Jumi
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It works as a convenient excuse?
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Creator's plan to create a world based on cruelty
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Tumah
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Here we see that Jews are commanded to sanctify G-d. Sanctification is a two way street.
Leviticus 22:32
And do not profane My holy Name, and I shall be sanctified within the children of Israel, I am G-d who sanctifies you.
Moon195
Member
unfortunately I didn't get what you meant! was it to agree or to disagree? a bit baffled by your reply
Tumah
Veteran Member
No, it's just another Republican delusion.
I liked your post.unfortunately I didn't get what you meant! was it to agree or to disagree? a bit baffled by your reply
But that was Jesus talking who himself needed to be sanctified by God. So when the Lord Jesus became one of the children of Israel, he was sanctified by God. He asked you not to profane his Holy name, if his name was already holy how could the Jews sanctify what was already sanctified?
Tumah
Veteran Member
If his name is Jesus you do quite well at it. To treat disrespectfully and irreverently what is holy. And it said the Lord's name not God's name.
Tumah
Veteran Member
And by treating something disrespectfully, you remove the holiness from it?
No, you profane it.
Tumah
Veteran Member
The word in Hebrew (ḥll) means "mundane", the opposite of holy. We are commanded not to make G-d's Name mundane. How is that possible?
How you treat his name the Lord for others to see. So he didn't want you to profane his name among the nations by treating what is Holy as if it was mundane.
Tumah
Veteran Member
Great. So then you've answered your own question. Sanctifying G-d's Name means treating it as holy.
No, the name was already Holy, by treating it as Holy you simply give credit where credit is due. Giving credit where credit is due is one biblical example of loving your neighbor, so would also fall into the category of loving your God when applied to God.
Tumah
Veteran Member
Yes you said otherwise. You said by treating his name as holy you are sanctifying god and making him holy.
Now lets say there is some false god which the whole earth treats with great respect and reverence, does that make the false god holy?
Tumah
Veteran Member
Link the quote.
[quoteNow lets say there is some false god which the whole earth treats with great respect and reverence, does that make the false god holy?[/QUOTE]
Obviously not. Which is part of the reason the verse in Leviticus isn't talking about Jesus.
Moon195
Member
I really apologize for not being careful enough when I copy pasted that verse from a web page! the translation is not accurate and the word 'Sanctify' doesn't go with the Arabic word 'نقدس لک' . it should be replaced by the phrase ' we keep admitting and praising your purity and holiness.
The main reason I brought up this topic was to get to know more about the Absolute Creator of all beings. The absolute creator of the universe, the creator of Moses, Jesus, Muhammad , ...
There is no way to get to know The Absolute Creator except by looking into history deeply. Finding the contradictions that exist in scriptures when you compare what it says to what really exists in our world can do a lot.
The first step, is to look at the scriptures objectively without any fear of thinking differently. What really counts is what really happened in history and in our own lives as true experiences. In my humble view, no religion has succeeded in granting humans a prosperous life. The result of almost all religions which were sent down by God was wars and killings, ethnic and religious discriminations. Humans must think deeply on this very specific result. I believe that the changes human beings made in the Holy Books has been the real cause.
when these Holy Books are distorted, censored or whatever you might call it changed the Book, then consequently true knowing of God will vanish and is replaced by a completely wrong understanding of who God really is.
I believe that God doesn't need any one to defend or sanctify him. I sometimes find it offending to defend God. God is the absolute power and doesn't care to be defended or not. the God who needs any defenders is not a God. That God is a weak creature like us.
Moon195
Member
I really apologize for not being careful enough when I copy pasted that verse from a web page! the translation is not accurate and the word 'Sanctify' doesn't go with the Arabic word 'نقدس لک' . it should be replaced by the phrase ' we keep admitting and praising your purity and holiness.
The main reason I brought up this topic was to get to know more about the Absolute Creator of all beings. The absolute creator of the universe, the creator of Moses, Jesus, Muhammad , ...
There is no way to get to know The Absolute Creator except by looking into history deeply. Finding the contradictions that exist in scriptures when you compare what it says to what really exists in our world can do a lot.
The first step, is to look at the scriptures objectively without any fear of thinking differently. What really counts is what really happened in history and in our own lives as true experiences. In my humble view, no religion has succeeded in granting humans a prosperous life. The result of almost all religions which were sent down by God was wars and killings, ethnic and religious discriminations. Humans must think deeply on this very specific result. I believe that the changes human beings made in the Holy Books has been the real cause.
when these Holy Books are distorted, censored or whatever you might call it changed the Book, then consequently true knowing of God will vanish and is replaced by a completely wrong understanding of who God really is.
I believe that God doesn't need any one to defend or sanctify him. I sometimes find it offending to defend God. God is the absolute power and doesn't care to be defended or not. the God who needs any defenders is not a God. That God is a weak creature like us.