaanite. Not a giant.

Numbers tells us exactly whom they were afraid of, which includes the Canaanites which Anak is.

Num 13:28 Nevertheless the people be strong that dwell in the land, and the cities are walled, and very great: and moreover we saw the children of Anak there. See # 15

Num 13:29 The Amalekites dwell in the land of the south: and the Hittites, and the Jebusites, and the Amorites, dwell in the mountains: and the Canaanites dwell by the sea, and by the coast of Jordan.

Num 13:32 And they brought up an evil report of the land which they had searched unto the children of Israel, saying, The land, through which we have gone to search it, is a land that eateth up the inhabitants thereof; and all the people that we saw in it are men of a great stature.

Num 13:33 And there we saw the nephilim/giants, the sons of Anak, which come of the nephilim/giants: and we were in our own sight as grasshoppers, and so we were in their sight.

Anak is a Canaanite, - not a giant. Look him up.

They were afraid because the people of that land had reputations as mighty warriors. Thus they felt small, like grasshoppers that are going to get squished, - when going up against them.

As to Job - I forgot to add that Elohiym can be humans or angels - look the word up in your Strong's.

el-o-heem'

Plural of H433; gods in the ordinary sense; but specifically used (in the plural thus, especially with the article) of the supreme God; occasionally applied by way of deference to magistrates; and sometimes as a superlative: - angels, X exceeding, God (gods) (-dess, -ly), X (very) great, judges, X mighty.
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Ingledsva said:

Anak is a Canaanite. Not a giant.

Numbers tells us exactly whom they were afraid of, which includes the Canaanites which Anak is.

Num 13:28 Nevertheless the people be strong that dwell in the land, and the cities are walled, and very great: and moreover we saw the children of Anak there.

Num 13:29 The Amalekites dwell in the land of the south: and the Hittites, and the Jebusites, and the Amorites, dwell in the mountains: and the Canaanites dwell by the sea, and by the coast of Jordan.

Num 13:32 And they brought up an evil report of the land which they had searched unto the children of Israel, saying, The land, through which we have gone to search it, is a land that eateth up the inhabitants thereof; and all the people that we saw in it are men of a great stature.

Num 13:33 And there we saw the nephilim/giants, the sons of Anak, which come of the nephilim/giants: and we were in our own sight as grasshoppers, and so we were in their sight.

Anak is a Canaanite, - not a giant. Look him up.

They were afraid because the people of that land had reputations as mighty warriors. Thus they felt small, like grasshoppers that are going to get squished, - when going up against them.

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I didn't say, Anak was a Giant, I said the Nephilim Giant's lived in the land of the Canaanites, Hittites, Amoriites Perizzites, Hivites, Jebusites, Amalekites.

But since you brought it up,
Numbers 13:33, does say, "And there we saw the Giants, the sons of Anak, which come of the Giants, and we were in our own sight as grasshoppers, and so we were in their sight"

Jayhawker Soule said:

So, would you be willing to provide, either,

• the early Rabbinic commentary that supports your claim, or
• your credentials that might lead us to believe that your opinion is somehow more valuable than theirs, and that gives you the intellectual authority to arrogantly dismiss their understanding of the text.

Parenthetically, from the JPS Commentary: Genesis (Nahum Sarna) ...

the divine beings The definite article points toia familiar and well-understood term.* The context in Job 1:6, 2:1, and 38:7 unmistakably proves the reference to be to the angelic host, the celestial entourage of God. This is a poetic image drawn from the analogy of human kings surrounded by their assemblage of courtiers. Occasionally, as in 1 Kings 22:19, "the host of heaven" is used to the same effect.​

* In Ps. 29:1; 89:7, the variant benei' elim instead of benei ha-`elohim is used. This term appears in Ugar. and Phoen. sources in reference to the gods of the pantheon. In place of gods, the Israelite poetic imagination has one God surrounded by a host of courtiers. Of course, ben, usually "son of," has np biological implication but has the sense of "belonging to the class of" as in 1 Kings 20:35 and 2 Kings 2 passim, benei ha-nevi`im, "the members of the prophetic guild." That the "divine beings" were though of as being angels can be demonstrated by Dan. 3:25,28, where Aram. bar' elahin is identified as mal`akh, "angel." In Ps. 148:2, "angels" parallel "His hosts," tseva`av, which in 1 Kings 20:19 have the same function as benei ha`elohim in Job 1:; 2;1.

The earliest known exegesis of Gen. 6:1 took benei ha-`elohim to mean angels. This is attested to by the Noah fragment of 1 Enoch 6-11, which goes back to the first half of the second century B.C.E. Josephus, Ant. 1.78 (Loeb, p. 34) had the same tradition. However, about the middle of the second century C.E., R. Simeon b. Yohai strenuously objected to this interpretation and insisted on the meaning "sons of nobles" (Gen. R. 26:8). This id how two Aram. Targums render the term, as do Sym. and Sam. Targum. Manuscripts of the LXX vary between "the sons of God" and "the angels of God." Aq. uses the enigmatic "the sons of the gods." The striking contrast between `adam and `elohim in our passage together with the other biblical usages of benei ha-`elohim leave no doubt that the latter was originally understood to refer to the members of the celestial host. The latter rendering, adopted generally by medieval Jewish commentators, most likely owes its origin to the need to combat sectarian misinterpretations of the entire narrative.​

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I am well aware of LATER opinions. However multiple explanations are understood and contemplated. This is 2 and 3 from a Jewish site. Explanation 1 was the angel idea which he seems to favor, - however he tells us the other accepted explanations, and gives notes for why at the bottom. for instance - (.Genesis Rabbah 26:5. As we shall see, Rabbi Shimon bar Yochai himself explains (ibid.) that benei elokim means judges...) (Exodus 21:6 also shows the judge use. Thus humans.)

Nephilim: Fallen Angels, Giants or Men? - The mystery of Genesis 6:1–4

"Explanation 2: Corrupt Authorities
Based on a more literal translation of benei elokim, many explain that the term is simply referring to princes, noblemen or judges11 who abused their power, raping anyone they fancied, and forcing any women who got married to have relations with them first.12 This, together with their many other sins, were what eventually led to the great flood.13

There are, however, differences of opinion as to whether the nephilim are simply the benei elokim after they had “fallen,” or if the term refers to the descendants of these bnei elokim.14

Explanation 3: Fallen Humans
Finally, there others who take a different approach and explain benei elokim to mean people who were—at least to begin with—on a spiritually high level. They are later called nephilim, for they or their descendants (or both) fell from their spiritual heights, became corrupted, and eventually brought G‑d’s wrath upon themselves by robbing, murdering and raping without hesitation.15"

I obviously go with two and three, regular humans, as Numbers calls the sons of Anak the Canaanite - naphilim.

And this -

"The Nephilim, litterally fallen ones, are the Bnai Elokim. The Bnai Elokim are sometimes translated as children of G-D, but the correct translation is children of the nobility.

Rashi, a famous commentator on the bible states that these men believed themselves to be above falling prey to the temptations of the world. However they fell from their lofty position.

EDIT: I HAVE ADDED THE FOLLOWING FOR CLARITY.

Another interpretation given is that these men were the nobility who begun having two wives. A breeder for children whom they treated like cattle and a trophy wife that was just for sexual gratification, but denied children. Nephilim in this context is a hint to the “fallen seed” that fell on the ground with their second wives. Since Nephilim means fallen one from the Hebrew root l’phol, to fall.

Sources: Midrash Tanchuma, Rashi on The Book of Genesis. Elazar Cohen of Jerusalem’s Old City." https://www.quora.com/Who-are-the-Nephilim-mentioned-in-the-Torah

Numbers names the groups they were afraid of - and calls Anak and sons nephilim.

Numbers tells us exactly whom they were afraid of, which includes the Canaanites which Anak is.

Num 13:2 Send thou men, that they may search the land of Canaan, which I give unto the children of Israel: of every tribe of their fathers shall ye send a man, every one a ruler among them.

Num 13:18 And see the land, what it is; and the people that dwelleth therein, whether they be strong or weak, few or many;

Num 13:22 And they ascended by the south, and came unto Hebron; where Ahiman, Sheshai, and Talmai, the children of Anak, were. (Now Hebron was built seven years before Zoan in Egypt.)

Num 13:28 Nevertheless the people be strong that dwell in the land, and the cities are walled, and very great: and moreover we saw the children of Anak there.

Num 13:29 The Amalekites dwell in the land of the south: and the Hittites, and the Jebusites, and the Amorites, dwell in the mountains: and the Canaanites dwell by the sea, and by the coast of Jordan.

Num 13:31 But the men that went up with him said, We be not able to go up against the people; for they are stronger than we.

Num 13:32 And they brought up an evil report of the land which they had searched unto the children of Israel, saying, The land, through which we have gone to search it, is a land that eateth up the inhabitants thereof; and all the people that we saw in it are men of a great stature.

Num 13:33 And there we saw the nephilim/giants, the sons of Anak, which come of the nephilim/giants: and we were in our own sight as grasshoppers, and so we were in their sight.

Num 14:25 (Now the Amalekites and the Canaanites dwelt in the valley.) To morrow turn you, and get you into the wilderness by the way of the Red sea.

Num 14:45 Then the Amalekites came down, and the Canaanites which dwelt in that hill, and smote them, and discomfited them, even unto Hormah.

Num 21:1 And when king Arad the Canaanite, which dwelt in the south, heard tell that Israel came by the way of the spies; then he fought against Israel, and took some of them prisoners.

Num 21:2 And Israel vowed a vow unto the LORD, and said, If thou wilt indeed deliver this people into my hand, then I will utterly destroy their cities.

Num 21:3 And the LORD hearkened to the voice of Israel, and delivered up the Canaanites; and they utterly destroyed them and their cities: and he called the name of the place Hormah.

We know Anak and children were Canaanites living on their land.

Also note it doesn't say they were as grasshoppers/locust. It says IN OUR OWN SIGHT. In other words they felt that way before these fierce warriors.

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Faithofchristian said:

I didn't say, Anak was a Giant, I said the Nephilim Giant's lived in the land of the Canaanites, Hittites, Amoriites Perizzites, Hivites, Jebusites, Amalekites.

But since you brought it up,
Numbers 13:33, does say, "And there we saw the Giants, the sons of Anak, which come of the Giants, and we were in our own sight as grasshoppers, and so we were in their sight"

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As already explained, - the word does NOT mean giants, - as the verses make clear. See # 15 above.

As to Job - Elohiym can be humans or angels, depending on the text. - Look the word up in your Strong's.

el-o-heem'

Plural of H433; gods in the ordinary sense; but specifically used (in the plural thus, especially with the article) of the supreme God; occasionally applied by way of deference to magistrates; and sometimes as a superlative: - angels, X exceeding, God (gods) (-dess, -ly), X (very) great, judges, X mighty.

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Ingledsva said:

I am well aware of LATER opinions ,,,

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Rubbish, Reread my post ... or not.

Faithofchristian said:

But as it maybe, that not all of the Nephilim Giant's were destroyed by the flood of Noah's.
That we find that during the time of Moses, That Moses sent spy's over into the land of the Amalekites, Hittites, Jebusites, Amorites and Canaanites, to see what people lived there in the land.

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Genesis 7:17-24
"The flooding continued for 40 days on the earth, and the waters kept increasing and began carrying the ark, and it was floating high above the earth. 18 The waters became overwhelming and kept increasing greatly upon the earth, but the ark floated on the surface of the waters. 19 The waters overwhelmed the earth so greatly that all the tall mountains under the whole heavens were covered. 20 The waters rose up to 15 cubits above the mountains.

21 So all living creatures that were moving on the earth perished—the flying creatures, the domestic animals, the wild animals, the swarming creatures, and all mankind. 22 Everything on dry land that had the breath of life in its nostrils died. 23 So He wiped every living thing from the surface of the earth, including man, animals, creeping animals, and the flying creatures of the sky. They were all wiped off the earth; only Noah and those with him in the ark survived. 24 And the waters continued overwhelming the earth for 150 days."

Since all living, breathing things died in the flood, there was no way for the Nephilim to survive. They were not sons of Adam but were creatures who had no divine right to live. They were therefore wiped out of existence.

The flood survivors no doubt had many stories to tell their descendants about the pre-flood conditions on the earth and the "giants" that caused all the trouble. Humans like to embellish stories as we see with the many flood legends in cultures all over the world.

Any person of unusual height was naturally deemed to be "Nephilim".....someone evoking fear and trepidation. That is why those of unusual size were called "Nephilim" by the faithless spies sent in to scope out the land into which they were going.

Only Joshua and Caleb had faith in God's strength to conquer the land's violent inhabitants. Caleb voiced his confidence in God....
"But the men who went up with him said: “We are not able to go up against the people, because they are stronger than we are.” 32 And they kept on giving the Israelites a bad report about the land that they had spied out, saying: “The land that we passed through to spy out is a land that devours its inhabitants, and all the people whom we saw in it are men of extraordinary size. 33 And there we saw the Nephʹi·lim, the sons of Aʹnak, who are from the Nephʹi·lim, and in comparison we seemed like grasshoppers, both to us and to them.” (Numbers 13:31-33)

By likening the "sons of Anak" to the Nephilim, they were trying to strike fear into the hearts of Israel. The Anakim were not Nephilim at all, since they were all wiped out in the flood....but were just a very tall race of people and the men of Israel had no faith in the power of their God to defeat them, in spite of the fact that he had delivered his people with an extraordinary display of his power both in Egypt and the Red Sea.

Jayhawker Soule said:

Rubbish, Reread my post ... or not.

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OK - I went back up and read it again.

The word also means magistrates, mighty, judges, etc.

el-o-heem'


Plural of H433; gods in the ordinary sense; but specifically used (in the plural thus, especially with the article) of the supreme God; occasionally applied by way of deference to magistrates; and sometimes as a superlative: - angels, X exceeding, God (gods) (-dess, -ly), X (very) great, judges, X mighty. Strong's

In Psa 82 they call the human people in charge/Judges/Kings etc., Elohiym.

Psa 82:1 A Psalm of Asaph. Elohiym/God standeth in the congregation of the mighty; he judgeth among the elohiym (mighty/judges/kings etc.)

Psa 82:2 How long will ye judge unjustly, and accept the persons of the wicked? Selah.

Psa 82:3 Defend the poor and fatherless: do justice to the afflicted and needy.

Psa 82:4 Deliver the poor and needy: rid them out of the hand of the wicked.

Psa 82:5 They know not, neither will they understand; they walk on in darkness: all the foundations of the earth are out of course.

Psa 82:6 I have said, Ye are Elohiym/judges/Kings; and all of you are bên (sons) of the most High.

Psa 82:7 But ye shall die like men, and fall like one of the princes.

Psa 82:8 Arise, O elohiym, judge the earth: for thou shalt inherit all nations.

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Deeje said:

Genesis 7:17-24
"The flooding continued for 40 days on the earth, and the waters kept increasing and began carrying the ark, and it was floating high above the earth. 18 The waters became overwhelming and kept increasing greatly upon the earth, but the ark floated on the surface of the waters. 19 The waters overwhelmed the earth so greatly that all the tall mountains under the whole heavens were covered. 20 The waters rose up to 15 cubits above the mountains.

21 So all living creatures that were moving on the earth perished—the flying creatures, the domestic animals, the wild animals, the swarming creatures, and all mankind. 22 Everything on dry land that had the breath of life in its nostrils died. 23 So He wiped every living thing from the surface of the earth, including man, animals, creeping animals, and the flying creatures of the sky. They were all wiped off the earth; only Noah and those with him in the ark survived. 24 And the waters continued overwhelming the earth for 150 days."

Since all living, breathing things died in the flood, there was no way for the Nephilim to survive. They were not sons of Adam but were creatures who had no divine right to live. They were therefore wiped out of existence.

The flood survivors no doubt had many stories to tell their descendants about the pre-flood conditions on the earth and the "giants" that caused all the trouble. Humans like to embellish stories as we see with the many flood legends in cultures all over the world.

Any person of unusual height was naturally deemed to be "Nephilim".....someone evoking fear and trepidation. That is why those of unusual size were called "Nephilim" by the faithless spies sent in to scope out the land into which they were going.

Only Joshua and Caleb had faith in God's strength to conquer the land's violent inhabitants. Caleb voiced his confidence in God....
"But the men who went up with him said: “We are not able to go up against the people, because they are stronger than we are.” 32 And they kept on giving the Israelites a bad report about the land that they had spied out, saying: “The land that we passed through to spy out is a land that devours its inhabitants, and all the people whom we saw in it are men of extraordinary size. 33 And there we saw the Nephʹi·lim, the sons of Aʹnak, who are from the Nephʹi·lim, and in comparison we seemed like grasshoppers, both to us and to them.” (Numbers 13:31-33)

By likening the "sons of Anak" to the Nephilim, they were trying to strike fear into the hearts of Israel. The Anakim were not Nephilim at all, since they were all wiped out in the flood....but were just a very tall race of people and the men of Israel had no faith in the power of their God to defeat them, in spite of the fact that he had delivered his people with an extraordinary display of his power both in Egypt and the Red Sea.

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Apparently not - as the story continues -

"Gen 9:18 And the sons of Noah, that went forth of the ark, were Shem, and Ham, and Japheth: and Ham is the father of Canaan.

Gen 9:19 These are the three sons of Noah: and of them was the whole earth overspread.

Gen 9:20 And Noah began to be an husbandman, and he planted a vineyard:

Gen 9:21 And he drank of the wine, and was drunken; and he was uncovered within his tent.

Gen 9:22 And Ham, the father of Canaan, saw the nakedness of his father, and told his two brethren without.

Gen 9:23 And Shem and Japheth took a garment, and laid it upon both their shoulders, and went backward, and covered the nakedness of their father; and their faces were backward, and they saw not their father's nakedness.

Gen 9:24 And Noah awoke from his wine, and knew what his younger son had done unto him.

Gen 9:25 And he said, Cursed be Canaan; a servant of servants shall he be unto his brethren.

Gen 9:26 And he said, Blessed be the LORD God of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant.

Gen 9:27 God shall enlarge Japheth, and he shall dwell in the tents of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant.

And Numbers 13 tells us the Canaanites are nephilim. So Ham's line continues the nephilim which are NOT Giants. They are the people gone astray.

Gen 10:6 And the sons of Ham; Cush, and Mizraim, and Phut, and Canaan.

Gen 10:7 And the sons of Cush; Seba, and Havilah, and Sabtah, and Raamah, and Sabtecha: and the sons of Raamah; Sheba, and Dedan.

Gen 10:8 And Cush begat Nimrod: he began to be a mighty one in the earth.

Gen 10:9 He was a mighty hunter before the LORD: wherefore it is said, Even as Nimrod the mighty hunter before the LORD.

Gen 10:10 And the beginning of his kingdom was Babel, and Erech, and Accad, and Calneh, in the land of Shinar.

Gen 10:11 Out of that land went forth Asshur, and builded Nineveh, and the city Rehoboth, and Calah,

Gen 10:12 And Resen between Nineveh and Calah: the same is a great city.

Gen 10:13 And Mizraim begat Ludim, and Anamim, and Lehabim, and Naphtuhim,

Gen 10:14 And Pathrusim, and Casluhim, (out of whom came Philistim,) and Caphtorim.

Gen 10:15 And Canaan begat Sidon his firstborn, and Heth,

Gen 10:16 And the Jebusite, and the Amorite, and the Girgasite,

Gen 10:17 And the Hivite, and the Arkite, and the Sinite,

Gen 10:18 And the Arvadite, and the Zemarite, and the Hamathite: and afterward were the families of the Canaanites spread abroad.

Gen 10:19 And the border of the Canaanites was from Sidon, as thou comest to Gerar, unto Gaza; as thou goest, unto Sodom, and Gomorrah, and Admah, and Zeboim, even unto Lasha.
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