CBO Says DREAMERS Will Cost Taxpayers $26 Billion Over Next 10 Years

esmith · Dec 17, 2017

Keeping 'Dreamers' would cost taxpayers $26B over next 10 years, feds say

According to the CBO (Congressional Budget Office)
Allowing 2 million illegal immigrant “Dreamers” to remain in the U.S. would cost taxpayers $25.9 billion over the next decade, the Congressional Budget Office says in a report released Friday. In addition
S 1615 Dream Act of 2017

CBO and the staff of the Joint Committee on Taxation (JCT) estimate that enacting S. 1615 would increase direct spending by $26.8 billion over the 2018-2027 period. Over that same period, CBO and JCT estimate that the bill would increase revenues, on net, by$0.9 billion—a decline in on-budget revenues of $4.3 billion and an increase in off-budget revenues of$5.3 billion.

tytlyf · Dec 17, 2017

How much does it cost for 2 million citizens over 10 years? I believe the illegals will become citizens and have access to the same programs as everyone else?

2 million illegals over 10 years = 26 Billion
2 million citizens over 10 years = 26 Billion

Notice what Fox did yet?

esmith · Dec 17, 2017

tytlyf said:
How much does it cost for 2 million citizens over 10 years? I believe the illegals will become citizens and have access to the same programs as everyone else?

2 million illegals over 10 years = 26 Billion
2 million citizens over 10 years = 26 Billion

Notice what Fox did yet?

No, what did they do.....Oh that's right they reported on a report by the CBO ( which was supplied). You have a problem with that or is it you are blinded by your leftwing media sources.

Twilight Hue · Dec 17, 2017

Illegal activity shouldn't be encouraged.

Shadow Wolf · Dec 17, 2017

So? They have been raised here, they consider themselves Americans, and it's a horrible idea to punish the child for the sins of the parent. Why should they be sent to land where for many of them it's not even being "sent back to," to where they have little-to-no support systems, no jobs arranged, and torn from their families? America has always been a nation of immigrants. And the only group that does hold any rightful claims have been marginalized, severely discriminated against, rounded up like cattle, and often loosing their very culture because of particular immigrants and their descendants. Other immigrants were forced over here as property and not even considered citizens. Some came here because the lands they hail from were devastated with war, famine, and corruption.

Shadow Wolf · Dec 17, 2017

Sartre said:
Why not?

Disclaimer: I am not advocating illegal actions as RF rules permit, I just am responding to that which I deem dogmatism.

In some cases, it should be encouraged. Kudos to those female criminals who dared vote, and the criminal negroes who had the gall to willingly violate segregation laws and refuse to give up their seat. Vietnam draft dodgers, good work! Sometimes the law is so unjust it should be ignored and violated. Often enough, progress is not made without saying "screw what the law says." If the law was never questioned or challenged, we might still have sodomy laws on the book.

Twilight Hue · Dec 17, 2017

Shadow Wolf said:
In some cases, it should be encouraged. Kudos to those female criminals who dared vote, and the criminal negroes who had the gall to willingly violate segregation laws and refuse to give up their seat. Vietnam draft dodgers, good work! Sometimes the law is so unjust it should be ignored and violated. Often enough, progress is not made without saying "screw what the law says." If the law was never questioned or challenged, we might still have sodomy laws on the book.

I would love to see you try to enter any free nation illegally and see what happens.

It seems the US is somehow made the exception when condoning and accepting illegal behaviors by people who infiltrate another foriegn country.

Aldrnari · Dec 17, 2017

Meh, the world ain't black and white. I don't like the idea of sending Americans (for all intents and purposes) into an unfamiliar country.

True that our immigration policies are screwed up, and are in serious need of stability and practicality, but this situation needs to be addressed separately since it is a special case. I'm willing to spend my tax dollars towards keeping 800,000 Americans (who had no choice) from a crappy fate, but maybe that's just me.

Shadow Wolf · Dec 17, 2017

Nowhere Man said:
I would love to see you try to enter any free nation illegally and see what happens.

Depends on the country. Not all of them are so eager to snub and turn their noses up to immigrants, legal or illegal.

Shadow Wolf · Dec 17, 2017

Aldrnari said:
Meh, the world ain't black and white. I don't like the idea of sending Americans (for all intents and purposes) into an unfamiliar country.

True that our immigration policies are screwed up, and are in serious need of stability and practicality, but this situation needs to be addressed separately since it is a special case. I'm willing to spend my tax dollars towards keeping 800,000 Americans (who had no choice) from a crappy fate, but maybe that's just me.

It's not just you. I like the idea of sending Americans to foreign lands with no natural/social support, no job, and throwing them to a fate of uncertainty no more than you. Unfortunately, we haven't moved past the barbarism and cruelty of punishing children for what their parents did.

Twilight Hue · Dec 17, 2017

Shadow Wolf said:
Depends on the country. Not all of them are so eager to snub and turn their noses up to immigrants, legal or illegal.

What country does that?

Shadow Wolf · Dec 17, 2017

Nowhere Man said:
What country does that?

America has a history of it, and not just with turning down Syrian refugees fleeing ISIS, or telling Americans they must leave because of what their parents did. It also turned down a ship load of Jews running from the Nazis, and basically Mexicans are today what Irish and German immigrants were yesterday.
Or if you asked the opposite, countries like Canada are humanitarian enough that school is a guaranteed right of all children, regardless of immigration status.

freethinker44 · Dec 17, 2017

Nowhere Man said:
Illegal activity shouldn't be encouraged.

What if the law deserves to be broken?

Twilight Hue · Dec 17, 2017

freethinker44 said:
What if the law deserves to be broken?

Why? Immigration laws are made for protection of a country's citizenry. There are multiple reasons for legal channels such as the immigration process.

All countries to my knowledge have them and hopefully enforces them.

Twilight Hue · Dec 17, 2017

Shadow Wolf said:
Or if you asked the opposite, countries like Canada are humanitarian enough that school is a guaranteed right of all children, regardless of immigration status.

That's not quite true.

http://www.canadianimmigration.net/...egulations-deny-children-access-to-schooling/

Jayhawker Soule · Dec 17, 2017

Nowhere Man said:
It seems the US is somehow made the exception ....

Precisely.

Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed, to me:
I lift my lamp beside the golden door.

was long a defining statement evoking a great deal of pride. For many of us it still is.

Jayhawker Soule · Dec 17, 2017

esmith said:
Keeping 'Dreamers' would cost taxpayers $26B over next 10 years, feds say

According to the CBO (Congressional Budget Office)
Allowing 2 million illegal immigrant “Dreamers” to remain in the U.S. would cost taxpayers $25.9 billion over the next decade, the Congressional Budget Office says in a report released Friday.

Let's see: $25.9 billion over the next decade is $2.59 billion per year.

This represents 0.23% of the allocated $1.11 trillion in discretionary spending in fiscal year 2015, or 0.43% of the amount allocated for military spending for that year. [source]

Works for me. Thanks for sharing.

suncowiam · Dec 17, 2017

Nowhere Man said:
Illegal activity shouldn't be encouraged.

Illegal activity should never be encouraged. Compassion should be encouraged. To believe that children needs to be punished for the acts of their parents is another case of intolerance.

Although, you are technically correct about what is illegal, you should reconsider if this is the moral thing to do. Most of these dreamers have no home outside of the US.

columbus · Dec 17, 2017

Nowhere Man said:
I would love to see you try to enter any free nation illegally and see what happens.

They entered this country through birth canals mostly.

It seems the US is somehow made the exception when condoning and accepting illegal behaviors by people who infiltrate another foriegn country.

We made an exception because the immigrants were so profitable. They kept wages down and sales up.
Tom

esmith · Dec 17, 2017

columbus said:
They entered this country through birth canals mostly.

Do you not know that if you are born in this country no matter the status of the mother, as it stands now, that you are a citizen of the U.S.
The Dreamers are NOT citizens.

columbus said:
We made an exception because the immigrants were so profitable. They kept wages down and sales up.
Tom

What is profitable about children, are you for child labor?

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