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Life

Tmac

Active Member
Life comes into being and as soon it becomes aware of its self, self-conscious begins (who am I, what am I) and when a rudimentary solution to the questions is met, life becomes conscious and it now questions (where am I and why am I).

When life entered self consciousness it began working on the questions (who am I, what am I) with its intellect, its imagination, its emotion and its memory. (I've excluded the body because as Life sought answers to who am I and what am I the body was experiencing constant metamorphosis and had yet to find its voice) The imagination put forth a thought, the intellect examined it, it was accepted by the emotion and recorded by the memory and life moved on to consciousness now that it had established an image in which it could relate. And life invests itself into the body so that it knows itself and the body became animated.

We are descendants of that moment and because it is life that animates us we experience what life has experienced in becoming aware and understanding itself. Apparently, we are all at different stages of that moment, like Humpy Dumpy after the fall, each of us can see the solution through that stage which we are experiencing knowing that we fit perfectly into the solution even though we can not yet remember the solution. We are a dysfunctional family that knows its self as a family but does not know how to be a family, we are a unit that doesn't know how to act as one.

And most importantly we waste life while we have it, arguing over the solution, never to experience the fullness that is life.
 

Curious George

Veteran Member
Life comes into being and as soon it becomes aware of its self, self-conscious begins (who am I, what am I) and when a rudimentary solution to the questions is met, life becomes conscious and it now questions (where am I and why am I).

When life entered self consciousness it began working on the questions (who am I, what am I) with its intellect, its imagination, its emotion and its memory. (I've excluded the body because as Life sought answers to who am I and what am I the body was experiencing constant metamorphosis and had yet to find its voice) The imagination put forth a thought, the intellect examined it, it was accepted by the emotion and recorded by the memory and life moved on to consciousness now that it had established an image in which it could relate. And life invests itself into the body so that it knows itself and the body became animated.

We are descendants of that moment and because it is life that animates us we experience what life has experienced in becoming aware and understanding itself. Apparently, we are all at different stages of that moment, like Humpy Dumpy after the fall, each of us can see the solution through that stage which we are experiencing knowing that we fit perfectly into the solution even though we can not yet remember the solution. We are a dysfunctional family that knows its self as a family but does not know how to be a family, we are a unit that doesn't know how to act as one.

And most importantly we waste life while we have it, arguing over the solution, never to experience the fullness that is life.
Is a tree then not life? Or is a tree not a being? Or is a tree aware of itself? And, of course, why?
 

Tmac

Active Member
Is a tree then not life? Or is a tree not a being? Or is a tree aware of itself? And, of course, why?

You have chosen your moniker well, have fun answering your own question, I would think in order to answer those question one would probably have to know what it is to be a tree.
 

atanu

Member
Premium Member
I'll give you a clue, it is what you are experiencing and I didn't say it came into being at a point in time, you did.

Well. I thought you said "Life comes into being" in the OP. While that is the common wisdom, I wish to understand.

The red part is good.
 

Curious George

Veteran Member
You have chosen your moniker well, have fun answering your own question, I would think in order to answer those question one would probably have to know what it is to be a tree.
I wonder if you are taking liberties with definitions here and in your previous post. Semantics is a fun game, but are you playing because it sounds sagely or because words fail to articulate your thoughts? If it is the latter, why articulate any such thoughts with words?
 

SalixIncendium

अग्निविलोवनन्दः
Staff member
Premium Member
Life comes into being and as soon it becomes aware of its self, self-conscious begins (who am I, what am I) and when a rudimentary solution to the questions is met, life becomes conscious and it now questions (where am I and why am I).

When life entered self consciousness it began working on the questions (who am I, what am I) with its intellect, its imagination, its emotion and its memory. (I've excluded the body because as Life sought answers to who am I and what am I the body was experiencing constant metamorphosis and had yet to find its voice) The imagination put forth a thought, the intellect examined it, it was accepted by the emotion and recorded by the memory and life moved on to consciousness now that it had established an image in which it could relate. And life invests itself into the body so that it knows itself and the body became animated.

We are descendants of that moment and because it is life that animates us we experience what life has experienced in becoming aware and understanding itself. Apparently, we are all at different stages of that moment, like Humpy Dumpy after the fall, each of us can see the solution through that stage which we are experiencing knowing that we fit perfectly into the solution even though we can not yet remember the solution. We are a dysfunctional family that knows its self as a family but does not know how to be a family, we are a unit that doesn't know how to act as one.

And most importantly we waste life while we have it, arguing over the solution, never to experience the fullness that is life.

Please tell me you have a mouse in your pocket, because it would be quite arrogant of you to presume to speak for me.
 

Tmac

Active Member
Well. I thought you said "Life comes into being" in the OP. While that is the common wisdom, I wish to understand.

The red part is good.

I wish to understand as well so lets think, we know life exists or at least that is what we believe we are experiencing so when life came into being did time exist? Possibly but what function would it serve?
 

Tmac

Active Member
Please tell me you have a mouse in your pocket, because it would be quite arrogant of you to presume to speak for me.

I would never think of speaking for you although I do hope you find your own voice, I am speaking of life, that which we are all but a part.
 

Tmac

Active Member
I wonder if you are taking liberties with definitions here and in your previous post. Semantics is a fun game, but are you playing because it sounds sagely or because words fail to articulate your thoughts? If it is the latter, why articulate any such thoughts with words?


Honestly George, I don't understand how you understand my thought, you keep trying to take it into your world. I put no limits on life, apparently you do.
 

Curious George

Veteran Member
Honestly George, I don't understand how you understand my thought,
It is one of my uncanny abilities.
you keep trying to take it into your world. I put no limits on life, apparently you do.
This is an unfortunate trait that we all share to greater or lesser degrees. Usually, I am not guilty of such an offense. You think I am, I think I am not. So our problem here is whether this is one of the times where I am. How could we ever sort such a question? Or is sorting such a question even possible?
 

SalixIncendium

अग्निविलोवनन्दः
Staff member
Premium Member
I would never think of speaking for you although I do hope you find your own voice, I am speaking of life, that which we are all but a part.

You needn't worry yourself about me finding my own voice. :)

It would appear what you are referring to as "life" ITT is comparable to Saguna Brahman (Brahman with infinite attributes).
 

idav

Being
Premium Member
And most importantly we waste life while we have it, arguing over the solution, never to experience the fullness that is life.
What makes you say “we” do such a thing?

Yes life is bigger than our egos but why and how are wonderful questions. Let’s not presume people don’t get how important experience is. People have been expressing such things as long as humans could fathom it.
 

Tmac

Active Member
What makes you say “we” do such a thing?

Yes life is bigger than our egos but why and how are wonderful questions. Let’s not presume people don’t get how important experience is. People have been expressing such things as long as humans could fathom it.

You did read the part about arguing over the solution, life has arrived at a solution and moved on, we on the other hand spend most of if not all of our life arguing on how a + b = c.
 

Tmac

Active Member
It is one of my uncanny abilities.

This is an unfortunate trait that we all share to greater or lesser degrees. Usually, I am not guilty of such an offense. You think I am, I think I am not. So our problem here is whether this is one of the times where I am. How could we ever sort such a question? Or is sorting such a question even possible?

I don't know, do you want to talk about life of do you want to talk about trees. Life I have experience with, trees I have climbed, cut down, hugged and when I listened real hard I thought I could hear a heart beat but then maybe it was my own.
 

Tmac

Active Member
You needn't worry yourself about me finding my own voice. :)

It would appear what you are referring to as "life" ITT is comparable to Saguna Brahman (Brahman with infinite attributes).

Possibly, I haven't read all the books, is ITT a typo? I do know that all we believe life to be comes from within life itself.
 

idav

Being
Premium Member
You did read the part about arguing over the solution, life has arrived at a solution and moved on, we on the other hand spend most of if not all of our life arguing on how a + b = c.
Do we? I go with the Buddhist idea that life experience is above that of intellectual contemplation. So I’m not sure who this “we” is.
 

David T

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Is a tree then not life? Or is a tree not a being? Or is a tree aware of itself? And, of course, why?
Dang that was my instant thought. all questions and statements of consciousness are old it's a fundemental in church. It's the old" do trees go heaven?" Orthodoxy says absutely not only aspergers goes to heaven mystics are of the devil and heresy, unless they can articulate in such a way as our pinhead understanding can grasp it and affirm our" belief" without threatening our sense of reality at the same time. ....omg life is crazy.

Lol I just point to hildegard von debingen as a mystic who managed to do exactly that!!!! Lol to funny and btw a very very difficult thing to actually do. Usually they got killed. Aspergers is a goofy bunch.
 
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