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How are these Great Beings explained?

Vinayaka

devotee
Premium Member
Everything that exists is a part of the whole..... God.
That includes us as well as the tree in my back garden, and the starlings which sit in it. Everything in the Universe and beyond, and beyond.

In Saiva Siddhanta, God is seen as having three perfections ... that is exactly one of them. "God Siva is all and in all."
 

Aupmanyav

Be your own guru
Cool. So why are you wasting your time talking to Baha'is?
Because Bahais are talking about Krishna and trying to spread falsehood.
As to the Great Beings, we see them as more than Men, ..
What is the meaning of great beings? Are they 12 feet tall? We are all about the same with a thinking box above our body.
@Aupmanyav mystifies me somewhat. I wonder why he's here. We're in the general debate section. We're all free to come and go.
:D You ask a question and reply it yourself - and not incorrectly.
 
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Vinayaka

devotee
Premium Member
I was going to suggest you might be interested in reading Sri Yukteswar regarding Kali Yug:




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There are many theories and interpretations about the Kali Yuga in Hinduism. Some folks don't give it a timeline at all, but by events. For example, In my sampradaya, the Kali Yuga is over on the last day a man is killed at the hands of another man. Lot's of folks put little stock in it at all, while others stick to the literal interpretations, often contradictory because of vastness. So there is no right or wrong answer. Aup will already be familiar with the above interpretation.
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
Building the Baha'i' temples in lands all over the planet is a toe in the door. Sending 'pioneers' to far off lands is putting a toe in the door. All proselytizing faiths do it, some are more persistent than others.
We have nine christian churches in my immediate enviornment, a church in my apartment building owned by the Church. We have all christian bookstores, a wall of christian books at the larger bookstores. (Ten books on hinduism. Three books on buddhism. Probably twenty secular trying to combine the religions with christian worldview) Bibles at every hotel bedside. You cant go two days without god bless you. A day in the apt complex itself.

Two hindu temples, four buddhist temples. Most are on private property. One bahai temple.

and a porridge and a gene pear tree. :deciduous:
 

Vinayaka

devotee
Premium Member
Cool. So why are you wasting your time talking to Baha'is?
I've had the same thought about myself many times. But them I read another myth about my religion, and I remain. Aup is a staunch defender against lies, and I'm really glad he's on scene. You think I'm blunt? Just wait.
 

Aupmanyav

Be your own guru
The world has come a long way in the last 200 years since Baha'u'llah was born. Many of His teachings that would have been considered unthinkable in nineteenth century Persia have become mainstream today.
Persia may have been backward but the whole world was not. Tell me of one such teaching that other people did not have.
There are many theories and interpretations about the Kali Yuga in Hinduism. Some folks don't give it a timeline at all, but by events. For example, In my sampradaya, the Kali Yuga is over on the last day a man is killed at the hands of another man. Lot's of folks put little stock in it at all, while others stick to the literal interpretations, often contradictory because of vastness. So there is no right or wrong answer. Aup will already be familiar with the above interpretation.
The Yugas are a Vaishnava scheme, so I will go with them (though I am not one). Kaliyuga is for 464,000 years of which we have gone through 5119 years. Therefore the Kaliya avatara of Lord Vishnu will be around 45,881 years from now. The world will not fold itself at that time. There will be many more cycles of four yugas. The great dissolution (Pralaya) is far away, about 155 trillion years. :D
Manvantara - Wikipedia
 
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oldbadger

Skanky Old Mongrel!
It is clear from John 12 and John 13 that Jesus knew what was coming and it is what His Heavenly Father required of Him.

It was Caiaphas the high Priest and the council who sealed the deal as they considered Jesus a heretic and to have Blaphemed against God.
Matthew 26:57-68

Sure He caused a disturbance in the the temple. He didn't incite riots.

There is no evidence of Jesus having military intent to over throw the authorities.
Nope.
Ingledsva has nailed all this............
Don't pay much attention to G-John, who was nowhere near events.
Yeshua was hoping to build up the support of the peasantry to force change, back to the old laws. That's insurrection, however reversed it may seem to be.
 

loverofhumanity

We are all the leaves of one tree
Premium Member
Before Baha'u'llah's "correct" interpretation, did anyone have the correct interpretation of Christianity?

My understanding is that the basic foundation of belief in Christianity was that Jesus was a Manifestation of God called the Son of God.

I believe that once the Divinity of Jesus deviated from that then Christianity began to gradually lose its way and fall prey to man made dogmas which eventually caused splits and wars.

Politics and power became more important then love and I also believe that’s why Muhammad was sent to not only bring a new Revelation but clear up the misconceptions and false dogmas that were being taught to Christians.
 

Vinayaka

devotee
Premium Member
OK, I understand that perfection.
Is it possible for you to show me the other two perfections in writing?

That one is in the middle, philosophically. One other, also termed Brahman, is the primal Cause, beyond all form, time, and space. It's the innermost essence, even deeper than this one. Beyond words.

The other is in the other direction, termed the Primal Soul in English, portrayed as Nataraja in Saivism, the first Being, from which all other forms and beings are emanated.
 

loverofhumanity

We are all the leaves of one tree
Premium Member
I think there are many factors. One is mental illness, (the lone wolf), another is flock mentality and a place to belong. (ISIS) Yet another is age-old long term feuds (Tamil versus Sinhalese in Sri Lanka). It's not something i can personally relate to at all, but there are a lot of things in this world that make no sense to me. Tough to judge when we haven't walked in those shoes. Many of us in the west have lived only in ridiculously safe and friendly environments. It's made us too naive in many ways. My eyes were opened somewhat by association with the Sri Lankans, some of whom were refugees. Did you know there is a refugee campin India of Sri Lankans of about 100 000 people who've been in limbo for over 30 years? Long since forgotten about by the rest of the planet. But the real concern is in Yemen.

I complain about a poor driver or the temperature here. It's absurd.

We have life ridiculously easy in the West materially but not spiritually. Things like crime, drug addiction, suicide and alcoholism reflect the spiritual bankruptcy of our societies.

They think throwing money or more security at these problems will make them go away but they never seem to pause and reflect that the problem could be lack of true religion or spirituality.
 
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