Speaking of Christmas

URAVIP2ME said:

And what do you find was done 'sort of gradually' according to Acts of the Apostles 20:29-30 but an apostasy.
So, I finds by the end of the second century the apostasy was well on its way

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Again, this makes no sense on multiple counts. First of all, you simply avoided what I mentioned about the early church vis-a-vis Jewish Law given by God to Moses.

Secondly, what we see in Acts itself are some changes that are being made and no where are these changes condemned as being intrinsically "apostasy". During the 2nd century, much like during the 1st century, some changes needed to be made.

No church today reflects the dynamics of the original church, nor should they as times and conditions change. Even Paul went well beyond what Jesus taught, so was he slipping into "apostasy" as well as the other apostles?

Thirdly, since Jesus said he would guide his church until the end of time, and since "church" means "community", which community was Jesus referring to, especially reinforced by Paul's repeated statements that the church needed to be of "one body"?

And finally, it was the church that you say slipped into "apostasy" that selected the canon that your Bible is from, so if the church was in "apostasy", then doesn't that pretty much completely taint the Bible you use?

metis said:

Neither did they drive cars, so according to what you're saying, cars are "pagan", therefore evil.
There's simply nothing about celebrating a birthday that is evil in any way. By itself, it does not deny God. Nor is the recognition of Jesus' presence and birth evil in any way, but it may be evil by making something so beautiful evil.

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I suppose the chariot was the ' car ' of the day. I don't think most people owned chariots, but there is No scripture saying anything wrong about driving either cars or chariots, etc.

Right, birth days (the day of one's birth) however, is Not an annual celebration of that persons day of birth.
There is a difference between the happiness at the birth of a person, and setting aside an annual day to honor that person for being born on a specific day, a day in which they had No control over, and made No choice over that day.
Who is the center of attention being served according to Romans 1:25 ___________.
What happened at the birthday celebration found at Genesis 39:20-22
What happened at the birthday celebration found at Mark 6:21-27

metis said:

Again, this makes no sense on multiple counts. First of all, you simply avoided what I mentioned about the early church vis-a-vis Jewish Law given by God to Moses.
Secondly, what we see in Acts itself are some changes that are being made and no where are these changes condemned as being intrinsically "apostasy". During the 2nd century, much like during the 1st century, some changes needed to be made.
No church today reflects the dynamics of the original church, nor should they as times and conditions change. Even Paul went well beyond what Jesus taught, so was he slipping into "apostasy" as well as the other apostles?
Thirdly, since Jesus said he would guide his church until the end of time, and since "church" means "community", which community was Jesus referring to, especially reinforced by Paul's repeated statements that the church needed to be of "one body"?
And finally, it was the church that you say slipped into "apostasy" that selected the canon that your Bible is from, so if the church was in "apostasy", then doesn't that pretty much completely taint the Bible you use?

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I did Not avoid Acts of the Apostles 20:29-30, but I see No comment about what Luke wrote in those verses.
The Bible is Not tainted by the fake ' weed/tares ' Christians and they can't stop the genuine ' wheat ' Christians from fulfilling their role to tell the whole world about the good news of God's kingdom of Daniel 2:44 just as Jesus said it would be guided to do so and is now being done on a vast grand international scale as never before in 'church' ( Christian Congregation ) history. Matthew 24:14 is guided by Jesus until the end time of Matthew 24:13. 'End of time' as in meaning the end of one's lifetime, or the soon coming ' time of separation ' end to take place on Earth as per Matthew 25:31-33,37 when the living people on Earth will be separated by Jesus, as Shepherd, when Jesus places the figurative humble ' sheep'-like people at his right hand of favor, and they can continue to live on Earth right into the beginning or start of calendar Day One of Jesus' coming 1,000-year governmental rule over Earth begins. Then mankind will even see 'the end' of their ' last enemy ' as mentioned at 1 Corinthians 15:26.