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Quotes of Satan

SoulTYPE

Well-Known Member
I just need some comments/answers to some quotes I have seen about Satan.

He can do nothing in the life of the Christian without God's permission.

Is this not an ignorant statement?

We should never underestimate Satan. He is a sly and skillful adversary with many years' experience in dealing with humanity. Though he is a powerful foe, he can be overcome.
If he has not been properly overcome in thousands of years, why now, and so easily?​

Book of Job, when Satan is presenting himself to God:​
God said to him, "From where do you come?" (Job 1:7).

Satan answered, "From going to and fro on the earth, and from walking back and forth on it."
Well to my beliefs Satan met God before that. I'm sure you can correct me.

but if you are a Christian, neither the devil nor a demon can ever take control of your life.


Does being a Christian IMMEDIATLY warrant this?


No, no. I am not Christian bashing. If you think I am, oh well, I really couldn't be arsed anymore..
 

Ceridwen018

Well-Known Member
He can do nothing in the life of the Christian without God's permission.

Is this not an ignorant statement?
It's either ignorant, or god is a jerk.​
Book of Job, when Satan is presenting himself to God:​
God said to him, "From where do you come?" (Job 1:7).

Satan answered, "From going to and fro on the earth, and from walking back and forth on it."
Well to my beliefs Satan met God before that. I'm sure you can correct me.
What?! Is the bible contradicting itself again?!​
 

Mister Emu

Emu Extraordinaire
Staff member
Premium Member
He can do nothing in the life of the Christian without God's permission.




Is this not an ignorant statement?
How so, if the Lord does not want something to happen it won't, either by express(as in the case of Job) or implied(such as free will) permission stuff happens.​
We should never underestimate Satan. He is a sly and skillful adversary with many years' experience in dealing with humanity. Though he is a powerful foe, he can be overcome.
If he has not been properly overcome in thousands of years, why now, and so easily?​
Overcoming Satan means overcoming his temptations and lies.​
Book of Job, when Satan is presenting himself to God:
God said to him, "From where do you come?" (Job 1:7).

Satan answered, "From going to and fro on the earth, and from walking back and forth on it."
Well to my beliefs Satan met God before that. I'm sure you can correct me
When the Lord said "From whence you came?"(KJV) it would be like saying, what have you been up to, or what've you been doing.​
 

SoulTYPE

Well-Known Member
Well Emu, I cannot disagree with you or otherwise I would be wanred..yet again.

Coins to Ceridwen for her answers though.
 

kreeden

Virus of the Mind
SoulTYPE01 said:
He can do nothing in the life of the Christian without God's permission.

Actually , I would add that he can do very little without YOUR permission .... But that is another topic .

We should never underestimate Satan. He is a sly and skillful adversary with many years' experience in dealing with humanity. Though he is a powerful foe, he can be overcome.

I think that is refering to a personal battle , not in regard to actually defeating Satan once and for all . Again , that could be a thread on it's own .
God said to him, "From where do you come?" (Job 1:7).

Satan answered, "From going to and fro on the earth, and from walking back and forth on it."

Of course he did . Soul , take a look at the answer dude . :) He isn't being asked where he orginated from . Nor does he answer that .

but if you are a Christian, neither the devil nor a demon can ever take control of your life.

No , but Faith is a shield .... again subject to another thread , perhaps the same tthread as the first answer ... :)
You don't have to agree with something to understand it Soultype . In fact , to disagree , one has to understand also .
 

kreeden

Virus of the Mind
Double post ...

Soultype , when we read something , we have to take a second to think about what we are actually reading . For excample , your Topic says " Quotes of Satan ". When they are actually " Quotes about Satan " . :) I'm not putting you down here , I knew what you meant . Just pointing out how easy it cam be to read something in a way it wasn't meant to be read as . Of course , my opinions on what was said in your quotes are just that , my opinions . I think most Christians may not agree with some of what I said . :)
 

Ceridwen018

Well-Known Member
How so, if the Lord does not want something to happen it won't, either by express(as in the case of Job) or implied(such as free will) permission stuff happens.
Perhaps. It's like I said though--God either can't control Satan, or he's a jerk for letting Satan run rampid through our lives. Take your pick.

When the Lord said "From whence you came?"(KJV) it would be like saying, what have you been up to, or what've you been doing.
That seems like a pretty liberal interpretation to me.
 

kreeden

Virus of the Mind
In my opinion , Free Will is the greatest gift the Creator has given us . Yes , I place it above Life it's self , for I would not want to live life as a slave . Therefore , I don't see God as a jerk for allowing Satan to do his thing . How could God stop him and still allow Free Will ?
 

Ronald

Well-Known Member
Someone saying he is Christian, offers no one protection! Christians are very often deceived.
There is a colossal difference between being called and being Elect/Chosen!
Mt 24:24 For false Christs and false prophets will arise and show great signs and wonders, so as to lead astray, if possible, even the elect.

Y H V H does the CHOOSING!!!!!!!
 

Ceridwen018

Well-Known Member
How could God stop him and still allow Free Will ?
How could god allow free will when he specifically has a PLAN for your life, and/or knows how the course of your life will run before you are even concieved?
 

kreeden

Virus of the Mind
Ceridwen018 said:
How could god allow free will when he specifically has a PLAN for your life, and/or knows how the course of your life will run before you are even concieved?
Does He ? If so , He ain't told me about it . ;)
 

Druidus

Keeper of the Grove
Well, God is omniscient, is he not? How can he NOT know?
Not a Christian, but let me answer anyway. God may be Omniscient, and know what will happen, but that doesn't mean she caused it. In other words, God makes use of her omniscience, but not her omnikinesis.
 

kreeden

Virus of the Mind
That is a debate that has been going on for ... a very long time . :) I have no idea how long . But my answer would be that I guess that he chooses not to know . How else could there be Free Will ? The Bible says that God TOLD " Adam and Eve not to eat the forbidden fruit . Why bother if He already knew that they would ? For that matter , why bother even creating the Garden , He knew that He would have to give them the boot anyway ?

Perhaps God is a gambler ? He likes to take chances ? I don't know . :) But I do know that we have Free Will , and it would be knida useless if our lifes were already written in stone , wouldn't it ?
 

Druidus

Keeper of the Grove
I say we take a quote from Bender and God (from futurama):

Bender: "Do you know what I'm going to do before I do it?

God: "Yes, I know everything."

Bender: "What if I don't do it?"

God: "Then I don't know that."
lol :jiggy:
 

Ceridwen018

Well-Known Member
It still seems fishy to me. God supposedly created everything, right? That means that everything comes from god, everything is generated by god, and god controls everything, right? If he created us to be in control of ourselves, then perhaps the Buddhists are right and there's a little god in us all.

Quick question: You say that life would be pointless without free-will, but I wonder...what, exactly, is the point of life WITH free-will?
 

Druidus

Keeper of the Grove
That means that everything comes from god, everything is generated by god, and god controls everything, right?
If I clone myself, or indeed, build another being, creating new DNA, do I control his future choices? Perhaps I control a predisposition, due to genetics, but I don't control him. (Of course, I don't believe that the Source created everything as is. The BIg Bang happened, and so did evolution. The Source played no active role in our evolution.)

If he created us to be in control of ourselves, then perhaps the Buddhists are right and there's a little god in us all.
That's what most Druids believe too.
 

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
The reason God created everything, including Satan, but then lost control over Satan, is really quite simple. God was an undergraduate at the time he created the universe. He did it as a class project. He hadn't even gotten his God diploma yet. Actually, he didn't even take the whole semester to work on the project. He put it off and put it off until there were only six days in the term left. Then he did a rush job. So, you see, it's quite understandable that there are contradictions in creation. A more mature god would have worked out the bugs.
 
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