Yohanan ben Yaaqov
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Sacrifices are only allowed to be performed at the specific location chosen by God. Once the Temple was built, there is no other location sacrifices are allowed. Without a Temple sacrifices are completely forbidden.
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And to you.
You set out principles of reason and decency. Bravo!
(I'm not clear on why a god is necessary for this, but that's a detail.)
Magus
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That's what happens when you read the Talmud and not the Torah, there never was a specific location , Tabernacle means 'booth' that is a temporary or mobile shelter.
Genesis 33:17
And Jacob journeyed to Succoth, and built him an house, and made booths (Tabernacles )
Feast of the Tabernacle ', in this context they are referring to the sweet
sap of the Cedar tree along withunleavened bread barley cakes.
Leviticus 23:34
seventh month shall be the feast of tabernacle
Genesis 8:4
And theark (Tabernacle) rested on the seventh month, on the seventeenth day of the month, upon the mountains of Ararat הֹר הָהָֽר > Ωρὄρος > אֲרָרָט > Αραρατ > Ararat ' ( see Numbers 33:37 )
Exodus 26:30
Set up the tabernacle according to the plan shown you on the mountain.
The Tabernacle was mobile... pitched in Zalmonah.. pitched in Punon.. pitched in Oboth
and 'pitched is ' חָנָה see Numbers 1:15 'the tabernacle is to be pitched'
Genesis 33:17
And Jacob journeyed to Succoth, and built him an house, and made booths (Tabernacles )
Feast of the Tabernacle ', in this context they are referring to the sweet
sap of the Cedar tree along with
Leviticus 23:34
seventh month shall be the feast of tabernacle
Genesis 8:4
And the
Exodus 26:30
Set up the tabernacle according to the plan shown you on the mountain.
The Tabernacle was mobile... pitched in Zalmonah.. pitched in Punon.. pitched in Oboth
and 'pitched is ' חָנָה see Numbers 1:15 'the tabernacle is to be pitched'
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Magus
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The Hebrew word סֻכָּה ( cukkah ) is related to the Latin word 'Sucus' meaning Sap and between August and October ( תִּשְׁרֵי ) , the cones of the cedar trees break up releasing it's seed .
the golden pot that had manna ( Heb 9:6)
Exodus 16:31
- Manna: and it was like coriander seed, white; and the taste of it was like wafers made with honey.
Psalm 104:16
The trees of the LORD are full of sap; the cedars of Lebanon which he hath planted;
Sng 4:11
Thy lips, O my spouse, drop as the honeycomb: honey and milk are under thy tongue; and the smell of thy garments is like the smell of Lebanon.
Numbers 11:7
The manna was as coriander seed, and the colour thereof as the colour of bdellium.
Sng 5:10
My beloved is white and red
the golden pot that had manna ( Heb 9:6)
Exodus 16:31
- Manna: and it was like coriander seed, white; and the taste of it was like wafers made with honey.
Psalm 104:16
The trees of the LORD are full of sap; the cedars of Lebanon which he hath planted;
Sng 4:11
Thy lips, O my spouse, drop as the honeycomb: honey and milk are under thy tongue; and the smell of thy garments is like the smell of Lebanon.
Numbers 11:7
The manna was as coriander seed, and the colour thereof as the colour of bdellium.
Sng 5:10
My beloved is white and red
Yohanan ben Yaaqov
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@Magus Please tell me which University you received your degrees in the languages you seem to think you know so much about. Because being a retired Papyrologist with Bachelor's Degrees or higher in 11 different ancient languages, the only thing I can discern from any of your posts is that either you haven't been taking your meds, or you have been taking too many of the illegal kind. And if it's the latter, please tell me where I can get some because they must be pretty good.
Magus
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Argumentum Ad-hominem
So you claim to be smart and yet know nothing and yet you have a 'orthodox Jewish ego' who believe we all descend from a 930 year old man called Adam , so who are you to insult my intellect.
Why don't you simply state the areas of study you've undertaken and the qualifications you've received as a result?
That's what you were asked, after all.
Magus
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Everything i do is independent and i have done various courses on Ancient language with the Open University and i am mentored by various Jews to help me with Hebrew.
Sites i use.
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Hebrew, Greek and Latin share an alphabet , if that is true, they aught to be cognates between these languages , no one as ever done that before, cos Hebrew is chained down by theologians. I challenged myself to find a cognate with every word in Genesis 1.
בְּרֵאשִׁית πρῶτος
אֱלֹהִים ἑρμᾷ ἤλιος ὄλυμπος
בָּרָא φέρω φορά *Pere-
שָׁמַיִם > שְׁמַיִן (Shamayin) < σημεῖον ( Shmeion )
* cognate with the Japanese word * Zen
אָֽרֶץ ἔρα
Does בַּיִת (Beth) have a cognate in Latin and Greek ?
Ϝοἶκος from Linear B
Wo-i-ko > Bo-iko > Bo-eth
Daughter , from Linear B ' Tu-Ka-Te
Tukate > Thugater (Greek) > Daughter ( English )
Tukate > Tbkate > Tbkte > Tbhte > Bhte > Bht > Bt ( בַּת ) ( Hebrew)
Tukate > Tfgate > Tfgda >fgdia > Filia ( Latin )
Will the Papyrologist challenge me or coward away ?
Tumah
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Hebrew and Greek do not share an alphabet. Both the Greek and Paleo-Hebrew alphabet are derived from the Phoenician alphabet. However, there are still differences between them, just as there are differences between the Hebrew alphabet and Arabic alphabet.
No. Cognates come from language, not from alphabet. Language =/= alphabet.
Source that secular academics do not study Hebrew?
Magus
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I believe they don't care about accuracy or truths, they all have a religious-political ego.
I am currently working on Genesis 14 , studying it for about month now, It as to be the most textually corrupt part of the Torah.
Gen 10:3 ' The Four '
Gen 10:19 ' The Five '
Some words are similar, Thargal/Thorgama, Xodollogomor/Gamer Riphath / Amraphal
How about you figure it out yourself, if you so expert at it.
Tumah
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So the source for your statement is your belief. You know that you can't be wrong so you attribute the lack of agreement on the part of secular linguists with actual degrees in this area, to religious political ego.
I don't care.
Well you see, that's the thing: there is nothing to figure out. Your premise that all Hebrew and Greek words are cognates is faulty from the get-go. That's what I've been telling you all along. I know you haven't acknowledged that, since rather than refute my arguments, you just bombard me with more of your horrendous creations. But that is the point I've been trying to get across to you.
I mean, let's be honest here. You don't seem to be that familiar with Greek. You definitely can't read Hebrew or understand how it works, never mind Aramaic. Your knowledge of pagan mythology appears to be limited. Sometimes your knowledge of the chapter you're quoting from appears to be limited. Frankly, I'm not really sure how you convinced yourself that you're the right man for the job you've created.
Magus
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Is your Ego getting in the way ? Is it because you believe that 'God' created the Hebrew Language therefore it is theologically impossible for that language to have cognates in other languages?
Tumah
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No. Hebrew has many cognates across the Afro-Asiatic family of languages. The problem is that you refuse to recognize that real linguists have already established language families. Greek is simply not one of those languages. Your refusal to accept that is based on ignorance of Hebrew and Greek.
Thank you.
When we previously spoke, I suggested it might not hurt to enquire why your conclusions differ from those who have high competence in these languages.
Did you check it out? If so, what did you conclude?
Magus
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They have high competence in theology , they believe the Earth is 6000 years old, we descend from a 930 year old Ruddy-Man called Adam , if they believe that they
are incompetent.
Tumah
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My mistake. Your refusal to accept that is based on a lone opinion's controversial study.
Magus
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My mistake, your refusal to believe that the Earth is 4.5 billion years old and Evolution is a scientific fact, We do not descend from the incestuous relations
of the addams family .
Tumah
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Presumably the "they" here are "Jews". So allow me to correct you:
There is a wide range of opinions on the age of the universe in Jewish sources. From 15.34 billion all the way to 5,778.
Adam is not described as being red in any Jewish text.
Esau and David who are described as being red did not live to 930.
You're lack of knowledge of Hebrew makes a good parallel with your lack of knowledge of Jewish theology it seems.
Tumah
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So you do equate my refusal to accept accepted scientific theory with your refusal to accept accepted linguistic theory.
It's a step forward.