Grandliseur
Well-Known Member
Do you?!
Look at one of my studies on this:
Truth Seeker - Judgment & Sheol
and about mortality:
Truth Seeker - Soul--Immortal? Animals?
I go by the Bible, nothing takes precedence over the scriptures in my world.
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The Uniqueness of Hell
- Thread starter VaDcare
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Look at one of my studies on this:
Truth Seeker - Judgment & Sheol
and about mortality:
Truth Seeker - Soul--Immortal? Animals?
I go by the Bible, nothing takes precedence over the scriptures in my world.
Skwim
Veteran Member
Sorry, but I'm told the page isn't for me.
"Warning: If you do not fully understand that the soul is mortal and dies, that the spirit is a non-being, a repository of what God needs returned to him on the death of the individual so as to resurrect the dead one, and that this is what returns to God, this page is not for you."
Err, don't you mean,
"I go by the Bible, nothing takes precedence over the scriptures I've picked out for my world."
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Grandliseur
Well-Known Member
Told by who? Some kind of virus warning?! This is a free homepage system I have used for many many years. Never had any trouble with it.
Skwim
Veteran Member
Grandliseur
Well-Known Member
It is my page, but I have not warned anyone about the material, etc. So, I am still in the dark as to who should warn you and why since you said, "Sorry, but I'm told the page isn't for me."In as much as you said "Look at one of my studies on this:" I assume it's you.
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I believe I encouraged you to read the material to see what is taught; after all, you posted quite a few scriptures.
Skwim
Veteran Member
Grandliseur
Well-Known Member
I even included the page you I told you to about in that warning. Anyway, I didn't think you one of those who thinks the soul is immortal! Aren't you agnostic or something?!
You would have benefited from seeing the scriptures in that page. The thing about this is that many people who read these scriptures without first looking at the other link claim that the body dies, but the soul doesn't - this is why the warning is there. The 'Soul' page shows by the scriptures that our souls are mortal.
Maybe I'll kill that warning. I haven't updated the site in a long while due to my life having gone to hell and then some. The studies, however, contain much to learn from. I should take the time and go through some of the pages, they have grown old and are out of date.
Ponder This
Well-Known Member
The ancient Greeks outlined the Afterlife with places of eternal punishment (such as Tartarus) as well paradises (such as Elysium) and apparently didn't need monotheism to do it.
arthra
Baha'i
Baha'i belief is that the soul can progress in the next world through the grace of God
"Know thou of a truth that the soul, after its separation from the body, will continue to progress until it attaineth the presence of God, in a state and condition which neither the revolution of ages and centuries, nor the changes and chances of this world, can alter."
~ Baha'u'llah, Gleanings from the Writings of Baha'u'llah, p. 155
"Know thou of a truth that the soul, after its separation from the body, will continue to progress until it attaineth the presence of God, in a state and condition which neither the revolution of ages and centuries, nor the changes and chances of this world, can alter."
~ Baha'u'llah, Gleanings from the Writings of Baha'u'llah, p. 155
It's sad, really, that Christianity is based on the Bible, yet most churches don't subscribe to what the Bible actually says about it! First of all, everyone goes to hell [ie., She'ol in Hebrew, Hades in Greek], when they die (Ecclesiastes 9:10). Even Jesus did, when He died (Psalms 16:10; verified by Peter, at Acts of the Apostles 2:27). And second, it's not eternal. -- Revelation 20:13-14
It is simply the Grave, where everyone goes when they die due to Adamic sin (imperfection). -- Romans 5:12
Skwim, do you realize those words in those verses, translated as Hell, are not Hell? The original manuscripts (or at least the oldest copies we have ) don't say Hades.
That matters, don't you think? Because, what the Bible really teaches, is harmonious. Are you aware, that death is thrown into the fire? Death is not something that can literal be burned. Fire is used as symbolic of complete destruction, gone forever; whatever is thrown in, will be "no more"! - Revelation 21:3-4.
I guess the appropriate question is: Do you really care.
Skwim
Veteran Member
So what? As I've pointed out too many times here, modern translations use words and terms the translators felt best convey to the modern reader the original intent of the authors. If they use the word "aquamarine" instead of "navy" then that's the shade of blue they feel best conveys the shade the original authors had in mind. Want to quibble that the authors had "teal" in mind, go right ahead, but I'm sticking with what the scholars and experts concluded: aquamarine.
As I've explained, nope!
In this case it's not that I care so much about what a Christian decides to believe as I find it interesting how Christians do it: Cherry pick the Bible.
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Whitestone
Member
There is a lot of personal ideas about this word "hell", that go way beyond the Biblical meaning of "grave" in the Bible. In the NT the word "Gehenna", (a continously burning dump outside Jerusalem where they threw trash and the bodies of criminals), and Jesus used it in His Parables, to stress His preaching message.
Only in the "Gehenna" applications of scripture (errently also translated as the word "hell"), do we find the burning aspect contained within the Words of the Messiah. Which was of course, a very demonstrative judgement for those who rejected Him to one day face for their own sinful unrepentant selves. An ignoble death, separated from those buried awaiting the resurrection. Those fires were "everlasting"... from generation to generation. It would have appropriately caused many to examine their lives and conduct no doubt.
The actual teachings of a demonic world with it's associated "Dante's inferno" type of torturous hell idea didn't come along until after the Jews rejected YHVH and invented their Babylonian Talmud containing the esoteric magiks and incantations and secret knowledge society of the Pharisees. The Jews invented the false teachings of an afterlife of fire and misery along with their devil and demon theology.
When Jesus came onto the scene, the Jews had so dismally departed from Truth into Caballism and Esoteric Gnostism that they, in their ignorant wickedness referred to such "Ba'al" forms of imaginary false gods and minions... against Jesus.
Anyone who would like, I can provide the proof source of all of this superstition straight out of the Jewish Encyclopedia. Peace and Blessings in the Joy of the Kingdom of Christ.
Only in the "Gehenna" applications of scripture (errently also translated as the word "hell"), do we find the burning aspect contained within the Words of the Messiah. Which was of course, a very demonstrative judgement for those who rejected Him to one day face for their own sinful unrepentant selves. An ignoble death, separated from those buried awaiting the resurrection. Those fires were "everlasting"... from generation to generation. It would have appropriately caused many to examine their lives and conduct no doubt.
The actual teachings of a demonic world with it's associated "Dante's inferno" type of torturous hell idea didn't come along until after the Jews rejected YHVH and invented their Babylonian Talmud containing the esoteric magiks and incantations and secret knowledge society of the Pharisees. The Jews invented the false teachings of an afterlife of fire and misery along with their devil and demon theology.
When Jesus came onto the scene, the Jews had so dismally departed from Truth into Caballism and Esoteric Gnostism that they, in their ignorant wickedness referred to such "Ba'al" forms of imaginary false gods and minions... against Jesus.
Anyone who would like, I can provide the proof source of all of this superstition straight out of the Jewish Encyclopedia. Peace and Blessings in the Joy of the Kingdom of Christ.
