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This does not support your position or show our position, but for some reason you don't know what our position is. In several threads now I've pointed out the biblical fallacy of your claim, but you keep replying with paranoid claims. You actually called me a Satanist. That's just...like...very cult like behavior. Anybody but you is a Satanist? Not scriptural. For whatever reason you think it is, its not.
Yes i have, and have not been called any such thing.
My liberal beliefs include the fact that there absolutely positively is no such thing as a trinity in God. There absolutely positively is no such thing as hell. Homosexual people have just as much chance of inheriting the kingdom of God as anyone else, if not more so. Oh, and atheists too.
And I consider myself 100% Christian in tune with God’s word.
So what do think about that?
I also reject the trinity and hellfire....and all humans have a shot at life IMV too. God holds no past deed against anyone who is repentant. His power to forgive is bigger than any sin of the flesh.
I for one find your posts very reasonable Gerry.
However, having said that, in Eden God demonstrated that his mercy and forgiveness have limits. Nowhere is there a single statement of remorse or a request for forgiveness from the first pair. The reason for that is that they had no sinful nature to use as a reason for their disobedience. They were without defect and therefore what they did was a wilful and deliberate act, resulting in the death penalty being implemented on the very day that ate the forbidden fruit. They virtually "unplugged" themselves from the protective power of their Creator and began to die that very day. Kicked out of their paradise home, where God had provided so bountifully for them, they then had to eke out a miserable existence on cursed ground for the rest of their lives. There was no basis upon which their sin could be forgiven.
God's command to them originally was to "fill the earth" with their kind. God allowed them to do that before death finally caught up with them. Adam's children would be saved from this inherited death sentence by God when he provided a savior sent on a mission to redeem them with his own life, paying the debt Adam left to them.
Adam and his wife died without regaining God's favor, but their children were plunged into a situation from which they could not recover on their own. (Romans 5:12) God provided a way to save them.
Part of the defect in humans is the propensity to make bad decisions and to exhibit faults in their genetics, be they inherited diseases or physical deformities or even gender issues. These will all be dealt with by the Kingdom that Jesus taught us to pray for. When the "Kingdom comes" only then will "God's will be done on earth as it is in heaven".
I for one look forward to seeing all those issues sorted out, right here on earth, with a joyful outcome for all those who obeyed the teachings of Jesus and his apostles regardless of the difficulty. Jesus came so that Adam's children could see the fulfillment of God's original purpose...to have the earth filled with righteous humans all serving and praising their Sovereign Creator....forever.
Jesus chose a relative "few" to assist him in the role of kings and priests. (Revelation 20:6) Only these will go to heaven. God's original purpose for man was to live forever on earth in the most beautiful conditions.
Imagine waking up to a world like this every day, knowing that no evil people exist in this place?
Insert your own vision of paradise.....
If man can't live on bread alone, why bother eating it?
Ummmm probably because man can eat lots of other things.....some are good for him, some are not.
Soon we hope.
You live in Australia. That's not a Rubbish dump.Those pictures are programmed into the hearts of those who love God. They love what he loves. He created what we love but a knowledge of good and evil made his choices bad ones, taking away a lot of the beautiful things that we humans enjoy. Finding unspoiled places is getting harder and harder. We were never meant to live in a rubbish dump.
The clean up crew is coming!!!
Yes - but the real test is when you discover it isn't...what then? Are you permitted to openly criticize the beliefs you once held and then found were not "right" after all? Are you permitted to interpret or reinterpret the religious dogma and tenets of your own "faith"? That's the real test of tolerance. That's the beef @SinSaber seems to have with liberal Christians - they reject conservative and traditional interpretations in favour of more radical and rational versions and it is clear from the language that this is perceived as a threat. But in reality, how so? If one really did have "the Truth", the one and only "right" religious view - what possible threat could mistaken opposition pose? How could any fallible humanist or secular thinking pose any real and present danger to the conservative faithful?
Has it occurred to you that you've just called anyone and everyone who is religious, a "bigot?"
Bingo!
Tolerance has the implicit understanding that, "I believe you are wrong. But I'm going to allow you to continue in your error."
Until the conservative metaphorically says, "This is the hill I'm going to die on."... And then the flame war starts!
Faith is matter of opinion so error is subjective in such cases.