If you were God, what would you do different?

For one, I would speak clearly to and guide people that seek me.

I'd leave people with free will... But they would at least have knowledge of what they're doing...there would be no blindness and confusion.

My book , unlike the Bible, wouldn't contradict itself and be full of verses that say the exact opposite of what other versus say.

I wouldn't speak in Parables, hyperbole, and symbolic language that people don't understand and misinterpret like crazy.

There would be no atheists, cuz I would actually show people I love and care about them by giving them some clear instructions, and not leave them feeling like I'm not there.

I would tell people which politicians to vote for...

Would console the suffering who cry out to me , and heal the sick who pray for healing.

I'd give everyone a healthy sexuality and healthy urges

There's a lot of things I would do differently...those are just a few. What would you do?

Do you think you could do better than God if you had all power?

Do you think you could write better Scriptures?

I guess I would have made it crystal clear without an iota of doubt that I exist and that these are the tenets everyone needs to follow, that all the other religions are wrong.

EtuMalku said:

I guess I would have made it crystal clear without an iota of doubt that I exist and that these are the tenets everyone needs to follow, that all the other religions are wrong.

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Amen! I wish God would learn a few lessons from you...

PopeADope said:

For one, I would speak clearly to and guide people that seek me.

I'd leave people with free will... But they would at least have knowledge of what they're doing...there would be no blindness and confusion.

My book , unlike the Bible, wouldn't contradict itself and be full of verses that say the exact opposite of what other versus say.

I wouldn't speak in Parables, hyperbole, and symbolic language that people don't understand and misinterpret like crazy.

There would be no atheists, cuz I would actually show people I love and care about them by giving them some clear instructions, and not leave them feeling like I'm not there.

I would tell people which politicians to vote for...

Would console the suffering who cry out to me , and heal the sick who pray for healing.

I'd give everyone a healthy sexuality and healthy urges

There's a lot of things I would do differently...those are just a few. What would you do?

Do you think you could do better than God if you had all power?

Do you think you could write better Scriptures?

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I am basing my answer on the basis of: I am a human who has been giving the power of God. Because I am human. I would mess this up. And plus personally I do not want that power.

If the basis is: God has passed down godliness to me, therefore I am now God through and through. I would say no anyways. Just because I do not want that responsibility.

Some people interpret scripture and say that Babylon is code for Rome and that the whore of Babylon is the Catholic Church...

In order to not leave people confused, Id just call Rome Rome and not Babylon.

Instead of describing the Beast as a leopard with seven heads, Id just say "it's the Pope"!

PopeADope said:

For one, I would speak clearly to and guide people that seek me.

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Both of them?

I'd leave people with free will... But they would at least have knowledge of what they're doing...there would be no blindness and confusion.

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In other words, they'd have no choice. Hmmm. If I recall correctly there's a name for this.

My book , unlike the Bible, wouldn't contradict itself and be full of verses that say the exact opposite of what other versus say.

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You do realize don't you that this would likely be the downfall of RF. Nice going. NOT!

I wouldn't speak in Parables, hyperbole, and symbolic language that people don't understand and misinterpret like crazy.

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We know. You'd just speak in pig latin, baby talk, and RopePopeaDope.

There would be no atheists, cuz I would actually show people I love and care about them by giving them some clear instructions, and not leave them feeling like I'm not there.

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As if atheists need your love and care, and a feeling you're there. Get with the program, atheists aren't looking for anything from any god.

I would tell people which politicians to vote for...

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And they should care who you believe they should vote for because . . . . . . . . . . . ?

Would console the suffering who cry out to me , and heal the sick who pray for healing.

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Hey, how about this: Don't give anyone any reason to cry out to you.
And I also note you wouldn't be healing the sick unless they pray to you. Nothing different from the current state of affairs, is it. Same ol', same ol'. Kiss up to me and maybe I'll do you a favor. Sheesh! You gods are all alike.

I'd give everyone a healthy sexuality and healthy urges

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Even the lesbians, gays, bisexuals, and transsexuals? Yeah, I bet. And I can just imagine your "sexuality and healthy urges": the missionary position once a month, under the covers, and with the lights off.

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If I were god, I'd run!

Skwim said:

Both of them?




Even the lesbians, gays, bisexuals, and transsexuals? Yeah, I bet. And I can just imagine your "sexuality and healthy urges": the missionary position once a month, under the covers, and with the lights off.

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I was thinking more on the lines that people wouldn't be inclined towards pedophilia or rape.... They wouldn't have those attractions to want to harm children

I would strike Donald Trump dead!!

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Hey, how about this: Don't give anyone any reason to cry out to you.
And I also note you wouldn't be healing the sick unless they pray to you. Nothing different from the current state of affairs, is it. Same ol', same ol'. Kiss up to me and maybe I'll do you a favor. Sheesh! You gods are all alike.




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I'm saying if they want healing all they have to do is ask me. That's a much different State of Affairs than what goes on. A lot of people in wheelchairs ask God to let them walk again and God doesn't. I would let them walk again

PopeADope said:

Do you think you could do better than God if you had all power?

Do you think you could write better Scriptures?

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You might want to consider becoming a Mormon. They get to become gods.

Joseph Fielding Smith Jr., Doctrines of Salvation, Vol.1, p.97 - p.98:

ALL EXALTED MEN BECOME GODS. To believe that Adam is a god should not be strange to any person who accepts the Bible. When Jesus was accused of blasphemy because he claimed to be the Son of God, he answered the Jews: "Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods? If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken; Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?"

I mean if you're interested in Godhood.

Lyndon said:

I would strike Donald Trump dead!!

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I'd mate him with Hillary and create a new class of demon.

Nakosis said:

You might want to consider becoming a Mormon. They get to become gods.

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You know, that's really not a very accurate statement. First off, every human being who has ever lived has the potential of attaining godhood -- not just Mormons. Secondly, it's not exactly this automatic thing. C.S. Lewis, who was obviously not a Mormon, understood the concept very well. He said:

"The command Be ye perfect is not idealistic gas. Nor is it a command to do the impossible. He is going to make us into creatures that can obey that command. He said (in the Bible) that we were 'gods' and He is going to make good His words. If we let Him – for we can prevent Him, if we choose – He will make the feeblest and filthiest of us into a god or goddess, dazzling, radiant, immortal creature, pulsating all through with such energy and joy and wisdom and love as we cannot now imagine, a bright stainless mirror which reflects back to God perfectly (though, of course, on a smaller scale) His own boundless power and delight and goodness. The process will be long and in parts very painful; but that is what we are in for. Nothing less. He meant what He said." (Mere Christianity; pages 205-206)

Lyndon said:

I would strike Donald Trump dead!!

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If you were god, why wouldn't you just give him a change of heart?

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Some people interpret scripture and say that Babylon is code for Rome and that the whore of Babylon is the Catholic Church...

In order to not leave people confused, Id just call Rome Rome and not Babylon.

Instead of describing the Beast as a leopard with seven heads, Id just say "it's the Pope"!

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No Babylon is Babel. It is own place. Although it could also be indicative of any place offering salvation not through Christ. This was what the tower of babel was made for, to reach heaven without God, but on mans terms alone. Which is why God confused their tongues (divided them up into seperate languages) and cast them out. Anyways,

Although I have rolled around the thought if the Catholic Church being the whore of babylon mentioned in revelations. I say this with no certainity as it is just a personal theory.

Revelations 17

17 And there came one of the seven angels which had the seven vials, and talked with me, saying unto me, Come hither; I will shew unto thee the judgment of the great whore that sitteth upon many waters:

2 With whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication, and the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication.

3 So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.

4 And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:

5 And upon her forehead was a name written, Mystery, Babylon The Great, The Mother Of Harlots And Abominations Of The Earth.

6 And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration.

7 And the angel said unto me, Wherefore didst thou marvel? I will tell thee the mystery of the woman, and of the beast that carrieth her, which hath the seven heads and ten horns.

8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.

9 And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth.

10 And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space.

11 And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.

12 And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.

13 These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.

14 These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful.

15 And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.

16 And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire.

17 For God hath put in their hearts to fulfil his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled.

18 And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth.

Take into account the 7 churches of the apocalypse here.

Seven churches of Asia - Wikipedia

One could say that the seven heads of the beast are representative of the seven churches of apocalypse. The 7 churches is misleading though because what means is 7 schools of thought about christianity. Jesus only approved of 2 of the schools of thought for churches and that is the church of Smyrna and the church of Philadelphia. There other 5 make up the vast majority of protestant churches which of course all split from Catholicism. So a case can be made for the Whore of Bablyon to actually be the Catholic Church.

David1967 said:

If you were god, why wouldn't you just give him a change of heart?

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Because in God's opinion he deserves to die!!

Lyndon said:

I would strike Donald Trump dead!!

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You are depleting the supply of dead horses.

as far as sex goes and creating sex, I would leave that totally to the individual to create their own sexuality starting from scratch. as God i wouldn't want to create something too potent or disloyal or commercial.

in other words make your own sexies, and by the way here's a list of potential miseries to avoid.

PopeADope said:

For one, I would speak clearly to and guide people that seek me.

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He does. He just isn't heard clearly to those who want to twist his words and teach people what is not true.

PopeADope said:

I'd leave people with free will... But they would at least have knowledge of what they're doing...there would be no blindness and confusion.

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The knowledge is all there in the Bible, and those whom he has invited "into his tent" understand everything without blindness or confusion. (Psalm 15) If there is blindness or confusion, then people are either not living up to his requirements but pretending to.....or don't want to be told what to do.

PopeADope said:

My book , unlike the Bible, wouldn't contradict itself and be full of verses that say the exact opposite of what other versus say.

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Where are these contradictions that I keep hearing about? Are they earth shattering? Will people die because of them? Are they huge on the Richter scale?
Can you please share what these so called contradictions are.....? I am sure they are nothing earth shattering.

PopeADope said:

I wouldn't speak in Parables, hyperbole, and symbolic language that people don't understand and misinterpret like crazy.

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When Jesus gave parables, it was to people who understood everything he said.....he often used agricultural illustrations because he was addressing people in an agricultural setting.....it was simple and not difficult for them to get the message. The misinterpretation comes from those who are lacking holy spirit ,which Jesus said would 'guide his disciples into all truth'.

PopeADope said:

There would be no atheists, cuz I would actually show people I love and care about them by giving them some clear instructions, and not leave them feeling like I'm not there.

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Free will allows people to make their own choices according to what is in their own hearts. The instructions in the Bible are clear, but humans will always try to find loopholes in order to carry out their own will and not God's. I can give you many examples.....

PopeADope said:

I would tell people which politicians to vote for...

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Jesus told us to be "no part of the world" because of who is controlling it. (1 John 5:19) If you put those politicians into office, then you share responsibility before God for what they do. (John 15:18-21) Jesus was non political even though the Roman Empire was oppressing his own people. We are to obey their laws, but not when they contravene God's laws.

PopeADope said:

Would console the suffering who cry out to me , and heal the sick who pray for healing.

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He does that too by allowing them to see into the future to a "new earth" where all inhabitants will be made well and can live without fear, without sickness and suffering.....and God will even conquer death in two ways....he will prevent it from happening again and he will resurrect those who have lost their lives in this world, returning them to their families as Jesus did in the first century. (Revelation 21:2-4 John 5:28-29) )

PopeADope said:

I'd give everyone a healthy sexuality and healthy urges

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That goes with undoing Adam's sin and returning us to the same physical and mental perfection that the first humans once enjoyed. God has promised to do this, but not until he has tested humanity as to fitness to become citizens of his Kingdom first....these are the "sheep" who survive the end of this wicked system of things. The "goats" will disappear.

PopeADope said:

There's a lot of things I would do differently...those are just a few. What would you do?

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Since I understand the big picture.....there is nothing I would do differently......God is not stupid....he is not cruel and he is not hiding from anyone who genuinely wants to find him....but it will be on his terms, not our own. If we are of the opinion that we could do better than him, then we have already lost him....suggesting that he isn't Almighty at all......but you are.

PopeADope said:

Do you think you could do better than God if you had all power?

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Never. He sees what short sighted humans cannot. If we have no faith in his promises or his ability to handle the rebellion in Eden in the best way, for the best outcome, then why would he even bother with us?

PopeADope said:

Do you think you could write better Scriptures?

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NO! The scriptures give us a written record of God's dealings with a nation that was exclusively his. They alone had his laws and they alone agreed to worship Jehovah on his terms. The record shows what happened when this nation obeyed...and what happened when they didn't. It teaches us what God requires of us individually and collectively as his worshippers. And he tells us that he a rewarder of those who maintain his standards.

In the sacrificial laws, God demonstrated the need for atonement by commanding the Jews to sacrifice specific animals, revealing that the sacredness of blood (the symbol of life itself) is the only thing that can atone for sin. The law was perfect, but the people to whom it was given, were not, illustrating that a permanent sacrifice was required to settle the issue once and for all. That situation was addressed with the death of Jesus Christ. No further sacrifices were needed.......and now we are waiting for him to clean up the earth and bring his rulership to those he died for. I believe it is close.

PopeADope said:

Some people interpret scripture and say that Babylon is code for Rome and that the whore of Babylon is the Catholic Church...

In order to not leave people confused, Id just call Rome Rome and not Babylon.

Instead of describing the Beast as a leopard with seven heads, Id just say "it's the Pope"!

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Rome is not Babylon. The Catholic Church is the mother of Christendom......which is the most reprehensible part of Babylon the great, (the devil's world empire of false worship) but she is by no means the only part. Original Babylon is where all false beliefs originated.....the beliefs held in common by all the world's major religions....immortality of the soul, multiplicities or trinities of gods, a hell of eternal punishment and a host of other beliefs. None of these are taught in scripture and those who hold to them will be among the "goats" whom Jesus will dispatch at the judgment.

"When the Son of man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, then he will sit down on his glorious throne. 32 All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate people one from another, just as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. 33 And he will put the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on his left.
34 “Then the King will say to those on his right: ‘Come, you who have been blessed by my Father, inherit the Kingdom prepared for you from the founding of the world.........“Then he will say to those on his left: ‘Go away from me, you who have been cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the Devil and his angels.....These will depart into everlasting cutting-off, but the righteous ones into everlasting life.” (Matthew 25:31-46)

Deeje said:

He does. He just isn't heard clearly to those who want to twist his words and teach people what is not true.



The knowledge is all there in the Bible, and those whom he has invited "into his tent" understand everything without blindness or confusion. (Psalm 15) If there is blindness or confusion, then people are either not living up to his requirements but pretending to.....or don't want to be told what to do.



Where are these contradictions that I keep hearing about? Are they earth shattering? Will people die because of them? Are they huge on the Richter scale?
Can you please share what these so called contradictions are.....? I am sure they are nothing earth shattering.



When Jesus gave parables, it was to people who understood everything he said.....he often used agricultural illustrations because he was addressing people in an agricultural setting.....it was simple and not difficult for them to get the message. The misinterpretation comes from those who are lacking holy spirit ,which Jesus said would 'guide his disciples into all truth'.



Free will allows people to make their own choices according to what is in their own hearts. The instructions in the Bible are clear, but humans will always try to find loopholes in order to carry out their own will and not God's. I can give you many examples.....



Jesus told us to be "no part of the world" because of who is controlling it. (1 John 5:19) If you put those politicians into office, then you share responsibility before God for what they do. (John 15:18-21) Jesus was non political even though the Roman Empire was oppressing his own people. We are to obey their laws, but not when they contravene God's laws.



He does that too by allowing them to see into the future to a "new earth" where all inhabitants will be made well and can live without fear, without sickness and suffering.....and God will even conquer death in two ways....he will prevent it from happening again and he will resurrect those who have lost their lives in this world, returning them to their families as Jesus did in the first century. (Revelation 21:2-4 John 5:28-29) )



That goes with undoing Adam's sin and returning us to the same physical and mental perfection that the first humans once enjoyed. God has promised to do this, but not until he has tested humanity as to fitness to become citizens of his Kingdom first....these are the "sheep" who survive the end of this wicked system of things. The "goats" will disappear.



Since I understand the big picture.....there is nothing I would do differently......God is not stupid....he is not cruel and he is not hiding from anyone who genuinely wants to find him....but it will be on his terms, not our own. If we are of the opinion that we could do better than him, then we have already lost him....suggesting that he isn't Almighty at all......but you are.



Never. He sees what short sighted humans cannot. If we have no faith in his promises or his ability to handle the rebellion in Eden in the best way, for the best outcome, then why would he even bother with us?



NO! The scriptures give us a written record of God's dealings with a nation that was exclusively his. They alone had his laws and they alone agreed to worship Jehovah on his terms. The record shows what happened when this nation obeyed...and what happened when they didn't. It teaches us what God requires of us individually and collectively as his worshippers. And he tells us that he a rewarder of those who maintain his standards.

In the sacrificial laws, God demonstrated the need for atonement by commanding the Jews to sacrifice specific animals, revealing that the sacredness of blood (the symbol of life itself) is the only thing that can atone for sin. The law was perfect, but the people to whom it was given, were not, illustrating that a permanent sacrifice was required to settle the issue once and for all. That situation was addressed with the death of Jesus Christ. No further sacrifices were needed.......and now we are waiting for him to clean up the earth and bring his rulership to those he died for. I believe it is close.



Rome is not Babylon. The Catholic Church is the mother of Christendom......which is the most reprehensible part of Babylon the great, (the devil's world empire of false worship) but she is by no means the only part. Original Babylon is where all false beliefs originated.....the beliefs held in common by all the world's major religions....immortality of the soul, multiplicities or trinities of gods, a hell of eternal punishment and a host of other beliefs. None of these are taught in scripture and those who hold to them will be among the "goats" whom Jesus will dispatch at the judgment.

"When the Son of man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, then he will sit down on his glorious throne. 32 All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate people one from another, just as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. 33 And he will put the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on his left.
34 “Then the King will say to those on his right: ‘Come, you who have been blessed by my Father, inherit the Kingdom prepared for you from the founding of the world.........“Then he will say to those on his left: ‘Go away from me, you who have been cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the Devil and his angels.....These will depart into everlasting cutting-off, but the righteous ones into everlasting life.” (Matthew 25:31-46)

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Regarding contradictions in the Bible, God said Thou shalt not kill and then God himself killed a bunch of people and ordered people to be killed for silly things like picking up sticks on Sabbath, and ordered people to annihilate entire cities killing women and children and babies.

There are plenty of other contradictions... I don't feel like sifting through them
https://ffrf.org/legacy/books/lfif/?t=contra

I've seen and heard a lot of debates between Protestants, Catholics, and Christians of various denominations and each of them have scripture that supports conflicting beliefs.

I've seen scriptures that clearly support the idea that Jesus was divine, and other scripture verses that clearly support that he was not divine.

Jesus even objected to somebody calling him a good teacher... As if he was no good. It makes no sense