Knowing Our Potentate

If we know ourselves, do we not know the omnipresence of God? Isn't our mind's the owners of our body, temple?

Jeremiah 31:34
No longer will they teach their neighbor, or say to one another, ‘Know the Lord,’ because they will all know me, from the least of them to the greatest,” declares the Lord. “For I will forgive their wickedness and will remember their sins no more.”

should we love others more than ourselves; if we follow the Law of Love, or the Golden Rule?

Fool said:

If we know ourselves, do we not know the omnipresence of God? Isn't our mind's the owners of our body, temple?

Jeremiah 31:34
No longer will they teach their neighbor, or say to one another, ‘Know the Lord,’ because they will all know me, from the least of them to the greatest,” declares the Lord. “For I will forgive their wickedness and will remember their sins no more.”

should we love others more than ourselves; if we follow the Law of Love, or the Golden Rule?

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What are you trying to say with these posts?

With the first sentence are you saying we are God?

What about all the Jeremiah posts?

Jeremiah is about the Hebrew people and YHVH.

Jer 31:28 And it shall come to pass, that like as I have watched over them, to pluck up, and to break down, and to throw down, and to destroy, and to afflict; so will I watch over them, to build, and to plant, saith YHVH.

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Fool said:

If we know ourselves, do we not know the omnipresence of God? Isn't our mind's the owners of our body, temple?

Jeremiah 31:34
No longer will they teach their neighbor, or say to one another, ‘Know the Lord,’ because they will all know me, from the least of them to the greatest,” declares the Lord. “For I will forgive their wickedness and will remember their sins no more.”

should we love others more than ourselves; if we follow the Law of Love, or the Golden Rule?

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Fool,
Maybe you should start with something you seem to take for granted, which is necessary to really know God.
First, God has a Personal, Proper NAME, which He had written in His Book, The Holy Bible, over 7,000 Times, in tha original Autographs. Just the number of times He had His name written, should make it clear that He wants His name spoken, especially by His worshippers.
Most Translators have removed God’s Name from His own Book, which He, Himself inspired, 2Timothy 3:16. In Hebrew His NAME was written, YHWH, which is translated, in English, Jehovah. Most translators have followed the pattern of the KJV, by putting in the Bible, where His name YHWH was, either LORD, or GOD, in all capitals. At Isaiah 42:8, in the Original Autographs God says that His Name is Jehovah. In the KJV, the translators kept His Name 4 places, Exodus 6:3, Isaiah 12:2, 26:4, Psalms 83:18. Translators who have removed God’s Name from His on Book, cannot do it with impunity!!!
The Bible tells us that Jehovah God is the only true God, that He is the creator of the heavens and the earth, and all the things in them.
God mentions, in several places that His dwelling place is in the heavens, 1Kings 8:30,39,43,49.
God tells us that He loves the ones that love Him, Proverbs 8:17, and that He wants His people to draw close to Him, James 4:8.
God had written in His Book, that everyone that does not know Him well, will receive the punishment of everlasting death, 2Thessalonians 1:8,9.
When God has things written in His word, He is not happy when people misrepresent Him!!! Jehovah is All seeing, Omnipotent, and Omniscient, but He is not Omnipresent, or Ubiquitus, but is Described by the term Circumscription, which means that God occupies a certain place in space, and is not everyplace.
One place in the Bible shows us for a certainty, that God is NOT everywhere, 1 Kings 19:11,12. Genesis 40:8.

Ingledsva said:

What are you trying to say with these posts?

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52 “Woe to you experts in the law, because you have taken away the key to knowledge. You yourselves have not entered, and you have hindered those who were entering.”

He says, "Be still, and know that I am God; I will be exalted among the nations, I will be exalted in the earth."

with all thy being.

Ingledsva said:

With the first sentence are you saying we are God?

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if there is nothing that can exist apart from god, then obviously all are god.

“I said, ‘You are “gods”; you are all sons of the Most High.’

Ingledsva said:

What about all the Jeremiah posts?

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Jeremiah is about the Hebrew people and YHVH.

Jer 31:28 And it shall come to pass, that like as I have watched over them, to pluck up, and to break down, and to throw down, and to destroy, and to afflict; so will I watch over them, to build, and to plant, saith YHVH.

*[/QUOTE]the bible isn't a historical document. if taken literally moses intercession was the only thing that saved them from utter destruction and God offered to raise up others. and others will be raised up and exalted among all nations.

when everythings made to be broken. i just want you to know who i am.

"The Lord spoke further to me, saying, ‘I have seen this people, and indeed, it is a stubborn people. 14‘Let Me alone, that I may destroy them and blot out their name from under heaven; and I will make of you a nation mightier and greater than they,'"

12jtartar said:

Fool,

When God has things written in His word, He is not happy when people misrepresent Him!!! Jehovah is All seeing, Omnipotent, and Omniscient, but He is not Omnipresent, or Ubiquitus, but is Described by the term Circumscription, which means that God occupies a certain place in space, and is not everyplace.
One place in the Bible shows us for a certainty, that God is NOT everywhere, 1 Kings 19:11,12. Genesis 40:8.

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not everyone recognizes just how close god is. not everyone understands god now. you have separated yourself from god. a house divided against itself will fall.

the name from exodus 3:14 alone expresses it so as i am that i am, or i will be what i will be.

1 Corinthians 3:16
Don’t you know that you yourselves are God’s temple and that God’s Spirit dwells in your midst?

1 Corinthians 6:19
Do you not know that your bodies are temples of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own;

Colossians 3:11
11 Here there is no Gentile or Jew circumcised or uncircumcised, Christ is all and is in all.

John 14:20
On that day you will realize that I am in my Father, and you are in me, and I am in you.

Jeremiah 23:24
"Can a man hide himself in hiding places So I do not see him?" declares the LORD "Do I not fill the heavens and the earth?" declares the LORD.

1 Kings 8:27
"But will God indeed dwell on the earth? Behold, heaven and the highest heaven cannot contain You, how much less this house which I have built!

Jeremiah 17:10
"I the LORD search the heart and examine the mind, to reward each person according to their conduct, according to what their deeds deserve."

Isaiah 66
66 This is what the Lord says:

“Heaven is my throne,
and the earth is my footstool.
Where is the house you will build for me?
Where will my resting place be?
2 Has not my hand made all these things,
and so they came into being?”
declares the Lord.

Fool said:

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“I said, ‘You are “gods”; you are all sons of the Most High.’ ...

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The word there is Elohiym - which is generic god, gods, judges, elevated people, etc.

That sentence doesn't say they are actually YHVH.

That sentence is from Psalms and is about judges.

Psa 82:1 A Psalm of Asaph: The ELOHIYM/Magistrates/Judges stand in the assembly of the mighty/powerful, among the magistrates to judge/execute.
Psa 82:2 For how long will you judge unjustly, and by reason of, advance the wicked?
Psa 82:3 Defend the weak and bereaved, needy and destitute; be righteous!
Psa 82:4 Deliver the weak and destitute from the hand of the wicked.
Psa 82:5 Of a truth, they observe and don't understand. In misery they walk. Rotten is the whole foundation.

Psa 82:6 I have said: You are gods and all of you the sons of the most High.
Psa 82:6 I have said Elohiym/Judges thou are; and sons of the most high!


Psa 82:7 Nevertheless as human beings, shall die, and of a certainty, as all leaders fall.

Psa 82:8 Arise o Elohiym/Judges, execute judgment on the land/nation; for you shall inherit the whole nation/people/land.

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Ingledsva said:

The word there is Elohiym - which is generic god, gods, judges, elevated people, etc.

That sentence doesn't say they are actually YHVH.

That sentence is from Psalms and is about judges.

Psa 82:1 A Psalm of Asaph: The ELOHIYM/Magistrates/Judges stand in the assembly of the mighty/powerful, among the magistrates to judge/execute.
Psa 82:2 For how long will you judge unjustly, and by reason of, advance the wicked?
Psa 82:3 Defend the weak and bereaved, needy and destitute; be righteous!
Psa 82:4 Deliver the weak and destitute from the hand of the wicked.
Psa 82:5 Of a truth, they observe and don't understand. In misery they walk. Rotten is the whole foundation.

Psa 82:6 I have said: You are gods and all of you the sons of the most High.
Psa 82:6 I have said Elohiym/Judges thou are; and sons of the most high!


Psa 82:7 Nevertheless as human beings, shall die, and of a certainty, as all leaders fall.

Psa 82:8 Arise o Elohiym/Judges, execute judgment on the land/nation; for you shall inherit the whole nation/people/land.

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i have no problem with any of that.. yhvh is the noun from exodus 3:15 referred to the verb in exodus 3:14.

the verb in exodus 3:14 is the ultimate name of god. it comes from zoroastrianism and hinduism, and egyptian book of the coming forth of day.

notice in exodus 3:14 it is the elohim that states this about the Lord that was sent in the name. that person, the elohim of Abraham, the elohim of Isaac, the elohim of Jacob was the Lord Melchizedek.

the name was the identifier of a true prophet.

you can find references to it in other cultures.

Potentate? Is that a Latin spelling of potato?

Fool said:

i have no problem with any of that.. yhvh is the noun from exodus 3:15 referred to the verb in exodus 3:14.

the verb in exodus 3:14 is the ultimate name of god. it comes from zoroastrianism and hinduism, and egyptian book of the coming forth of day.

notice in exodus 3:14 it is the elohim that states this about the Lord that was sent in the name. that person, the elohim of Abraham, the elohim of Isaac, the elohim of Jacob was the Lord Melchizedek.

the name was the identifier of a true prophet.

you can find references to it in other cultures.

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What does any of that have to do with my answer to you?

The Elohiym of Jacob, etc., was not Melchizedek.

Melchizedek was a King of Jerusalem.

We are told whom the Elohiym of Jacob, Isaac, and Abraham, is.

Gen 3:15 And Elohiym said to Moses again, You shall say this to the sons of Israel, YHVH, the Elohiym of your fathers, the Elohiym of Abraham, the Elohiym of Isaac, and the Elohiym of Jacob, has sent me to you. This is My name forever, and this is how I should be remembered from generation to generation.

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Ingledsva said:

What does any of that have to do with my answer to you?

The Elohiym of Jacob, etc., was not Melchizedek.

Melchizedek was a King of Jerusalem.

We are told whom the Elohiym of Jacob, Isaac, and Abraham, is.

Gen 3:15 And Elohiym said to Moses again, You shall say this to the sons of Israel, YHVH, the Elohiym of your fathers, the Elohiym of Abraham, the Elohiym of Isaac, and the Elohiym of Jacob, has sent me to you. This is My name forever, and this is how I should be remembered from generation to generation.

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because the name in exodus 3:14 represents the same idea from genesis 1:1, john 1:1-3, jeremiah 23:24

from the NIV

1. Exodus 3:15 The Hebrew for Lord sounds like and may be related to the Hebrew for I am in verse 14.;

lord, or yehovah, comes from a root word which is hayah. hayah is the verb in 3:14. the name is in 3:14. the name yehovah from exodus 3:15 is a "verbal" noun.

the name, not jehovah, but what the elohim used in exodus 3:14 is referred all throughout the bible. its in the lord's prayer, the 23rd psalms, isaiah 66:5 refers to it in reference to those who tried to exclude any, whether they were israelites or some other. it is the name used in exorcisms. it is the name thou shall not take in vain.

the logoi were all created by the logos, or i am that i am, or what is the infinite I

Fool said:

not everyone recognizes just how close god is. not everyone understands god now. you have separated yourself from god. a house divided against itself will fall.

the name from exodus 3:14 alone expresses it so as i am that i am, or i will be what i will be.

1 Corinthians 3:16
Don’t you know that you yourselves are God’s temple and that God’s Spirit dwells in your midst?

1 Corinthians 6:19
Do you not know that your bodies are temples of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own;

Colossians 3:11
11 Here there is no Gentile or Jew circumcised or uncircumcised, Christ is all and is in all.

John 14:20
On that day you will realize that I am in my Father, and you are in me, and I am in you.

Jeremiah 23:24
"Can a man hide himself in hiding places So I do not see him?" declares the LORD "Do I not fill the heavens and the earth?" declares the LORD.

1 Kings 8:27
"But will God indeed dwell on the earth? Behold, heaven and the highest heaven cannot contain You, how much less this house which I have built!

Jeremiah 17:10
"I the LORD search the heart and examine the mind, to reward each person according to their conduct, according to what their deeds deserve."

Isaiah 66
66 This is what the Lord says:

“Heaven is my throne,
and the earth is my footstool.
Where is the house you will build for me?
Where will my resting place be?
2 Has not my hand made all these things,
and so they came into being?”
declares the Lord.

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Fool,
I have studied the Holy Scriptures for over 50 years. I have studied each doctrine, so that I can do as the Bible says that all His people should be able to do, 1Peter 3:15. It is very important to understand the doctrines in the Bible, and not some pseudo-doctrines, or even cacodoctrines, that can lead to death.
Just remember Intertextuality, is true, and that the Bible is Univocal, so if you read in the Holy Bible something that does not agree with something you believe, you need to ascertain the truth, because God says that He is going to destroy all who do not love the truth, John 4:23,24, 2Thessalonians 2:6-12.
Over the years since the first century many false teachings have krypton into the Christian Congregation, until to day, the Christianity of the first century has been adulterated to such an extent that it is no longer true Christianity, Acts 20:26-30, 2Timothy 4:2-5, 2Peter 2:1-3. Paul tells us that Christians will have to overturn deep seated things that have been learned about the Christ, 2Corinthians 10:2-4, Matthew 7:21-23, Luke 13:23,23.
Truth is very important, and there is no excuse for not knowing the truth, because the Bible is where all should turn.
Even though all Bibles have a few mistakes in them, scholars of the Bible say that there is no mistakes that adulterate the doctrines in the Bible, Proverbs 3:5,6, Psalms 12:6,7, Isaiah 40:8, 1Peter 1:25. Agape!!!

12jtartar said:

Fool,
I have studied the Holy Scriptures for over 50 years. I have studied each doctrine, so that I can do as the Bible says that all His people should be able to do, 1Peter 3:15. It is very important to understand the doctrines in the Bible, and not some pseudo-doctrines, or even cacodoctrines, that can lead to death.
Just remember Intertextuality, is true, and that the Bible is Univocal, so if you read in the Holy Bible something that does not agree with something you believe, you need to ascertain the truth, because God says that He is going to destroy all who do not love the truth, John 4:23,24, 2Thessalonians 2:6-12.
Over the years since the first century many false teachings have krypton into the Christian Congregation, until to day, the Christianity of the first century has been adulterated to such an extent that it is no longer true Christianity, Acts 20:26-30, 2Timothy 4:2-5, 2Peter 2:1-3. Paul tells us that Christians will have to overturn deep seated things that have been learned about the Christ, 2Corinthians 10:2-4, Matthew 7:21-23, Luke 13:23,23.
Truth is very important, and there is no excuse for not knowing the truth, because the Bible is where all should turn.
Even though all Bibles have a few mistakes in them, scholars of the Bible say that there is no mistakes that adulterate the doctrines in the Bible, Proverbs 3:5,6, Psalms 12:6,7, Isaiah 40:8, 1Peter 1:25. Agape!!!

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you don't suppose the pharisees studied their ot diligently and still became lost?


Once, on being asked by the Pharisees when the kingdom of God would come, Jesus replied, "The coming of the kingdom of God is not something that can be observed, nor will people say, 'Here it is,' or 'There it is,' because the kingdom of God is in your midst."


Love is a circle whose center is everywhere and whose circumference is no where.


1 Corinthians 1:18
[ Christ Crucified Is God’s Power and Wisdom ] For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God.

a cross = a yoke

1 Kings 19:19
[ The Call of Elisha ] So Elijah went from there and found Elisha son of Shaphat. He was plowing with twelve yoke of oxen, and he himself was driving the twelfth pair. Elijah went up to him and threw his cloak around him.


with what we sow it will be measured too.

Fool,
You bring up a good point about learning the truth of God’s word.
The OT teachers went wrong in several ways.
They started off with good intentions, but they strayed from what the Bible said and started obeying the Traditions that their forefathers wrote down. There intentions were probably were good because they added many things to the Bible doctrines to keep the people from even getting close to disobeying the Law of Moses. They added so many things so that the Mishnah came to have 36,000 pages of instructions about every act that could be done from gettin up in the morning to going to bed at night. All this was wrong, they did exactly what God had written, not to do, Deuteronomy 4:2.
Jesus was condemned by the Pharisees and Saducees, because they were judging him on their Traditions. Jesus mentioned this at Matthew 15:1-20, Mark 7:6-13.
It takes more than SAYING that something is what God says, it takes a sincere reading of the Holy Scriptures, to make sure, Romans 12:1,2, Acts 17:0,11, Here at Acts the things they were learning were things that Paul was teaching, still they were showing that what God says in His Holy Scriptures is what is to be trusted more than from any man!
Because the religious leaders were so set in their teachings, Jesus, several times said things to shock, even insult them, Matthew 23:33, John 8:38-45. Jesus was able to read the hearts of people, so he said things to shake them up, and it worked on many of the religious leaders, as we are told at Acts 6:7.
The only way for anyone to be able to understand God’s word is to be humble, as a little child, not haughty, or snobbish, Matthew 18:1-4. You must put full trust in what the Bible says, and not put trust in men, because we will all stand before The Judgment Seat, and answer, for ourselves, Proverbs 3:5:6, Romans 14:10-12, Psalms 146:3,4, James 3:1, 1Thessalonians 5:21.
A true Christian should be able to explain to anyone who asks him, the reason for the hope in him, 1Peter 3:15, Romans 12:1,2, Acts 17:11. Agape!!!