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Well, that is not what scripture tells me. I do not believe in the trinity. But, I don't think scriptures will persuade you to my point of view.Unless we, again, are misinterpreting each other
The Word is uncreated as He is God... the body know as Jesus was created.
Apparently on this day 2017 years ago GOD Almighty had a baby. I don't know about anyone else, but even just saying it feels weird and plain wrong, going against our innate understanding about the Most Hgh.
From the perspective of the northern hemisphere, the sun appears to move south and get smaller and scarcer. The shortening of the days and the expiration of the crops when approaching the winter solstice symbolised the process of death to the ancients. It was the death of the Sun. By December 22nd, the Sun’s demise was fully realised, for the Sun, having moved south continually for 6 months, makes it to it’s lowest point in the sky. Here a curious thing occurs: the Sun stops moving south, at least perceivably, for 3 days. During this 3 day pause, the Sun resides in the vicinity of the Southern Cross, or Crux, constellation. And after this time on December 25th, the Sun moves 1 degree, this time north, foreshadowing longer days, warmth, and Spring. And thus it was said: the Sun died on the cross, was dead for 3 days, only to be resurrected or born again.
Qur'an 9:30 & 31
"....... the Christians say, "The Messiah is the son of Allah ." That is their statement from their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved [before them]. May Allah destroy them; how are they deluded?"
"They have taken their scholars and monks as lords besides Allah, and [also] the Messiah, the son of Mary. And they were not commanded except to worship one God; there is no deity except Him. Exalted is He above whatever they associate with Him."
Happy Holidays for all those with time off work, I hope you have a great family get together, but never could I ever wish anyone a merry xmas given what it's supposed to symbolise. No offence meant.
Yes... as I mentioned before, a great Theological discussion where each will be convinced by their own position. I remember taking a course on the Trinity where just when we were convinced of the Trinity a scripture would throw us in a loop. And just when we were conivince on their not being a Trinity, a scripture would throw us in a loop.
Here too, I can demonstrate to you that by scripture, the soul is the entire human being similar to saying the doctor refers to all of that human that if he dies, the doctor is dead, the soul is dead.
LOL..
That was interesting...
I simply quote scriptures and accept what they teach. In this then, it is not my position but the scriptural teaching coming from God who has this position.
We all have to shape our opinions from our input, our own opinions.
And yet, I just posted one that ran crossgrain with your position.I simply quote scriptures and accept what they teach. In this then, it is not my position but the scriptural teaching coming from God who has this position.
Do you sift those scriptures out? Perhaps because they came to realize that the soul was immortal because it is one with the second portion of man.. the eternal spiritAs to what others believe, once they have seen what I present and have another opinion than mine - what's new!!!
It used to be that people would speak about our 'mortal souls.' Not so much anymore.
You mentioned Psalms 16:10. That is true.And yet, I just posted one that ran crossgrain with your position.
Perhaps because they came to realize that the soul was immortal because it is one with the second portion of man.. the eternal spirit
Here, trying to help you.
Each has to reach his or her own conclusions. As long as we serve God to the extend we can, it matters little if we differ on issues like this. Obedience to his edicts will lead to approval.Here, trying to help you.
Numbers... talks about living in the body and not after the body dies.
Psalms... "gave their life over to pestilence" obviously talking about while in the body.
You see, you can't make your position the strainer and strain all the parts that don't fit into your opinons. You make the word the strainer and throw out the opinons
Apparently on this day 2017 years ago GOD Almighty had a baby. I don't know about anyone else, but even just saying it feels weird and plain wrong, going against our innate understanding about the Most Hgh.
From the perspective of the northern hemisphere, the sun appears to move south and get smaller and scarcer. The shortening of the days and the expiration of the crops when approaching the winter solstice symbolised the process of death to the ancients. It was the death of the Sun. By December 22nd, the Sun’s demise was fully realised, for the Sun, having moved south continually for 6 months, makes it to it’s lowest point in the sky. Here a curious thing occurs: the Sun stops moving south, at least perceivably, for 3 days. During this 3 day pause, the Sun resides in the vicinity of the Southern Cross, or Crux, constellation. And after this time on December 25th, the Sun moves 1 degree, this time north, foreshadowing longer days, warmth, and Spring. And thus it was said: the Sun died on the cross, was dead for 3 days, only to be resurrected or born again.
Qur'an 9:30 & 31
"....... the Christians say, "The Messiah is the son of Allah ." That is their statement from their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved [before them]. May Allah destroy them; how are they deluded?"
"They have taken their scholars and monks as lords besides Allah, and [also] the Messiah, the son of Mary. And they were not commanded except to worship one God; there is no deity except Him. Exalted is He above whatever they associate with Him."
Happy Holidays for all those with time off work, I hope you have a great family get together, but never could I ever wish anyone a merry xmas given what it's supposed to symbolise. No offence meant.
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That's because Muhammad had no understanding and pass his lack of knowledge and understanding on down.
Why Jesus came here in this world.
It's all written down throughout the Old Testaments, Why Jesus was sent into this world.
Muhammad couldn't possibly know this, seeing he couldn't read or write.
Why would very efficient Romans order folks in Galilee to go to Bethlehem to register for taxation? Antipas had his own publicans and senior tax officers in Galilee... and his system was not interferred with when a Roman Prefect was installed in Idumea, Judea and Samaria.! ??
While there seems to be difficulties with the chronology between the Bible and the secular historians, I just accept the Bible. If doing so means that Jesus was born about 2BC, October 1 plus minus two weeks is the result, that is what I go with.
Fair enough..............
You could do it for yourself?
This is true........... some of the evidence in the bible is weak, some is strong. Many in the crowd do not trust it now.
Fun? Those that watch from the sidelines, enjoying the view, will fail at the last. The First shall be Last, and the Last shall be First.