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A Republican Party that supported Roy Moore is no party for Christian conservatives

Skipper

Wrong is wrong,/ Make America moral again.
Sadly, the only moral issues the GOP seems interested in are ones they will gather them votes, i.e. abortion and homosexuality. My feeling is that is a sham and they really have no interest in morals outside of gathering votes. They trumpeted family values for years, but show they have no interest in family values by supporting candidates who are sexually bankrupt morally and whose lives show they have no idea of the concept of fidelity. This is no party for a Christian to support IMHO.

From: A Republican Party that supported Roy Moore is no party for Christian conservatives

The Republican Party has cast itself as the defender of family values in a world swirling with oppositional forces. Such a platform appeals to us, as Mormon women. We believe that “the family is ordained of God” and have been given a charge to “to maintain and strengthen the family as the fundamental unit of society.”

But is the Republican Party advocating for strong families? The endorsement of Roy Moore to the Senate stands out as the latest and most potent example of how the GOP has lost its way. That Moore lost the election is no cause for endless celebration. The Republican Party chose to support him and so did a large portion of voters.

Uniting and Strengthening White Families

“I think [America] was great at the time when families were united — even though we had slavery — they cared for one another. Our families were strong, our country had a direction.”

The alarming conclusion we draw from this statement is that Moore believes that when white families are united, our country is great. To say that our country was great when slave families were ripped apart and many of God’s children were denied the right to “life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness” is in conflict with our belief that “the worth of souls is great in the sight of God.” Recognizing the dignity and inherent worth of each individual leads us to condemn the past sins of slavery, not to romanticize them, and to “eliminate any prejudice, including racism, sexism, and nationalism. Such statements by Moore, combined with his winning 48 percent of the Alabama vote, force us to ask whether unifying and strengthening black families is even a priority for the GOP or its membership.

Sexual Abuse and the Soul

Sexual aggression has a profound effect on all involved, both in body and soul. Neither political party holds the moral high ground here, but the Republican position as professed defenders of the family makes their collective inability to take a stand against the sexual exploitation of children the very definition of hypocrisy. Party leaders fell in line to support Moore, despite repeated and credible claims that he preyed on and assaulted young girls. The justification that the Republican agenda is more important than removing from power one who would use that power to abuse and exploit only escalates this concern.

GOP leaders hid behind arguments that "the people of Alabama should be able to choose," thus shifting responsibility away from individual leaders to take a strong moral stand. This ducking should not surprise us, considering that we have already watched it play out during a presidential election with a candidate who had similar allegations against him.
 

Shiranui117

Pronounced Shee-ra-noo-ee
Premium Member
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The "Religious Right" is only religiously inclined on a few issues. Everything else, they buy into the American civic religion of leaving everything and everyone else to the wolves. "It'll help them build character." Single mothers working full-time to put food on the table for their kids? Let's not worry about initiating childcare programs or care packages. Children and women being victimized by abusive family members? Once the perpetrator is in jail it's all good. We don't need to worry about helping the victims get through counseling or therapy. Divorce rate is 50%? Meh, that's life. Older people are increasingly suffering from dementia and other debilitating diseases and their families are having a tough time taking care of them? Oh come on now, do they really need that much financial assistance in giving their elders a dignified rest of their lives and do we really have to start investing in mental health research?
 

Kemosloby

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
You could see it like Jesus said. The hypocrites teach correctly, do as they say not as they do. At least the Republicans support moral values, though the canditate may be morally bankrupt.
 

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
You could see it like Jesus said. The hypocrites teach correctly, do as they say not as they do. At least the Republicans support moral values, though the canditate may be morally bankrupt.

What exactly is moral about engaging in intellectual dishonesty, supplanting science with superstition, proliferating poverty, facilitating bigotry, and eroding rights and liberty?
 

Aldrnari

Active Member
You could see it like Jesus said. The hypocrites teach correctly, do as they say not as they do. At least the Republicans support moral values, though the canditate may be morally bankrupt.

The enemy of my enemy is my friend (even if he is worse than my enemy), eh?
 

Kemosloby

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
The enemy of my enemy is my friend (even if he is worse than my enemy), eh?

Like I said, if the hypocrite teaches correctly and votes correctly...soon the hypocrite would be gone and at least the law wouldn't suffer for it.
 

tytlyf

Not Religious
At least the Republicans support moral values, though the canditate may be morally bankrupt.
Did GOP media teach you that for the past decade? You do realize that the majority of democrats (by a long shot) are white christians? There is nothing moral about the republican party. But they'll tell you they are. Never trust the RW performance artists, it's a trick for your vote.
 

Kemosloby

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Did GOP media teach you that for the past decade? You do realize that the majority of democrats (by a long shot) are white christians? There is nothing moral about the republican party. But they'll tell you they are. Never trust the RW performance artists, it's a trick for your vote.

No, the media didn't teach me anything. I have eyes. Since the beginning there were white christians teaching the grace of God as a license for immorality. They didn't call them Democrats in the bible but if the shoe fits.

Jude 1:4 New International Version
For certain individuals whose condemnation was written about long ago have secretly slipped in among you. They are ungodly people, who pervert the grace of our God into a license for immorality and deny Jesus Christ our only Sovereign and Lord.
 

Brickjectivity

wind and rain touch not this brain
Staff member
Premium Member
You could see it like Jesus said. The hypocrites teach correctly, do as they say not as they do. At least the Republicans support moral values, though the canditate may be morally bankrupt.
Politics certainly does seem murky in general and attracts some pretty bad actors. Sometimes the bad ones get philanthropic towards the end, but sometimes they go nuts and start killing everyone. Its a good thing we have term limits and that people don't live far past 70.
 

tytlyf

Not Religious
No, the media didn't teach me anything. I have eyes. Since the beginning there were white christians teaching the grace of God as a license for immorality. They didn't call them Democrats in the bible but if the shoe fits.

Jude 1:4 New International Version
For certain individuals whose condemnation was written about long ago have secretly slipped in among you. They are ungodly people, who pervert the grace of our God into a license for immorality and deny Jesus Christ our only Sovereign and Lord.
What party supports middle class policies and helping the poor? Would jesus vote republican? There's nothing moral about corporate policies. But these elitists will play the religion card for your vote. It's disgraceful.
 

Kemosloby

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
What party supports middle class policies and helping the poor? Would jesus vote republican? There's nothing moral about corporate policies. But these elitists will play the religion card for your vote. It's disgraceful.

Jesus was ok with people being poor. He told his people to take no money with them, " a workman is worth his wages". Jesus wanted his people working hard to get their money.
 

tytlyf

Not Religious
Jesus was ok with people being poor. He told his people to take no money with them, " a workman is worth his wages". Jesus wanted his people working hard to get their money.
So jesus told people to 'take no money with them' but wanted them slaving 60 hours a week to acquire that money they're not supposed to have?

"I'll say it again--it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich person to enter the Kingdom of God!"
-Matthew 19:24
 

Kemosloby

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
So jesus told people to 'take no money with them' but wanted them slaving 60 hours a week to acquire that money they're not supposed to have?

"I'll say it again--it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich person to enter the Kingdom of God!"
-Matthew 19:24

No he just said take no money, a workman is worth his wages. I guess a good workman could get the job done faster than a bad workman and find some leisure time.
 

tytlyf

Not Religious
No he just said take no money, a workman is worth his wages. I guess a good workman could get the job done faster than a bad workman and find some leisure time.
The unemployment rate in America is around 4%. Not sure where you're getting the notion people aren't working and getting a free ride
 

Kemosloby

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
The unemployment rate in America is around 4%. Not sure where you're getting the notion people aren't working and getting a free ride

So there you go. Corporate policies are keeping people working and there is little need for democratic policy to rescue the poor.
 

Kemosloby

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
... that’s not how most jobs work.

No, neither party would have it that way. I remember Obama's words after handing out half a trillion to the rich. "Americans will have to work longer hours for less pay" -Obama
 

columbus

yawn <ignore> yawn
Not according to Washington Phillips. He calls it a job

I don't find Mr Washington Phillips particularly authoritative.
The fact remains, the "workman" being referred to is an itinerant preacher, not a farmer or trader or something useful like that. Do you even read the Bible, other than for finding things to support your opinions?
Tom
 
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