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Does Allah curse those who leave Islam?
- Thread starter Lucian Hodoboc
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Tisk! tisk! no proselytizing. Against the rules of the forum.
Not necessarily imo
King Phenomenon
Well-Known Member
for me God doesnt curse people
Muffled
Jesus in me
I believe it is never a good idea to oppose God.
However there are millions of Christians in good health and more than likely atheists as well.
How about Islamic converts to Christianity? Are they all sick. I only know of one from Afghanistan and she is in fine health. I believe what we are seeing here in the video is a priori thinking and then looking for examples that support what the person wishes to belieive.
Muffled
Jesus in me
I have heard of Allah and am not cursed but blessed but then I am in Jesus and everything is a blessing.
DavidFirth
Well-Known Member
I think it is more of anyone who becomes a Christian becomes an immediate enemy of Satan. We all know Satan has his ways of trying to break down Christians and destroy them. Only faith can defeat him and most Christians don't know that or understand it
2 Peter 4
12 Dear friends, do not be surprised at the fiery ordeal that has come on you to test you, as though something strange were happening to you. 13 But rejoice inasmuch as you participate in the sufferings of Christ, so that you may be overjoyed when his glory is revealed. 14 If you are insulted because of the name of Christ, you are blessed, for the Spirit of glory and of God rests on you. 15 If you suffer, it should not be as a murderer or thief or any other kind of criminal, or even as a meddler. 16 However, if you suffer as a Christian, do not be ashamed, but praise God that you bear that name..
2 Peter 4
12 Dear friends, do not be surprised at the fiery ordeal that has come on you to test you, as though something strange were happening to you. 13 But rejoice inasmuch as you participate in the sufferings of Christ, so that you may be overjoyed when his glory is revealed. 14 If you are insulted because of the name of Christ, you are blessed, for the Spirit of glory and of God rests on you. 15 If you suffer, it should not be as a murderer or thief or any other kind of criminal, or even as a meddler. 16 However, if you suffer as a Christian, do not be ashamed, but praise God that you bear that name..
Muffled
Jesus in me
I believe leaving Islam for apostasy could be a curse but leaving it for Christianity is a blessing.
Muffled
Jesus in me
I believe seeing Satan behind everything undesirable is superstitious. Illness can be used as a judgement by God and I have seen that happen and in the case of Job it can be a test promulgated by the devil but sometimes it is just a person's destiny. Unless a person has a direct word from God about it, I believe it is irresponsible to say it is one thing or another.
DavidFirth
Well-Known Member
Well, that's not what I implied. What I implied is that Satan is definitely behind temptation and deception of Christians. He goes about like a roaring lion looking for someone to devour.
Muffled
Jesus in me
I believe those that do that are committing murder and God will judge them harshly for it.
Muffled
Jesus in me
I believe that is quite correct but that is only a general statement and does not allow us to automatically attribute any particular misfortune to it. Usually the devil looks for a weakness. He knows he can't attack a person where they are strong. Sometimes one can tell by spiritual perception when under attack. I went two years putting on the armor of God every day. I don't need to do that now but that does not mean he has stopped trying and he managed to come up with a new trick although I caught him and figured it out.
Muffled
Jesus in me
I believe that concept is not justified by scripture.
I believe this is not a fact but a bias.
DavidFirth
Well-Known Member
He never stops trying. He's a pesky devil, he is.
Akivah
Well-Known Member
Your Christian beliefs are irrelevant to the topic of this thread.
Muffled
Jesus in me
I believe no-one understands Allah better than a Christian.
Like all individual churches, religions and sects of whatever everybody of many diverse conflicting beliefs claim to know and understand God better than everyone else. There is a problem here, and it is one thing you have in common with the many divisions of Islam.
Lucian Hodoboc
Member
How come?
proudpagan
Member
Dude I already owned one of your kind in this forum who couldnt prove the authenticity and justification that islam is truly supercool.
Is any religion better than any other? Can any faith guarantee mental and spiritual uplift? [to all the way till last . page]
proudpagan
Member
The saheeh Sunnah indicates that it is essential to put the apostate to death.
Al-Bukhaari (6922) narrated that Ibn ‘Abbaas said: The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Whoever changes his religion, put him to death.”
Al-Bukhaari (6484) and Muslim (1676) narrated that ‘Abd-Allaah ibn Mas’ood said: The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “It is not permissible to shed the blood of a Muslim who bears witness that there is no god except Allaah and that I am the Messenger of Allaah, except in one of three cases: a soul for a soul (i.e., in the case of murder); a previously-married person who commits zina; and one who leaves his religion and separates from the main body of the Muslims.”
The general meaning of these ahaadeeth indicates that it is essential to put the apostate to death whether he is waging war on Islam (muhaarib) or not.