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This Week in Stupid (05/11/2017)

Father

Devourer of Truth
Sometimes I just love 4chan
what started in one school thanks to the news started a wave. a troll wave. a wave of spider webs that any in opposition cannot stand against. its 4d chess at its finest.

Left 0: Right 1:

Edit: don't bother commenting if you didn't watch the video. this has been a PSA from the
"knock your BS off foundation"
 
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Father

Devourer of Truth
That's alt-right junk imo. Don't even need to watch it
funny how he is a true liberal. though it would appear not since the left is now authoritarian. though nice dismissal of opposition based on party politics and buzz word labeling. very effective.
furthermore ironic when you look at his demographic which he did a video on based on youtube's algorithm and poll showing that there are far more centrists and even left-wing traditional liberals than those who fall under "alt-right"
 

Debater Slayer

Vipassana
Staff member
Premium Member
Sometimes I just love 4chan
what started in one school thanks to the news started a wave. a troll wave. a wave of spider webs that any in opposition cannot stand against. its 4d chess at its finest.

Left 0: Right 1:

Childishness: 1. Your post: 0.

I worry about the quality of the posts on this forum sometimes, but then I remind myself that posts of the maturity level of this thread are a minority here, thankfully.
 

leibowde84

Veteran Member
funny how he is a true liberal. though it would appear not since the left is now authoritarian. though nice dismissal of opposition based on party politics and buzz word labeling. very effective.
furthermore ironic when you look at his demographic which he did a video on based on youtube's algorithm and poll showing that there are far more centrists and even left-wing traditional liberals than those who fall under "alt-right"
I've never heard anyone say it isn't alright to be white. To say that it wasn't OK or that your skin color is something to be ashamed of is ludicrous (and the very definition of racism). But, this is nothing more than a straw man, as no one argues it is not OK to be white.
 

Father

Devourer of Truth
I've never heard anyone say it isn't alright to be white. To say that it wasn't OK or that your skin color is something to be ashamed of is ludicrous (and the very definition of racism). But, this is nothing more than a straw man, as no one argues it is not OK to be white.
actually many are. watch the video. many on the left. they don't say it directly but through many other ways. though not just this video i can link you mounds of cases of them making that exact point. its not ok to be white to some and simply being white itself is bad to some
 

Father

Devourer of Truth
Childishness: 1. Your post: 0.

I worry about the quality of the posts on this forum sometimes, but then I remind myself that posts of the maturity level of this thread are a minority here, thankfully.
going to bet you did not actually watch the video and simply questioned quality without seeing a thing.
is it childish? I don't know ask the news who made a big deal about a piece of paper.
 

leibowde84

Veteran Member
actually many are. watch the video. many on the left. they don't say it directly but through many other ways. though not just this video i can link you mounds of cases of them making that exact point. its not ok to be white to some and simply being white itself is bad to some
If they don't say it directly, you are most likely unconsciously putting words in their mouths. For example, saying that white privilege exists in the world is in no way saying that it isn't OK to be white. It doesn't mean that all white people have an advantage. And, it doesn't mean that we should all feel guilty for slavery, as no one alive participated in it. It just means that white people are in more positions of power in the U.S., and we face less discrimination generally.

Some have an incorrect understanding of what it means, wrongly taking it as white people should feel bad about the color of their skin.
 

Father

Devourer of Truth
If they don't say it directly, you are most likely unconsciously putting words in their mouths. For example, saying that white privilege exists in the world is in no way saying that it isn't OK to be white. It doesn't mean that all white people have an advantage. And, it doesn't mean that we should all feel guilty for slavery, as no one alive participated in it. It just means that white people are in more positions of power in the U.S., and we face less discrimination generally.

Some have an incorrect understanding of what it means, wrongly taking it as white people should feel bad about the color of their skin.

no that's not at all how they perpetuate it. I can list 1000s of examples and I mean 1000s. they perpetuate it as a race card. as if white people are inherently superior that even in a full equal society they will oppress others. that is how they direct it. ive had long discussions with those who hold such ideals. it may originally have been that but that is not how the left portrays or uses it
the video lists many examples of that from actual sources. its not just some "alt-right" dude ranting no its a traditional Liberal reading through official articles, hardly taking anything out of context
 

leibowde84

Veteran Member
no that's not at all how they perpetuate it. I can list 1000s of examples and I mean 1000s. they perpetuate it as a race card. as if white people are inherently superior that even in a full equal society they will oppress others. that is how they direct it. ive had long discussions with those who hold such ideals. it may originally have been that but that is not how the left portrays or uses it
the video lists many examples of that from actual sources. its not just some "alt-right" dude ranting no its a traditional Liberal reading through official articles, hardly taking anything out of context
Can you provide some examples of "official articles" that make these claims?
 

Father

Devourer of Truth
Can you provide some examples of "official articles" that make these claims?
I shall first list the sources that the video provides. some not directly to do with just the thumbnail topic as he normally covers stupid things that occurred this week as shown here This Week in Stupid (05/11/2017)
which are all the articles he goes over in the video.
he does many videos on this topic and lists sources to all the articles he reply's to.
as for a few of the links provided above

‘It’s okay to be white’ signs and stickers appear on campuses and streets across the country

I Sometimes Don't Want to Be White Either | HuffPost

https://cdn-images-1.medium.com/max/800/1*Y0ncZQbGXrVLHfed7oSpOg.jpeg

Prof: I Chose Not To Have Children, Because They’d Be White

https://cdn-images-1.medium.com/max/800/1*atZJUh3aTouwYzPpBVtsHg.png

Majority Of White Americans Say They Believe Whites Face Discrimination

https://www.vice.com/en_uk/article/...please-stop-pretending-reverse-racism-is-real

White DNC chair candidate: My job will be to ‘shut other white people down’

Trump Administration Wants to Investigate ‘Race-Based Discrimination’ Against White College Applicants: Report

Black women become most educated group in US

Justice Dept. to Take On Affirmative Action in College Admissions

that's around half of them. I would post the rest but don't wish to flood you with links so you can use the first link as stated above for all of them.
 

Little Lunch

Atheist
I watched the video and I don't care about swearing, but something about the way this guy swears really grates on my nerves.
One thing they never, ever say, is how the thing they perceive to be so bad affects them directly.
 

tytlyf

Not Religious
funny how he is a true liberal. though it would appear not since the left is now authoritarian. though nice dismissal of opposition based on party politics and buzz word labeling. very effective.
furthermore ironic when you look at his demographic which he did a video on based on youtube's algorithm and poll showing that there are far more centrists and even left-wing traditional liberals than those who fall under "alt-right"
He's not a liberal. He's an alt-righter playing the conservative card for views. It's pretty popular these days. I'll ask again since I haven't had an answer. What are you favorite media sources?
 

Stevicus

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
Edit: don't bother commenting if you didn't watch the video. this has been a PSA from the
"knock your BS off foundation"

It's a 30-minute video. The least you could have done was post a brief summary in your own words.
 

leibowde84

Veteran Member

Alright, I don't think any of these would qualify as official communications. And, none of them say that it isn't OK to be white. But, here are a couple of points:

1. The fact that a majority of white people feel discriminated against in this country doesn't mean it is true. Personally, I've never for one second felt discriminated against because I'm white. I think the people who do confuse growing equality with discrimination. For example, affirmative action was absolutely necessary 20-30 years ago, but it might not be necessary anymore. But, obviously, a lingering policy that should be changed in no way evidences discrimination. It just means that our government has failed to act, which is true pretty much across the board when it comes to policy that needs changing.

Since during the 60s, 70s, and 80s (and even into the 90s) racism against minorities was extremely prevalent, actions had to be taken to make things more equal. White people were (and still are) in more positions of power, there was segregation (which was inherently unequal, even according to SCOTUS), white supremacist groups were running rampant killing and assaulting minorities, etc. Because whites were on top then, equality would mean that said privilege would slowly disappear to give minorities better standing in this country.

So, it seems that this change, starting to remove some of the privilege that the white population had in this country to make things more equal, makes some people wrongly assume that they are being treated unfairly. But, in actuality, it is the definition of fairness.

2. Individuals in a group making statements are not making official statements unless specifically indicated. It is absurd to hold an entire population (liberals, conservatives, democrats, republicans, blacks, whites, asians, hispanics, etc.) responsible for statements made by individual members of that group.

It would be like me claiming that the views of white nationalists who identify as conservatives represent the conservative movement in general. Or, that the views of that nutjob white supremacists showing off his illegal firearms online who got arrested represent the views of all NRA members.

So, there is no official communication here that I see claiming that it is not OK to be white. Personally, I don't see skin color as anything to be proud of, no matter what color it is. So, any sentiment that people shouldn't be proud to be white rings true to me. We shouldn't get credit for what our ancestors did, just as we shouldn't be blamed for the horrors they perpetrated.
 
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