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Not sure that capital punishment can ever be truly seen as none violent, as the person is dead after, which clearly implies they've been harmed.
In my opinion.
The wars in Syria, Yemen, Somalia, the plight of the Rohingya are all because of religious fanatics. History is painted with blood by religion, though also by other things like communism and nationalism. My country was force converted, looted and conquered by crusaders. Religion is a convenient excuse for those who love murder. What is better for them than an unbeliever who they think religion has made less than human...
'Behaviour involving physical force intended to hurt, damage, or kill someone or something.' - violence define - Google Search
You have a point that it isn't someone 'physically' administering it, and thus removing culpability of someone being violent... Yet the action of having someone put to death is a violent act.
'Some 437,000 people murdered worldwide in 2012, according to new UNODC study.'
OK clearly you've issues understanding what enlightenment means; Yeshua and Daniel said 'the wise will shine, and those who turn many to righteousness shall remain' (Daniel 12:3)... Those are definitions of enlightenment.
Someone analysed the Bible and Quran to see which is more violent
Personally find this interesting that when based on a analytical perspective, it says the Jews have far more violent beliefs than Muslims; thus should either book be endorsed in society anymore, when they encourage such disgusting acts?
Like shouldn't we move on from the barbaric past that humans have had, instead of teach it to our children as religious values to live by.
In my opinion.
This is where research and context make all the difference in the world.Someone analysed the Bible and Quran to see which is more violent
Personally find this interesting that when based on a analytical perspective, it says the Jews have far more violent beliefs than Muslims; thus should either book be endorsed in society anymore, when they encourage such disgusting acts?
Like shouldn't we move on from the barbaric past that humans have had, instead of teach it to our children as religious values to live by.
In my opinion.
What in the world is your point behind posting this data? What is the conclusion? I am from Alabama. We are overwhelmingly conservative Christians, Moore claims to be a conservative Christian so what is the problem here?If by a religion you mean an ideology or worldview based on a god belief, why do we need even one? What does that idea add to world peace?
Most if not all of the atheists I know are secular humanists and gentle, peaceful people with good hearts trying to raise families well, be good neighbors, and leave the world a better place than they found it. That's what we would expect from a worldview that advocates for reason, skepticism, tolerance, diversity, compassion, the arts and sciences, democracy, freedom, and the autonomy and maximal development of the individual.
Many Christians, Jews and Muslims are undoubtedly the same and hold many if not all of the same values, but too many are made worse people by their religious beliefs.
I just read an article yesterday ( White Evangelicals Overwhelmingly Support Alleged Pedophile in AL Senate Race ) with a survey and the following result. What do we need with such ideas as those being taught to Southern white evangelicals in the world? :
Having read both texts, aware of the amount of battles, war like mentality, corporal punishment, etc...
Agree this point is laughable, as found on reading the Quran the amount of times it tells you to trust the word of Muhammad, made me dubious; as when someone is telling me to trust them all the time, found they're generally a blagger.
Because we want a fully logical scientific comprehensive guide to reality; thus we can not miss out that there is a CPU manifesting the Matrix we exist within at a quantum level....
YHVH Elohim supposedly motivated it (Exodus 15:3), in a time as you say where war like gods were prominent...
2:191 'And kill them wherever you find them, and drive them out from whence they drove you out, and persecution is severer than slaughter, and do not fight with them at the Sacred Mosque until they fight with you in it, but if they do fight you, then slay them; such is the recompense of the unbelievers.'
A lot of that is both religious and political. Communists murdered 1 million of their own people in Cambodia not so long ago. Stalin and his henchmen killed a million or more of their own citizens. The Holocaust happened because Jews and others were considered to be "garbage people" by the Nazis.
Having read both texts, aware of the amount of battles, war like mentality, corporal punishment, etc...
So the idea a computer can even see these texts need fixing, says something to me, we need to evolve out of the Dark Ages, and move into an Age of Enlightenment, where that mentality is no longer tolerated.
Agree this point is laughable, as found on reading the Quran the amount of times it tells you to trust the word of Muhammad, made me dubious; as when someone is telling me to trust them all the time, found they're generally a blagger.
Because we want a fully logical scientific comprehensive guide to reality; thus we can not miss out that there is a CPU manifesting the Matrix we exist within at a quantum level....
Agree get rid of the superstitious hocus pocus, and lets deal with the facts instead.
YHVH Elohim supposedly motivated it (Exodus 15:3), in a time as you say where war like gods were prominent...
Thus we can understand a tribal mentality, creating texts justify their own actions as Godly...
Yet if we see the God Most High as a 100% logical CPU that manifests reality; which makes us not to like pain, and to seek pleasure, that to me is totally alien to what God is about.
2:191 'And kill them wherever you find them, and drive them out from whence they drove you out, and persecution is severer than slaughter, and do not fight with them at the Sacred Mosque until they fight with you in it, but if they do fight you, then slay them; such is the recompense of the unbelievers.'
Al-Fitnah - Those who disbelieve.
We could also post all the ones about Mushrikin (polytheists) which is far worse, as it endorses hunting them down from the way i read it.
Please note i accept everyone's texts, and have not dismissed any; just seriously people, we need to take on board what it says, where it came from, and then move on.
In my opinion.
How much of the violence in the book is a prescription for violence by the believers?Someone analysed the Bible and Quran to see which is more violent
Personally find this interesting that when based on a analytical perspective, it says the Jews have far more violent beliefs than Muslims; thus should either book be endorsed in society anymore, when they encourage such disgusting acts?
Like shouldn't we move on from the barbaric past that humans have had, instead of teach it to our children as religious values to live by.
In my opinion.
Not "all", eh?
No the problem is that your equating accusations with facts. Apparently you think the idea that we are presumed innocent until proven guilty is a bad idea. If you were honest when called upon, you would be struck from every jury in the country. You would probably like the DPRK a lot better, I recommend you take a long vacation there.
Interesting question...