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Trump's 45.9%

Falvlun

Earthbending Lemur
Premium Member
Not his job, it's his parties job and Congress as a whole. So your point was?

He's doing what he can to add options via orders, but that's the extent of his power...
So, in other words, you have nothing to back up your claim that Trump is delivering on his promises.

Whether it's his "job" or not, he said he'd get things done that are absolutely going nowhere. It's not my fault he made promises he can't keep because he didn't know how any of this worked.

The rest of your stuff is presumption - that they're related to Trump they cannot do their job when everything in their life stories says otherwise. Trump isn't just Trump, Trump is his entire army and family and that's how he works. He's a rich guy that does business like a small business owner - he works with those he can count on. You hate that? You probably hate every mom and pop on the planet then... The damage is probably between your ears, not anything anyone here can help you with in that case.
This has nothing to do with anything I said.

We didn't elect Trump's family. We elected Trump.
 

Falvlun

Earthbending Lemur
Premium Member
I'm pretty sure he likes *****... After that, the reports of Trump being a douche to women is pretty rare. I think Clinton is a morally reprehensible individual not because of one specific action of her life, but the entirety of it. She's a parasite, and isn't fit to be a school custodian...
So, in other words, you just think she's scum because you think she's scum. Recursive and devoid of reason, as suspected.

I like how you think the wife of a man who likes ***** should be punished but a man who likes ***** is just fine.

The other stuff shows nothing other than his tastes are different than yours, it's irrelevant. Clinton's screw ups got people murdered... Just not the same thing... Even if what you were saying was true getting aroused by the company teenage girls isn't a crime. Sick old man? Yeah different strokes... still irrelevant...
It's personal taste to think that people should be paid for the jobs they do? It's personal taste that teenage girls shouldn't be perved on? It's personal morals that we should help our relatives babies when we are financially capable? What sort of effed up morals are you even talking about?

Edit: I'm not sure what Clinton "screwups" you are talking about, but Trump also has Yemen and a dead kid under his belt.

Apparently you know nothing about show biz... dressing rooms are pretty communal and people waking in on others happens all the time. Men and women getting naked and changed in the same areas... This isn't the real world, this is an aspect of this business sometimes the dressing areas are shared and sometimes you HAVE to get through the dressing area to get somewhere else. I've worked several live shows and you can just forget about privacy - you got 5 minutes to get your *** in gear or you get fired. You gotta be ready to go at the curtain or you are dead...
I don't see how Trump needed to be in dressing rooms for his job there. Furthermore, Does it occur to you that this is a culture that ought to be changed? Harvey Weinstein anyone?
 

DavidFirth

Well-Known Member
Why? I mean a lot of people say this, but please, articulate why you think that.

I think the woman is dishonest, a liar and filled with self-interest. At least she did delete enough emails to get away with wrongdoing in the Benghazi affair.
 

Falvlun

Earthbending Lemur
Premium Member
I think the woman is dishonest, a liar and filled with self-interest. At least she did delete enough emails to get away with wrongdoing in the Benghazi affair.
Thanks for the response!
But, I don't think you have any specific evidence to consider Clinton more dishonest or self-interested than the average politician.

I'm also interested in that it seems to apply to Trump: a known liar with undoubted self-interest.

As far as "Clinton deleting emails", this is just plain false. If you are going to judge someone, at least get the story straight. As far as Benghazi, there was nothing there.

Do you really think this justifies voting for an incompetent, unknowledgeable, man-child?
 

DavidFirth

Well-Known Member
Thanks for the response!
But, I don't think you have any specific evidence to consider Clinton more dishonest or self-interested than the average politician.

I'm also interested in that it seems to apply to Trump: a known liar with undoubted self-interest.

As far as "Clinton deleting emails", this is just plain false. If you are going to judge someone, at least get the story straight. As far as Benghazi, there was nothing there.

Do you really think this justifies voting for an incompetent, unknowledgeable, man-child?

I disagree with your post. I didnt vote for him so ask someone else.
 

MohammadPali

Active Member
The bad - the stonewalling Congress (from both sides of the aisle) rather than negotiating with him to take needed actions are blocking reforms and he's had to resort to executive orders which can be undone by a new President and lack the proper debate passing such bills would normally entail. This means even if he does great things, there may be no permanence. Upside is that we basically get to beta his ideas, and he can adjust them on the fly in the name of improvement. Ultimately, we have to ask if the Congress expects the President to work in isolation are they even doing their jobs? I think their jobs are to assist the President (where reasonable) to give the people what they want and certainly things like Obummercare where they are not working financially.

The good - the economy and the stock market are going gangbusters and mean great things for every American. You can hate his guts, but raw economic improvement "trumps" all. With additional resources the life of every single citizen gets better. I'm also seeing this translate into a great vibe locally, and this place has been pretty down emotionally for a long time. That is certainly refreshing... Taking a big stick to the EPA was necessary, they were using pseudoscience and cooked experiments to formulate a lot of their findings. A through discussion of this would be OT here, but let's say the good part of the EPA stops at automobiles. It's been destroying the economy often for no reason...



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Take a moment to breathe, and realize that IF you are an American this might be the best eight years of your life soon enough. These improvements in the economy are going to trickle down into things you'd never expected.



I don't need a hand out. I just want my government to actually work on resolving our debt issues, stop special interests groups from participating in our daily lives, better education for everyone, LOWER THE DAMN COLLEGE TUITION !!, My god, why the hell does it cost so much to go to school ? Why do they need 25 thousand dollars to go to college a year ! . Why the hell do books cost 150 dollars ? And they keep making newer editions ? I had to change majors twice, job fields twice. I'm tired of paying for a government that sucks. And everyone sucks, the democrats suck, the republicans suck.

And we have an air head in office, who just spoke to the president of the US virgin islands, hes a moron.
 

MohammadPali

Active Member
Hilary would have been garbage too in the whitehouse. Nothing would have been done either. Nothing is being done now. Hes not fixing anything, and they keep putting effort to ruin obama care. Trump promised a better health care system before coming in, and he lied about that, lied about his second attempt, and it turned out he never even had an idea it was someone elses, and it sucked. The guy is an idiot.

And he puts his daughter in-law, mr soft hands jared kushner in charge of middle east affairs, as if hes going to solve alot of issues or some of them. Hes an idiot real estate developer, an over rated century 21 sales man.

His son, whats his name again ?The one that looks like bramstrokers dracula ? I forgot his name, not the one who spoke to the russians about getting dirt on hillary, he said the same thing about his dad having great ideas, and they are just waiting to get into office to implement them. Nothing happened. BREXIT btw is a disaster.
 

Falvlun

Earthbending Lemur
Premium Member
I disagree with your post. I didnt vote for him so ask someone else.
Im sorry I thought you voted for trump.
But you did say that Clinton would have been worse. That's what my post was addressing.

So, What do you disagree with? Do you disagree that Trump is dishonest or self-interested?

As far as emails: it's a fact that Clinton didn't delete them. She didn't even tell people to delete them. They were set to be deleted as a matter of course. And it wasn't even anything out of the ordinary!

The same can be said about Benghazi. Why do you think that this was such a bad thing and how do you think Clinton caused it? There have been tons of embassy raids and deaths and we don't hear a peep about them. Why do you think that is? Could it be because this was a manufactured outrage? Furthermore it was the Republicans that denied greater funding to the embassy! Yes it was a tragedy, but **** happens. It was not solely Clinton's fault, if it was her fault at all.
 

MohammadPali

Active Member
Benghazi, unfortunately half a dozen americans died, they spent more money trying to figure out dirt on hillary clinton. Which is fine by me, she messed up.

The iraq war, wasn't investigated, and it was a even bigger lie than benghazi, and thousands of americans died, and are still dying from from self inflicted suicides. Yet not a single inquiry as to how this iraq war even started. It was based on WMDS am I right ? Where the hell are the WMDS ?
 

Falvlun

Earthbending Lemur
Premium Member
Benghazi, unfortunately half a dozen americans died, they spent more money trying to figure out dirt on hillary clinton. Which is fine by me, she messed up.

The iraq war, wasn't investigated, and it was a even bigger lie than benghazi, and thousands of americans died, and are still dying from from self inflicted suicides. Yet not a single inquiry as to how this iraq war even started. It was based on WMDS am I right ? Where the hell are the WMDS ?
Or the 22,000,000 missing emails from the W administration. Wonder why we never hear about those?
 

Mindmaster

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
I don't need a hand out. I just want my government to actually work on resolving our debt issues, stop special interests groups from participating in our daily lives, better education for everyone, LOWER THE DAMN COLLEGE TUITION !!, My god, why the hell does it cost so much to go to school ? Why do they need 25 thousand dollars to go to college a year ! . Why the hell do books cost 150 dollars ? And they keep making newer editions ? I had to change majors twice, job fields twice. I'm tired of paying for a government that sucks. And everyone sucks, the democrats suck, the republicans suck.

And we have an air head in office, who just spoke to the president of the US virgin islands, hes a moron.

Your worries basically tell me your are a wet behind the ears twenty something, and while those concerns are valid but only in a small context. School costs so much because of free government money... no bones about it. My mother and father put her through a masters program with their pocket money and neither of them were making jack. No loans..

Government money injected into _ANYTHING_ raises the prices of anything related. Airhead? Pfft, the dude is the leader of the free world and beat out 20 of "the best" to get there. No one has more right to that seat than him, no one.
 

tytlyf

Not Religious
According to the GOP, Clinton would have been Obama's 3rd term. So yes, more jobs, higher stock market, etc. Trump is just taking credit for things Obama did. And what Clinton would have continued.
 

Falvlun

Earthbending Lemur
Premium Member
According to the GOP, Clinton would have been Obama's 3rd term. So yes, more jobs, higher stock market, etc. Trump is just taking credit for things Obama did. And what Clinton would have continued.
I think Clinton would have had some serious obstructionist issues, even more so than Obama if it can be imagained. As such, I doubt she'd have had many legislative victories. However, she wouldn't have been undermining American security or status. She would have competently discharged her duties. Chelsea wouldn't have an office in the White House. She would have her assets in a blind trust. And She would know what the heck she was talking about when she spoke.
 

sayak83

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
(45.9% is percentage of votes cast for Donald Trump in the 2016 Presidential election.)

This is an invitation to all Trump voters to step forward and tell us how you feel about Trump and his presidency.

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I think they would be very satisfied with what Trump is doing and unsatisfied by House and Senate Republicans trying to block him. The agenda many of them want is
1)Isolationism and withdrawal of US from UN and all international commitments. Then implementation of unscrupulous self aggrandizing policies like that of Russia by flexing military and economic muscle.
2) Back to mercantile policies with high trade tariffs for exports and imports.
3) Closing of all legal and illegal immigration and forcing people from other nations who work here to return home.
4) Greater privileges for white Christian citizens in all aspects of society, economy and business to create a de-facto soft apartheid state. Eventual declaration of US as a nation founded on white Christian principles and amendment of constitution to reflect this.
5) Increasing the size of military and domestic and international surveillance and subversion so that autocratic client governments are formed throughout the world who act in American interests and function as soft colonies of the US.
6) Increasing the size of nuclear arsenal and restarting nuclear weapons testing.

I think what the Trump voters see is that Trump is trying to deliver on this wishlist, and so they will support him.
 

Kuzcotopia

If you can read this, you are as lucky as I am.
Take a moment to breathe, and realize that IF you are an American this might be the best eight years of your life soon enough. These improvements in the economy are going to trickle down into things you'd never expected.

You can keep your empty promises. They only think you forgot to add at the end of your last sentence was "believe me."

Will our properity lead to a financial meltdown similar to 2008? Frank-Dodd's already repealed, and the foxes are in the henhouse, over-speculating and blowing a brand new, fiscally irresponsible bubble that tr next guy can spend his presidency dealing with.

Or it could lead to the financial recession of 1987, where Reagan's 80s prosperity turned out to be at the expense of massive deficit spending.

Soon, maybe we could all be Kansas. It's a wasteland of problems where ideology trumped common sense.

https://www.economist.com/news/unit...t-tax-cutting-failed-republican-revolt-kansas

I prefer a measured, regulated economic system. . . The same mixed economy that we've had since WWII. If guys like Regan, Bush, and Trump stop messing with it every time they get a small majority, we'd be more propersous that we are now, and in a position to leave a stable economy to our children.

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Ingledsva

HEATHEN ALASKAN
Let me get this straight. You think that because Trump has never been convicted, he's just peachy.

But you think that Hilary, who also has never been convicted, should be convicted for her husband's actions.o_O Holy double standard, batman.

If conviction is your standard, then why do you think Hilary is still guilty? Why do you think she should pay for someone else's sins? What is this, Genesis?

I don't think Clinton was a perfect person. But I do not think there is any actual evidence that she is "a morally corrupt piece of garbage". On the other hand, such a case could be made for Trump, with actual facts, like stiffing contractors, like walking in on teenage girls dressing, like using his charitable foundation to buy paintings of himself, like refusing to pay for medical treatment of his nephew's sick baby.

And don't forget he is on tape talking about his molesting women, - and they still voted for him. :confused:

Apparently he has a couple of women trying to bring suits against him right now.

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Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
(45.9% is percentage of votes cast for Donald Trump in the 2016 Presidential election.)

This is an invitation to all Trump voters to step forward and tell us how you feel about Trump and his presidency.

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He's doing great. He's actually proactively making attemps at fulfilling promises he made. More than can be said for other presidents.
 
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