The Bible and aliens

Thank you for providing me alternative viewing.

I watched the first video. But again, I don't think astroturfing and climate science are a perfect fit. She may be trying to astro-turf the main stream from a minority post. I have been prescribed drugs that I knew from reading the ads had problems like loss of vision or other terrible things and I chose smart medicine instead - it must be smart because I've taken them for ten years and I am completely free of disease with good bio-stats. Also, I know they help me with my mental problems. As for whether climate scientists astro-turf, no I think they debate maturely. I'm sorry if I astro-turfed you about it myself though. I was a poor example but I did it only because I wanted to help you and thought I could snap you out of it quickly... something some scientists might try because they are frustrated that there should be confusion. That is not what most real scientists do however with climate science. I think it is more like a race for funding and those who are not in it for the money should be trusted, but I'm not sure all the climate scientists make lots of money. In many cases those who go to the dark side make more money.

You think climate science is an exclusive club with mean rules to outsiders... join the club! That's how many branches of science run. So if you really want to convert them you will have to pick them off one by one with smart science to contradict their science... I don't think from what I've read of yours that this has been done... I think you are being a little fooled by misleading rhetoric on your own side... remember that there is always room for a couple of professors at a University to say "I want to be rich... I'll just go against the mainstream because I can convert all the dummies." It's sad but true.

We know all too well how much money is being thrown at those who deny climate science... we don't need to name names... please don't call this one-sided. Hillary Clinton said that nobody should say they know climate science is wrong.

Do I have to watch the second video?... I believe in an infinitely large infinitely old Universe, whether or not there were intermittent big bangs occasionally or constantly.

Of course you do not have to watch the second video, but if you are not familiar with the scientific explanation of red shift due to something other than an expanding universe, then I am sure it will be an eye opener.

Concerning global climate change, well you have your position, I have mine, This petition from Dr. Richard Lindzen sent to President Trump, asking the President to withdraw the United States from the United Nations Convention on Climate Change, provides the names of 300 scientists with knowledge appropriate for the understanding of the status if climate science as it now stands, and who are ready to support the Trump team in answering any and all inquiries that the Trump Team may have, may signal the end of the agw religion.

For that I will be very happy for the human race going forward.... Link... https://cloudup.com/iHcBpTDmCNu

I am very familiar with redshift and even have some of my own ideas about why it is observed.

The 97% consensus on global warming

I am just making reference... you only have to read this:

"1) Depending on exactly how you measure the expert consensus, it’s somewhere between 90% and 100% that agree humans are responsible for climate change, with most of our studies finding 97% consensus among publishing climate scientists.

2) The greater the climate expertise among those surveyed, the higher the consensus on human-caused global warming."

When did Donald Trump ever promise that, and why can't something be a greenhouse gas and not a pollutant at the same time?

If you believe the 97% claim, you would believe a lie. John Cook is the source of the claim, he is an agw activist, he is not a climate scientist, nor a scientist period. The 97% claim is not taken seriously by most scientists, even by scientists who participated in the study, because the methodology was flawed...read about it below..

Global Warming Alarmists Caught Doctoring '97-Percent Consensus' Claims... Global Warming Alarmists Caught Doctoring '97-Percent Consensus' Claims

97 Articles Refuting The "97% Consensus"... populartechnology.net/2014/12/97-articles-refuting-97-consensus.html

Survey of 1800 scientists: The ‘97% consensus’ is now 43% –... http://www.climatedepot.com/2015/07...e-scientists-agree-with-un-ipcc-95-certainty/

This is just, "is your guy talking or is my guy talking," and Forbes isn't exactly a good source; the others I don't even know.

It is obvious that the percentage is way up there or we'd have heard about it already.

robocop (actually) said:

This is just, "is your guy talking or is my guy talking," and Forbes isn't exactly a good source; the others I don't even know.

It is obvious that the percentage is way up there or we'd have heard about it already.

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You did just hear about it and you ignore the message. Read the facts, some of the skeptical scientists who agreed to respond to the John Cook survey claim they finished up being a part of the 97%.. haha.. Read the Popular Technology article, in fact all of them.

Never mind.

We will not convince each other... there is no point...

Fine....until next time..

Are you satisfied that I gave you enough attention?

I am satisfied for now, it requires time to both improve the understanding and to have the latest extended recorded temperature data available with which to compare with the IPCC GCMs, so everyone should be patient.

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I finally read this, or over 90% of it. I didn't look up what every thing means, but if I were to sum it up in four letters it would be "HOPE." Thank you so much for sharing this; do you know if I can link to it in a future book I write?

Looks like the poster has a page for every detail!

robocop (actually) said:

I finally read this, or over 90% of it. I didn't look up what every thing means, but if I were to sum it up in four letters it would be "HOPE." Thank you so much for sharing this; do you know if I can link to it in a future book I write?

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I would imagine it would be ok, there is a contact link on the bottom of the page, you can check with them.

We talked about artificial time travel near the beginning of this thread. I can look up where if you want.

I thought of another form of time travel to the past and back, this time for real. If you know the future, you can do something about it, and send your effect into the future. That is really time travel and you can go yourself.

robocop (actually) said:

Hi!
The avatar does not mean Adolf Hitler who stole the inside; it originally meant love and peace for thousands of years and all over the East. For us it means "infinity in time and space" and "genius to our creators.

Our creators are not "God", but aliens. I would like to know what you think about the Bible from Genesis 1 to about the end of Luke. As a Raelian I think that the word for "God" in the Bible means "those who came from the sky". You can translate "those who came from the sky" in a translate engine and it should start and end with the letters of "God."

Anyway I promise to be honest, direct and respectful and appeal to an angry poster as best I can. My IQ is 127; I can't just beat everyone intellectually but I feel that my position the aliens are the "Gods" of the Bible is strong. I'd like to hear what you think.

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Somebody has probs already asked you this but, what is the meaning of Nephilim from the beginning of Genesis 6?

The Nephilim are quoted in Genesis 6:1-4. Nephil means offspring of God and man or in my case aliens and man. Not only did aliens create us out of DNA like themselves, they made it so we could reproduce with them. These were powerful offspring because they could get along with humans and rule as aliens. "im" means plural.

If you take "Nephilim" to mean giants it is interesting that "Nephi" in the Book of Mormon was large of stature.

robocop (actually) said:

Hi!
The avatar does not mean Adolf Hitler who stole the inside; it originally meant love and peace for thousands of years and all over the East. For us it means "infinity in time and space" and "genius to our creators.

Our creators are not "God", but aliens. I would like to know what you think about the Bible from Genesis 1 to about the end of Luke. As a Raelian I think that the word for "God" in the Bible means "those who came from the sky". You can translate "those who came from the sky" in a translate engine and it should start and end with the letters of "God."

Anyway I promise to be honest, direct and respectful and appeal to an angry poster as best I can. My IQ is 127; I can't just beat everyone intellectually but I feel that my position the aliens are the "Gods" of the Bible is strong. I'd like to hear what you think.

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I would like to get your feedback on this idea put forward by a near death experiencer?

Spirituality

What about beings from other planets, do you think they visit here?

Yes I do. And I think those who have been permitted to cross over into our world have been doing so for a very long time now (for a very important purpose) as Divinely arranged by Heaven. Since my NDE, because of a few things I was shown, it is now my deep belief that some of the more phenomenal events depicted in the Old Testament (such as the Great flood of Noah, the parting of the Red Sea for Moses, the mass explosion of Sodom and Gomorrah, etc) are not only very true, but were moments in time which were orchestrated and performed by beings of a much higher order and intelligence than our ownwho may have volunteered their technology and understandings or even sent to help guide and shape a culture within humanity during a pressing time within its development and evolution." (Christian Andreason)

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I didn't read all of it (I looked at the section), but this person seems to know how to describe religion from many facets very well. I find I can handle them but I will cover the facets relevant to Extra-Terrestrials.

Yes I believe Extra-Terrestrials did those things, created us and created our religions according to our development and era. NDEs are your brain oxygenating itself in hopes it can survive, but that doesn't mean there isn't some aspect of "Heaven" and "Hell" in them which I will talk about soon. We are all cut from the same cloth, so in positive NDEs we will all experience our prophets in similar circumstances. Some of them seem to be beyond normal NDEs like this one though. However it may be that this person just had a better connection to what the deprived brain does. We may all have this knowledge ready for us if there is an NDE but for some reason this person had a better connection. We can also be cloned into a "Heaven" or "Hell" from which we won't return. There is no "Heaven" or "Hell" by Universal law.

They want us to survive internally and reward good behavior. Nothing ultimately matters, but if you want them to reward you with their own Heaven then I would advise Matthew 5:44, the Rabbinical statement, and especially to help or be a genius since geniuses save us. I would advise you to do it without worrying about Heaven, but stories and NDEs about Heaven were meant to be so I guess you can expect a reward.

The only things that will save the Earth are laughter, art, egoless love and meditation. We need to have peace, non-aggressiveness and non-violence. These not just help us in where we get cloned but are healthy for society and the individual as well.