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Prominent Marks of the True Church of the Lord Today
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God is the ONe teaching His flocks today and not the bible for the bible is only a testimony to the reality of the existence of the Lord God. Though they are permitted by the Lord God to be written (meaning of inspired by God or "God breathed"), God did not tell anyone to make them the manual and standard of God that all mankind should use in knowing God and all things. God is the real standard and the only source and final authority in all TRUTH. Don't you want the Lord God to be your actual Good Pastor and TEacher of the bible which you are making equal to God by your statement above. Always put God above all things first.may said:
Yes God is the one teaching his people , they are all taught by Jehovah , and their peace is abundant,adlemi said:
"They will all be taught by Jehovah."JOHN 6:45.
And all your sons will be persons taught by Jehovah, and the peace of your sons will be abundant. Isaiah 54;13 and Jehovah said listen to Jesus.
"This is my Son, the beloved, whom I have approved; listen to him." (Matthew 17:1-5)
because Jesus is teaching us things from Jehovah , Jesus was taught by Jehovah and Jesus is like God,
(John 12:49) because I have not spoken out of my own impulse, but the Father himself who sent me has given me a commandment as to what to tell and what to speak.
and in turn those who are taught by Jesus will teach others. the bible is such a great thing from Jehovah , it teaches us many important things that lead to everlasting life.
And Jesus approached and spoke to them, saying: "All authority has been given me in heaven and on the earth. 19 Go therefore and make disciples of people of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the holy spirit, 20 TEACHING them to observe all the things I have commanded YOU. And, look! I am with YOU all the days until the conclusion of the system of things. Yes the christian congregation that is carrying on the teaching and disciple making work is alive and well , and the bible is their aurthority. because the bible is from God.
sorry to butt in here , as you are answering adlemi, but i am over joyed I have found who the Almighty is ,adlemi said:
the bible tells me , Psalm 83;18That people may know that you, whose name is Jehovah,
You alone are the Most High over all the earth........... and Jesus also knew who he was and told us how to pray to him .
YOU must pray, then, this way:
"Our Father in the heavens, let your name be sanctified. 10 Let your kingdom come. Let your will take place, as in heaven, also upon earth. matthew 6;9 isnt the bible a great book it teaches us many things about Almighty God Jehovah and Jesus christ. looking to the bible we can gain knowledge about Jehovah and Jesus christ , and taking in this knowledge leads to everlasting life . if we listen to Jesus.This means everlasting life, their taking in knowledge of you, the only true God, and of the one whom you sent forth, Jesus Christ. John 17;3 yes its all in the bible .
Whatever you say, all I know is that God is still talking to people today as in the days of the biblical times. We are experiencing God alive and real and it is up for mankind whom to believe and we are just spreading the good new from God.may said:sorry to butt in here , as you are answering adlemi, but i am over joyed I have found who the Almighty is ,
That people may know that you, whose name is Jehovah,
You alone are the Most High over all the earth........... and Jesus also knew who he was and told us how to pray to him .
YOU must pray, then, this way:"Our Father in the heavens, let your name be sanctified. 10 Let your kingdom come. Let your will take place, as in heaven, also upon earth. matthew 6;9 isnt the bible a great book it teaches us many things about Almighty God Jehovah and Jesus christ. looking to the bible we can gain knowledge about Jehovah and Jesus christ , and taking in this knowledge leads to everlasting life . if we listen to Jesus.
This means everlasting life, their taking in knowledge of you, the only true God, and of the one whom you sent forth, Jesus Christ. John 17;3 yes its all in the bible .
The bible is from God , and it tells us that Gods name is Jehovah psalm 83;18 and the bible teaches us the truthadlemi said:
Like his Father Jehovah, Jesus Christ is "full of undeserved kindness and truth." (Joh 1:14; Eph 4:21) While on earth, he always spoke the truth as he had received it from his Father. (Joh 8:40, 45, 46) and the way to listen to Jesus is by looking to the bible.
gnostic
The Lost One
Earlier I had posted a thread, titled True Christians and True Muslims.
Ah, what true church, adlemi? Which church are you about that is "true"?
Easy said, then done, adlemi.
Also, Adlemi, I don't think God had written a single line. Each book, or letter, or hymn, in the bible was written by human, and not all of them are written by prophets.
And regardless of what you say, it is not possible for God to give you direct teaching from the scripture, because the moment you open the bible and start reading, you are interpreting what is written, and your interpretations are bound to be different from other people's interpretations.
So how do you determine which interpretation is right, since God don't explain the passages to you? Do you interpret a metaphor or parable literally? Do you interpret the literal writing, metaphorically?
Here, lie the pitfalls of taking the whole bible literally or metaphorically, if a person can't judge for themselves.
Ah, what true church, adlemi? Which church are you about that is "true"?
adlemi said:
Easy said, then done, adlemi.
Also, Adlemi, I don't think God had written a single line. Each book, or letter, or hymn, in the bible was written by human, and not all of them are written by prophets.
And regardless of what you say, it is not possible for God to give you direct teaching from the scripture, because the moment you open the bible and start reading, you are interpreting what is written, and your interpretations are bound to be different from other people's interpretations.
So how do you determine which interpretation is right, since God don't explain the passages to you? Do you interpret a metaphor or parable literally? Do you interpret the literal writing, metaphorically?
Here, lie the pitfalls of taking the whole bible literally or metaphorically, if a person can't judge for themselves.
yes you are right, God is talking to people today, he has made sure that the Goodnews of the established kingdom is being made known in all the earth. Daniel 2;44 and he uses people and angels to get the work done. the prophecies in the bible pertaining to the heavenly kingdom goverment are now well along in this time of the end. thrilling times indeed.adlemi said:
And this good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations; and then the end will come.... matthew 24;14 and Jesus, as king of Gods heavenly kingdom is directing this preaching work along with the faithful angels.
(Revelation 14:6) And I saw another angel flying in midheaven, and he had everlasting good news to declare as glad tidings to those who dwell on the earth, and to every nation and tribe and tongue and people,............... yes the bible really is a book of prophecy, and bible prophecy always comes true. many things are being revealed in this the time of the end.
And as for you, O Daniel, make secret the words and seal up the book, until the time of [the] end. Many will rove about, and the [true] knowledge will become abundant."
(Mark 13:10) Also, in all the nations the good news has to be preached first.
Matthew 24; 45-47Who really is the faithful and discreet slave whom his master appointed over his domestics, to give them their food at the proper time? Happy is that slave if his master on arriving finds him doing so. Truly I say to YOU, He will appoint him over all his belongings. .............yes God is speaking to a faithful class of people, but along with that previledge comes Great responsibility. feeding spiritualy hungrey ones all over the world means action . but when they have the backing of the holy spirit or (Gods active force ) it works very very well indeed. yes ,............... God courses to become............. when it is regarding his purpose
But you JW are the only ones interpreting the passages of the bible to be such to satisfy your understanding and wisdom about the bible. It is not really the Lord God himself who tells you that His kingdom is already here on earth. If you believe God is talking to people today, why don't you call on direct to the Lord God and ask from Him if His kingdom is really here on earth now?may said:
may said:
The Hebrew word, translated as "Lord," is made up of four Hebrew letters, which can be written in English as YHVH, and which are expressed, traditionally but mistakenly, as "Jehovah."
The name Jehovah is almost universally accepted by English-speaking Christians as the manner of pronouncing YHVH, but that arose by mistake.
It seems that as the centuries passed and the Jews of later history spread throughout the east and began to speak Aramaic, Babylonian, and Greek, in preference to Hebrew, there grew up the danger that the proper pronunciation of the Biblical language would be forgotten. The Jewish scholars therefore placed little diacritical marks under the Hebrew consonants, indicating the vowel sounds that went with them in each particular word.
For YHVH, however, they did not produce the proper diacritical marks since the name was not supposed to be pronounced anyway. Instead, they wrote the diacritical marks for Adonai, the word that was supposed to be pronounced. Sometime during the Middle Ages, a Christian scholar, supposing that the vowels of Adonai belonged with the consonants YHVH, wrote out the name in full as Jehovah. (The initial J in Latin is pronounced like an initial Y in English.) This mistake has persisted and will probably continue to persist. Actually modern scholars seem to have decided that the correct pronunciation of YHVH is Yahveh. - Asimov's Guide to the Bible Vol 1: The Old Testament by Isaac Asimov pp. 20, 135