Govt. a minister of God regarding Christians being Non Violent

Boll Weevil · Nov 16, 2017

Oeste said:
Absolutely!

So if we don't want to be picked on, we shouldn't pick on anyone. But if we are picked on and wish someone would step up or step in then we should be willing to do the same.

The golden rule still applies.

I don't want a person going against Jesus' principles for me e.g. fighting, harming, retaliating against someone to protect me. This is not what Jesus taught, we should want all people to follow Jesus, and He was very clear regarding how we treat people. If one studies there cannot be found any exceptions or justifications to ever harm another.

Boll Weevil · Nov 16, 2017

Valjean said:
My point is, when one minister of God orders his people to fight the people of another minister of God, who's right? Is God schizophrenic? Why is he fighting Himself?
If leaders were really God's representatives I'd expect them all to be in perfect agreement with each other.

Where do we find God giving this order to fight and how does He give this order? Also it is not God fighting so He's not fighting Himself. Man has a choice to war with each other; God has not condoned us to fight, He's been very clear on that. Should one choose to follow Jesus then he can't follow an earthly government by signing up to fight, we must choose who we will follow, man or God. The main point is a Christian should not be part of an earthly government when that government is saying go and physically fight. So there's not a misunderstanding Jesus does not say we can't work for the government yet when it comes to right and wrong God always trumps everything else e.g. our job, duties, the government's directives, etc. A Christian is a minister of God by being part of His church, not a man made organization. Jesus was clear that His kingdom (government) was not of this world, it's Spiritual. How could a Christian fight against another Christian, this makes no sense. You're right worldly leaders when it comes to war (or anything that goes against God) are not followers of Jesus and true ministers of God.

Boll Weevil · Nov 16, 2017

Musing Bassist said:
By noting that I'm only subject to my own country and only in so far as those who govern that country act in accordance to natural and moral law.

All societies are called to conduct themselves within accordance to moral law, and in so far as they do so those who govern society are as such God's minsters. However, being called to towards an ideal and adopting that ideal are two different things. It's not at all implied by the quoted passage that all authorities will actually behave legitimately. And Catholic tradition makes it clear when secular authority is at odds with moral law it isn't to be obeyed. A famous Catholic maxim states "Lex iniusta non est lex." (An unjust law is no law at all).

As a Christian my subjection to my spiritual kingdom, my subjection to Jesus trumps my subjection to any country, organization, or entity. And Jesus has given us the moral law, not man (country or government).

Faithofchristian · Nov 16, 2017

Boll Weevil said:
For those who believe a Christian is justified in fighting for their country; how do you reconcile that you would be fighting against God's minister? Romans 13:1-7 states that the governing authority is a minister of God. Going to battle or war is going against another governing authority which is God's minister. How could this be justifiable for a Christian to fight against other Christians and another minister of God?

If you didn't notice that of Romans 13:1--"Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers, For there is no power but of God:
the powers that be are ordained of God"

Your taking Romans 13:1-7 out of it's context, This is not talking about man's governing power. No.
This is referring to God's governing power, and not man's governing power.

Notice "Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. This being the higher powers of God. And not man's.
There is only one higher powers, and that is God's higher powers.

Therefore let every man be a minister unto God's higher powers.

Glaurung · Nov 16, 2017

Boll Weevil said:
As a Christian my subjection to my spiritual kingdom, my subjection to Jesus trumps my subjection to any country, organization, or entity. And Jesus has given us the moral law, not man (country or government).

You're obviously not reading what I wrote.

I never said that human allegiances trump what we owe to God.
I never said that the moral law is man made.

Oeste · Nov 16, 2017

DavidFirth said:
What about, Do unto others as you would have them do unto you? Does that not apply?

Oeste said:
Absolutely!

So if we don't want to be picked on, we shouldn't pick on anyone. But if we are picked on and wish someone would step up or step in then we should be willing to do the same.

The golden rule still applies.

Boll Weevil said:
I don't want a person going against Jesus' principles for me e.g. fighting, harming, retaliating against someone to protect me.

Let's take an example of child trafficking. If my daughter is abducted to be peddled from man to man, I would expect the police to fight on her behalf. As my daughter she has the expectation that I would fight on her behalf. I wouldn't give a squat about "harming" their enterprise, and yes, once caught I would expect the State's swift retaliation on the perpetrators.

Look, it's Saturday morning at your apartment complex. You're sitting at home drinking coffee. You hear someone shouting "Help!" and look out your apartment window to see a young woman being attacked by a masked man. Do you go back to your coffee? Do you encourage your neighbors to do the same? Do you rationalize by saying "Jesus isn't helping her, so why should I"?

Or do you shout out to the woman "Keep quiet! You know full well that if I call the police our justice system may retaliate against your attacker!"

So yes, if someone is harming another they themselves might be harmed. I see nothing in Jesus's words that tell us to be apathetic about injustice.

Boll Weevil said:
This is not what Jesus taught, we should want all people to follow Jesus, and He was very clear regarding how we treat people. .

Yes, "...we should want all people to follow Jesus..." but we should recognize we live in a world where quite a few people don't. Besides, Jesus was not a pacifist.

Boll Weevil said:
If one studies there cannot be found any exceptions or justifications to ever harm another

I find there are many examples in scripture where one person harms another...some justified and others not at all.

Boll Weevil · Nov 17, 2017

Faithofchristian said:
If you didn't notice that of Romans 13:1--"Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers, For there is no power but of God:
the powers that be are ordained of God"

Your taking Romans 13:1-7 out of it's context, This is not talking about man's governing power. No.
This is referring to God's governing power, and not man's governing power.

Notice "Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. This being the higher powers of God. And not man's.
There is only one higher powers, and that is God's higher powers.

Therefore let every man be a minister unto God's higher powers.

I'm making an argument against Christians using the government as a justification to harm or kill others. Maybe I haven't made a compelling or good argument by using Romans 13. One's employer (government/military) does not change what God expects of His people; therefore Christians should not believe they can kill just because God says the earthly authorities are His ministers and He has given them authority. Man does have authority over other men via governments. I believe government being a minister of God has a different purpose than the entity of His church which is a minister with a much more important purpose. I see "Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers" as referring to earthly authorities. I agree that God is the highest power and authority and that is what we follow no matter what man says. God's governing power for His main purpose is the church: Christians. I don't see earthly governments as Godly nor carrying out the ultimate will of God. I believe God is telling us in Romans 13 that we should obey earthly governments and not go against it. Of course this would apply up to the point the government contradicts God's principles then we don't follow the government in that regard; God's instruction and principles take priority over any man or government. Not sure if that explains my position better or if you have a disagreement.

Boll Weevil · Nov 17, 2017

Oeste said:
I find there are many examples in scripture where one person harms another...some justified and others not at all.

Please give scripture of justifiable harm for Christians. And the OT does not apply to Christians, this is also very clear that we are under the direction of Jesus. God gave His desires and will to His people through Moses and prophets in the OT, today He speaks to His people through Jesus. Jesus even used the OT when making some of His points e.g. Matthew 5:38 - and following, Jesus lays out principles for us that are different than what we find in the OT.

Boll Weevil · Nov 17, 2017

Musing Bassist said:
You're obviously not reading what I wrote.

I never said that human allegiances trump what we owe to God.

I never said that the moral law is man made.

You're correct, my apologies. We agree on this.

MonkeyFire · Nov 17, 2017

God forbids knowing of good and evil.

Twilight Hue · Nov 17, 2017

Boll Weevil said:
For those who believe a Christian is justified in fighting for their country; how do you reconcile that you would be fighting against God's minister? Romans 13:1-7 states that the governing authority is a minister of God. Going to battle or war is going against another governing authority which is God's minister. How could this be justifiable for a Christian to fight against other Christians and another minister of God?

Clergy fight!!!!!!!!

Oeste · Nov 17, 2017

Boll Weevil said:
Please give scripture of justifiable harm for Christians. And the OT does not apply to Christians, this is also very clear that we are under the direction of Jesus. God gave His desires and will to His people through Moses and prophets in the OT, today He speaks to His people through Jesus. Jesus even used the OT when making some of His points e.g. Matthew 5:38 - and following, Jesus lays out principles for us that are different than what we find in the OT.

Do you have the Old Testament in your bible? Why so, if it doesn't apply to Christians?

We are not under the Law (Romans 10:4, Ephesians 2:15) but that doesn't mean we can now cast out the Old Testament with the bath water. The bible is a unit (Matthew 5:8, John 10:35*) and either all of it applies or none of it applies. In other words the Law has not been abolished but fulfilled for Christians. This includes the ceremonial, sacrificial, clothing, and food rules that the Jews were required to uphold.

Besides, Jesus is Yahweh of the Old Testament. Yahweh doesn't change from year to year, century to century, or from New to Old Testament (Malachi 3:6) and neither does Jesus (Hebrews 13:8).

When Jesus was on earth he constantly referred to the Old Testament's scriptural authority by stating "It is written". I see no reason why Christian's can't do the same. If we are to love our neighbor we must first turn to the Old Testament to see how God wanted this love to be manifest.

It's been my experience that when any assumption is based on complete dismissal of huge swaths of scripture (or half of it as it is here), the argument is already in great peril.

*edited to add correct verse

Boll Weevil · Nov 22, 2017

Oeste said:
Do you have the Old Testament in your bible? Why so, if it doesn't apply to Christians?

We are not under the Law (Romans 10:4, Ephesians 2:15) but that doesn't mean we can now cast out the Old Testament with the bath water. The bible is a unit (Matthew 5:8, John 10:35*) and either all of it applies or none of it applies. In other words the Law has not been abolished but fulfilled for Christians. This includes the ceremonial, sacrificial, clothing, and food rules that the Jews were required to uphold.

Besides, Jesus is Yahweh of the Old Testament. Yahweh doesn't change from year to year, century to century, or from New to Old Testament (Malachi 3:6) and neither does Jesus (Hebrews 13:8).

When Jesus was on earth he constantly referred to the Old Testament's scriptural authority by stating "It is written". I see no reason why Christian's can't do the same. If we are to love our neighbor we must first turn to the Old Testament to see how God wanted this love to be manifest.

It's been my experience that when any assumption is based on complete dismissal of huge swaths of scripture (or half of it as it is here), the argument is already in great peril.

*edited to add correct verse

Not clear on what points you're making. No assumptions here and not dismissing any part of OT or NT. A few of the Old Laws and expectation of God’s people, the Jews: physical circumcision, animal and grain sacrifices for sins and for things other than sins, sanctuary cities for criminals, observing the Sabbath by doing no work, the Levites have a higher standing, stoning disobedient children, leaving the corners of your grain fields for the poor, cannot eat rabbits, hogs; no fish without fins and scales; can't eat eagles, vultures, buzzards, kites, falcons, ravens, ostrich, owls, seagulls, hawks, heron; women offering sacrifices for atonement after childbirth, observing certain festivals, can't be around a woman when she's menstruating. And hundreds of other laws that are not applicable to Christians, including war. Either we are under the Old Law or we aren't and if we are then we can't pick and choose which part we will follow. The NT and OT have different purposes, God has explained that.
Galatians 3:24-29 Therefore the Law has become our tutor to lead us to Christ, so that we may be justified by faith. But now that faith has come, we are no longer under a tutor. For you are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus. For all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free man, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus. And if you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham’s descendants, heirs according to promise.
The way God wants His people to live has been given to them through Jesus, no longer through Moses and the prophets. Jesus did refer to the OT and clearly said You have heard an eye for an eye...but I tell you do not resist an evil one. Jesus is clearly trumping the OT because He say "but I tell you". Hebrews 1:1-2 God, after He spoke long ago to the fathers in the prophets in many portions and in many ways, in these last days has spoken to us in His Son, whom He appointed heir of all things, through whom also He made the world. Galatians 3:6-14 ....Christ redeemed us from the curse of the Law, having become a curse for us—for it is written, “Cursed is everyone who hangs on a tree”.... Galatians 3:15-29 Brethren, I speak in terms of human relations: even though it is only a man’s covenant, yet when it has been ratified, no one sets it aside or adds conditions to it. Now the promises were spoken to Abraham and to his seed. He does not say, “And to seeds,” as referring to many, but rather to one, “And to your seed,” that is, Christ. What I am saying is this: the Law, which came four hundred and thirty years later, does not invalidate a covenant previously ratified by God, so as to nullify the promise. For if the inheritance is based on law, it is no longer based on a promise; but God has granted it to Abraham by means of a promise. Why the Law then? It was added because of transgressions, having been ordained through angels by the agency of a mediator, until the seed would come to whom the promise had been made. Now a mediator is not for one party only; whereas God is only one. Is the Law then contrary to the promises of God? May it never be! For if a law had been given which was able to impart life, then righteousness would indeed have been based on law. But the Scripture has shut up everyone under sin, so that the promise by faith in Jesus Christ might be given to those who believe. But before faith came, we were kept in custody under the law, being shut up to the faith which was later to be revealed. Therefore the Law has become our tutor to lead us to Christ, so that we may be justified by faith. But now that faith has come, we are no longer under a tutor. For you are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus. For all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free man, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus. And if you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham’s descendants, heirs according to promise. Ephesians 2:11-22 ....For He Himself is our peace, who made both groups into one and broke down the barrier of the dividing wall, by abolishing in His flesh the enmity, which is the Law of commandments contained in ordinances, so that in Himself He might make the two into one new man, thus establishing peace, and might reconcile them both in one body to God through the cross, by it having put to death the enmity.... Hebrews 8:13 When He said, “A new covenant,” He has made the first obsolete. But whatever is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to disappear. Romans 8:1-8 Therefore there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus. For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has set you free from the law of sin and of death. For what the Law could not do, weak as it was through the flesh, God did: sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and as an offering for sin, He condemned sin in the flesh, so that the requirement of the Law might be fulfilled in us, who do not walk according to the flesh but according to the Spirit. For those who are according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who are according to the Spirit, the things of the Spirit. For the mind set on the flesh is death, but the mind set on the Spirit is life and peace, because the mind set on the flesh is hostile toward God; for it does not subject itself to the law of God, for it is not even able to do so, and those who are in the flesh cannot please God. We follow Jesus' principles and He clearly taught absolute nonviolence! Matthew 17:1-8 Six days later Jesus *took with Him Peter and James and John his brother, and *led them up on a high mountain by themselves. And He was transfigured before them; and His face shone like the sun, and His garments became as white as light. And behold, Moses and Elijah appeared to them, talking with Him. Peter said to Jesus, “Lord, it is good for us to be here; if You wish, I will make three tabernacles here, one for You, and one for Moses, and one for Elijah.” While he was still speaking, a bright cloud overshadowed them, and behold, a voice out of the cloud said, “This is My beloved Son, with whom I am well-pleased; listen to Him!” When the disciples heard this, they fell face down to the ground and were terrified. And Jesus came to them and touched them and said, “Get up, and do not be afraid.” And lifting up their eyes, they saw no one except Jesus Himself alone.

Faithofchristian · Nov 23, 2017

Oeste said:
Do you have the Old Testament in your bible? Why so, if it doesn't apply to Christians?

We are not under the Law (Romans 10:4, Ephesians 2:15) but that doesn't mean we can now cast out the Old Testament with the bath water. The bible is a unit (Matthew 5:8, John 10:35*) and either all of it applies or none of it applies. In other words the Law has not been abolished but fulfilled for Christians. This includes the ceremonial, sacrificial, clothing, and food rules that the Jews were required to uphold.

Besides, Jesus is Yahweh of the Old Testament. Yahweh doesn't change from year to year, century to century, or from New to Old Testament (Malachi 3:6) and neither does Jesus (Hebrews 13:8).

When Jesus was on earth he constantly referred to the Old Testament's scriptural authority by stating "It is written". I see no reason why Christian's can't do the same. If we are to love our neighbor we must first turn to the Old Testament to see how God wanted this love to be manifest.

It's been my experience that when any assumption is based on complete dismissal of huge swaths of scripture (or half of it as it is here), the argument is already in great peril.

*edited to add correct verse

As to which Law is Paul referring to in Romans 10:4 and Ephesians 2:15

Who is your Neighbour, according to the old testament?

Christ Jesus gave an example in
Luke 10:31-36, There were a Priest and a Levite and a Samaritan. Of these 3 who was the Neighbour?

Oeste · Nov 24, 2017

Boll Weevil said:
Please give scripture of justifiable harm for Christians. And the OT does not apply to Christians, this is also very clear that we are under the direction of Jesus. God gave His desires and will to His people through Moses and prophets in the OT, today He speaks to His people through Jesus.

Oeste said:
Do you have the Old Testament in your bible? Why so, if it doesn't apply to Christians?

Boll Weevil said:
Not clear on what points you're making. No assumptions here and not dismissing any part of OT or NT.

You stated that the Old Testament does not apply to Christians, which, if it does not, leads to the obvious question as to why anyone would have bothered to include it in our canon to begin with.

However we do agree that certain aspects of the Old Testament, like the ceremonies and Law do not apply to Christians.

Boll Weevil said:
The NT and OT have different purposes, God has explained that.

The purpose of the Old and the New Testaments are designed to lead us to Christ but I would agree that there are distinct differences in approach. The Old is foundational and the New builds on that foundation. For instance, the Old Testament shows us God's wrath against sin with glimpses of His grace and mercy, whilst the New Testament shows us God's grace and mercy with glimpses of His wrath against sin.

Boll Weevil said:
We follow Jesus' principles and He clearly taught absolute nonviolence! Matthew 17:1-8

Did Jesus teach us to turn the other cheek? Sure. But absolute nonviolence? No, and Matthew 17:1-8 does not say differently.

Oeste · Nov 25, 2017

Faithofchristian said:
As to which Law is Paul referring to in Romans 10:4 and Ephesians 2:15

Who is your Neighbour, according to the old testament?

Christ Jesus gave an example in
Luke 10:31-36, There were a Priest and a Levite and a Samaritan. Of these 3 who was the Neighbour?

The Samaritan of course. Actually all were neighbors, but the Samaritan was a better neighbor, or friend, to the man beset by robbers.

Let's change this parable a bit:

A man was going down from Jerusalem to Jericho when he was beset by a robber. Now by chance a Catholic priest was going down that road, and when he saw them he passed by on the other side. So likewise a Baptist Minister, when he came to the place and saw them, passed by on the other side. But an Iman, as he journeyed, came to where he was, and when he saw them had compassion, and helped the man chase off the robber.

Who is the better neighbor to this man?

Faithofchristian · Nov 25, 2017

Oeste said:
The Samaritan of course. Actually all were neighbors, but the Samaritan was a better neighbor, or friend, to the man beset by robbers.

Let's change this parable a bit:

A man was going down from Jerusalem to Jericho when he was beset by a robber. Now by chance a Catholic priest was going down that road, and when he saw them he passed by on the other side. So likewise a Baptist Minister, when he came to the place and saw them, passed by on the other side. But an Iman, as he journeyed, came to where he was, and when he saw them had compassion, and helped the man chase off the robber.

Who is the better neighbor to this man?

Who gave you the right to change anything what Christ Jesus has given, Your over stepping your boundaries.

There is only one Neighbour. The Samaritan was the good Neighbour.

The Priest and Levite were brother's in Israel.

The Samaritan lived along side by Israel, But were not no part of Israel.
Therefore the Samaritan's being Israel's good Neighbour.

Oeste · Nov 25, 2017

Faithofchristian said:
Who gave you the right to change anything what Christ Jesus has given,

Do you actually believe I just changed the bible? Take a deep breath then look back in your bible. You’ll find I haven’t changed anything. The parable is still there just as it was written.

Faithofchristian said:

Your over stepping your boundaries.

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Are you being facetious? When did you establish “boundaries” for me on this forum? Are you a moderator?? Have you established them for anyone else???

The ability to think critically and objectively is fundamental to sound Christian doctrine. For instance, Jesus did come but if your theology cannot answer a simple question like “What if Jesus never came?” or “What if Jesus accepted Satan’s offer?” without going into a hissy fit, what good is your theology?

The only religious people I know who have low tolerance to critical, objective or independent thinking belong to group thinkers, commonly known as cults... and their theologies don't fair well on forums like these.

Oeste said:
The Samaritan of course. Actually all were neighbors, but the Samaritan was a better neighbor, or friend, to the man beset by robbers.

Faithofchristian said:
There is only one Neighbour. The Samaritan was the good Neighbour.

The Priest and Levite were brother's in Israel.

Ah, so brothers cannot be neighbors???

Where in the bible does it state this, or do I “overstep my boundaries” by asking?

Also, why didn’t the lawyer point out this obvious “fact” to Jesus… that we are commanded to love our neighbors, but the Preist and Levite weren’t neighbors and thus rightly passed by their fellow traveler, whereas the Samaritan was a neighbor and had an obligation to stop?

Faithofchristian said:
The Samaritan lived along side by Israel, But were not no part of Israel.
Therefore the Samaritan's being Israel's good Neighbour.

Really?

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After you've found Samaria on this map of Israel, help me get this straight...

You're actually saying Samaritans "lived alongside by Israel" so they were neighbors, but the Priest and Levites were Jews in Israel, which was by definition alongside Samaria, so they weren’t neighbors!

Wait…what???

Faithofchristian · Nov 25, 2017

Oeste said:
Do you actually believe I just changed the bible? Take a deep breath then look back in your bible. You’ll find I haven’t changed anything. The parable is still there just as it was written.

Are you being facetious? When did you establish “boundaries” for me on this forum? Are you a moderator?? Have you established them for anyone else???

The ability to think critically and objectively is fundamental to sound Christian doctrine. For instance, Jesus did come but if your theology cannot answer a simple question like “What if Jesus never came?” or “What if Jesus accepted Satan’s offer?” without going into a hissy fit, what good is your theology?

The only religious people I know who have low tolerance to critical, objective or independent thinking belong to group thinkers, commonly known as cults... and their theologies don't fair well on forums like these.

Ah, so brothers cannot be neighbors???

Where in the bible does it state this, or do I “overstep my boundaries” by asking?

Also, why didn’t the lawyer point out this obvious “fact” to Jesus… that we are commanded to love our neighbors, but the Preist and Levite weren’t neighbors and thus rightly passed by their fellow traveler, whereas the Samaritan was a neighbor and had an obligation to stop?

Really?

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After you've found Samaria on this map of Israel, help me get this straight...

You're actually saying Samaritans "lived alongside by Israel" so they were neighbors, but the Priest and Levites were Jews in Israel, which was by definition alongside Samaria, so they weren’t neighbors!

Wait…what???

I didn't set boundaries, When you said, let's change this. Then your attempting to change something. Leave it as it is and to understand what it means.

Faithofchristian · Nov 25, 2017

Oeste said:
Do you actually believe I just changed the bible? Take a deep breath then look back in your bible. You’ll find I haven’t changed anything. The parable is still there just as it was written.

Are you being facetious? When did you establish “boundaries” for me on this forum? Are you a moderator?? Have you established them for anyone else???

The ability to think critically and objectively is fundamental to sound Christian doctrine. For instance, Jesus did come but if your theology cannot answer a simple question like “What if Jesus never came?” or “What if Jesus accepted Satan’s offer?” without going into a hissy fit, what good is your theology?

The only religious people I know who have low tolerance to critical, objective or independent thinking belong to group thinkers, commonly known as cults... and their theologies don't fair well on forums like these.

Ah, so brothers cannot be neighbors???

Where in the bible does it state this, or do I “overstep my boundaries” by asking?

Also, why didn’t the lawyer point out this obvious “fact” to Jesus… that we are commanded to love our neighbors, but the Preist and Levite weren’t neighbors and thus rightly passed by their fellow traveler, whereas the Samaritan was a neighbor and had an obligation to stop?

If you had read Luke 10:30 You would find that a certain man went down from Jerusalem to Jericho, This man was neither of Israel or of the Samaritans.

A Neighbour in Scriptures is not someone who lives next door to you.
A Neighbour is someone who attends a church, they are not a member, but a neighbour to those who belong to the church.

Those who are members of the church are brother's and sisters.
The neighbour is a person who attends the church, but is not a brother or sister, when the neighbour becomes a member of the church, then they become a brother and sister of the church.

The Samaritans worship the same God as did Israel and kept the things that were of God. The Samaritans were not of Israel, But the Samaritans were the good Neighbour to Israel.

I have people who live next to me, They don't believe in God as I do, Therefore they are not my Neighbour. My Neighbour is those who believe in the God as I do.

Say like a person who attends a Baptist Church and a person who attends the church of Christ, they are Neighbour's to each other.

You need to understand what a Neighbour is according to the bible, scriptures. And not just someone who lives next door to you. Your Neighbour is a person who believes in God like you do.

Really?

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After you've found Samaria on this map of Israel, help me get this straight...

You're actually saying Samaritans "lived alongside by Israel" so they were neighbors, but the Priest and Levites were Jews in Israel, which was by definition alongside Samaria, so they weren’t neighbors!

Wait…what???

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